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JBaLLEN66
07/01/20 12:32:13 PM
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Last time I checked, Germany sucker punched Europe and still lost WW2...Today, France is military the strongest Western European power with actual global projection due to its former empire status

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EnragedSlith
07/01/20 12:33:47 PM
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Because they told the US to fuck off when we were building a coalition to invade Iraq.

Which is silly when we exist solely due to their intervention. We should have a national holiday honoring the French, honestly

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treewojima
07/01/20 12:40:36 PM
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EnragedSlith posted...
Because they told the US to fuck off when we were building a coalition to invade Iraq.

Which is silly when we exist solely due to their intervention. We should have a national holiday honoring the French, honestly

That's a big part of it, but people were making fun of the French long before that.

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pogo_rabid
07/01/20 12:42:35 PM
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The french who supported the US revolution had their heads cut off. We don't owe anything to the current french.

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BignutzisBack
07/01/20 12:42:42 PM
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I have always grown up thinking that France was known for surrendering and being chickens in general. After looking into it I don't understand why but that's what the media I consumed growing up told me

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CommonJoe
07/01/20 12:44:52 PM
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Because theyre dicks and deserve to be mocked.

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Thompson
07/01/20 12:46:20 PM
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CommonJoe posted...
Because theyre dicks and deserve to be mocked.
Sounds like that could apply to the US as well.

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UnholyMudcrab
07/01/20 12:47:42 PM
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Because Americans in general have a laughable knowledge of history
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TopKekBro
07/01/20 12:47:43 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
Last time I checked, Germany sucker punched Europe and still lost WW2...Today, France is military the strongest Western European power with actual global projection due to its former empire status

Because its afraid of Russia and China and India and those are basically third world countries with big armies
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CommonJoe
07/01/20 12:49:26 PM
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Thompson posted...
Sounds like that could apply to the US as well.

In general the stereotype that Americans are dumb doesnt hold true the more of them you meet.

Ive never met a French person who wasn't a gigantic asshole, and Ive met plenty.

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MarqueeSeries
07/01/20 12:49:52 PM
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France gets nothing but respect for me. They invented the guillotine and used it to great effect in their revolution, and that's badass
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JBaLLEN66
07/01/20 12:50:13 PM
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TopKekBro posted...
Because its afraid of Russia and China and India and those are basically third world countries with big armies

france has more projection than all three of those countries though

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Questionmarktarius
07/01/20 12:50:36 PM
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EnragedSlith posted...
Which is silly when we exist solely due to their intervention. We should have a national holiday honoring the French, honestly
There's a giant green French lady standing in the New York harbor, though.
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pogo_rabid
07/01/20 12:51:48 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
There's a giant green French lady standing in the New York harbor, though.
Crediting the current french for the US revolution is like crediting the current republicans for freeing the slaves.

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masterpug53
07/01/20 12:52:14 PM
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Crono99 posted...
Probably because of the speed at which Germany managed to occupy them during WW2

It's pretty much this, paired with the Maginot Line entering the zeitgeist as one of the most colossal miscalculations in modern warfare (even though in reality it wasn't quite so legendarily ineffective as that).

Kinda funny how the building of grand walls and their ultimate inability to solve their intended problems ends up being a major black mark on a country's global reputation, eh?

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dj1200
07/01/20 12:53:02 PM
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CommonJoe posted...
In general the stereotype that Americans are dumb doesnt hold true the more of them you meet.

Ive never met a French person who wasn't a gigantic asshole, and Ive met plenty.

I have met several people and they weren't assholes.

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UnholyMudcrab
07/01/20 12:54:11 PM
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The Maginot Line did exactly what it was supposed to - it forced the Germans to go through Belgium again. The Germans just went through Belgium in an unexpected place.
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Questionmarktarius
07/01/20 12:56:10 PM
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France lost a hell of a lot of its badassery when Andre the Giant died.
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GreenMagicite
07/01/20 2:40:14 PM
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A lot of the wars in Asia the US ended up involved in was because of the French colonial failings. I imagine that had a lot to do with the public attitude towards them.

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GodIsImaginary
07/01/20 2:42:40 PM
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Crono99 posted...
Probably because of the speed at which Germany managed to occupy them during WW2

And perhaps part of it is frustration at De Gaulle who took credit for liberating France from the Nazis when it was the allies who did the work for him

France absolutely deserves to be mocked for losing in 1940 to Germany, more than half their battle units still hadn't seen battle and France surrendered because Germany was threatening to bomb Paris, and France had lost the air battle. France should've gotten British planes to land in French airfields and threatened to bomb Berlin, but they wimped out.
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The23rdMagus
07/01/20 2:42:54 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
The french who supported the US revolution had their heads cut off. We don't owe anything to the current french.
The French who supported the French Revolution were also guillotined.

The French military may have folded during WW2 but its people didn't. The Resistance put up a helluva fight, to say nothing of the Foreign Legion.

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DirkDiggles
07/01/20 2:45:05 PM
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Anybody interested in an old WW2 French rifle? Never fired and dropped once.

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XxKrazyChaosxX
07/01/20 2:45:33 PM
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They're lovers, not fighters.

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UnfairRepresent
07/01/20 2:46:41 PM
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Because they lost to Germany twice

And had to surrender in big world wars.

That's where the whole reptuation comes from. Historically France has been a pretty big military powerhouse. But comedy sterotypes aren't based on reality, they're based on fun.

Being blond doesn't mean you're stupid either TC
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Tyranthraxus
07/01/20 2:49:54 PM
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France usually wins in the end. Yeah they get shit on a lot for basically being the first people to get invaded and occupied any time a war breaks out in Europe but when all the dust settles France invariably ends up kicking everyone out. Whether it's England, The Ottomans, or Germany.

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BettyWhite
07/01/20 2:50:08 PM
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I've met one French person and I always get this longing feeling for her. She had a week left in the states and we had an amazing time together.

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Ubergeneral3
07/01/20 3:22:30 PM
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france is in the middle of a redemption arc. They had problems with terriorists in Mali, and went and kicked their asses. No help needed from a colilition and no prolonged iraq war.

Now they are constantly protesting in paris. First the gave their facist "trump" canidate the boot, voting in Macron. And now they are giving him the boot because he's a shitty neoliberal.

Soon france will be socalist and not fight any wars.

England on the other hand is more than a little confused. They voted for brexit and then elected Boris Johnson. Lets see if you can figure out what the real shithole country is

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Questionmarktarius
07/01/20 3:24:37 PM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
Soon france will be socalist and not fight any wars.
French socialism is in a death spiral so long as anyone with any measurable wealth keeps leaving.

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The23rdMagus
07/01/20 3:26:43 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
French socialism is in a death spiral so long as anyone with any measurable wealth keeps leaving.

I'm not even sure I needed "french" in that sentence.
Sounds a lot like American wealth in foreign shell companies and bank accounts used as "tax shelters" to avoid paying one's fair share.

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Questionmarktarius
07/01/20 3:27:29 PM
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The23rdMagus posted...
Sounds a lot like American wealth in foreign shell companies and bank accounts used as "tax shelters" to avoid paying one's fair share.
It's easier in France - just move to Belgium.
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ScazarMeltex
07/01/20 3:29:43 PM
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GodIsImaginary posted...
France absolutely deserves to be mocked for losing in 1940 to Germany, more than half their battle units still hadn't seen battle and France surrendered because Germany was threatening to bomb Paris, and France had lost the air battle. France should've gotten British planes to land in French airfields and threatened to bomb Berlin, but they wimped out.
This is a wildly uneducated opinion.

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The23rdMagus
07/01/20 3:29:55 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
It's easier in France - just move to Belgium.
Isn't it great to not contribute to the country you live in?

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ScazarMeltex
07/01/20 3:31:13 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Because they lost to Germany twice

And had to surrender in big world wars.

That's where the whole reptuation comes from. Historically France has been a pretty big military powerhouse. But comedy sterotypes aren't based on reality, they're based on fun.

Being blond doesn't mean you're stupid either TC
Last I looked it was the Germans who surrendered in both world wars, to the French and British in the first one and to the US, British, Free French, and Russians in the second.

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UnholyMudcrab
07/01/20 3:40:35 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
Anybody interested in an old WW2 French rifle? Never fired and dropped once.

Now that you mention it, I would quite like a MAS-36
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Questionmarktarius
07/01/20 3:41:48 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Now that you mention it, I would quite like a MAS-36
I'd be happy enough with a Chauchat.
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The23rdMagus
07/01/20 3:44:40 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
I'd be happy enough with a Chauchat.
No one was happy with a Chauchat.

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Questionmarktarius
07/01/20 3:45:18 PM
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The23rdMagus posted...
No one was happy with a Chauchat.
It would make a neat wall-gun, and you know it.
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The23rdMagus
07/01/20 3:47:24 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
It would make a neat wall-gun, and you know it.
I'll admit that. That's about all it's good for. To be fair, it was one of the first modern machine guns.

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Damn_Underscore
07/01/20 3:48:00 PM
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BettyWhite posted...
I've met one French person and I always get this longing feeling for her. She had a week left in the states and we had an amazing time together.

:(

u didn't even ask for her number bro

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tigerslashII
07/01/20 3:50:47 PM
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There was the WWI French mutiny that did them no favors.

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UnholyMudcrab
07/01/20 3:52:52 PM
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The French Chauchat variants weren't really that bad, apart from the mindbogglingly awful magazine design. The American .30-06 variants were truly terrible, though.
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ScazarMeltex
07/01/20 3:59:27 PM
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tigerslashII posted...
There was the WWI French mutiny that did them no favors.
The French infantry were absolutely in the right to mutiny. They were being fed into a machine with no thought by a bunch of aristocratic officers sitting in the rear. It was so bad that even a portion of the officers at the front had to go to the high command and be like "uhhhh...no really guys, this shit is fucked up. You have to stop throwing us into a meat grinder or people are going to just go home".

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