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Blightzkrieg
06/30/20 7:21:00 PM
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ChimeraBlue
06/30/20 7:33:08 PM
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"At the time of this, Savage was between 9 and 12-years-old."

I really don't think someone should be held accountable for something they did at that age. It's terrible, and I'm obviously not excusing what happened, but to publicly share this after all this time just doesn't seem right. I get that it would have been a traumatic experience for her, but it shouldn't be used to vilify him as if he is still that 9-12 year old kid.
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Jen0125
06/30/20 7:33:48 PM
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What the fuck!


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Jen0125
06/30/20 7:36:20 PM
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ChimeraBlue posted...
"At the time of this, Savage was between 9 and 12-years-old."

I really don't think someone should be held accountable for something they did at that age. It's terrible, and I'm obviously not excusing what happened, but to publicly share this after all this time just doesn't seem right. I get that it would have been a traumatic experience for her, but it shouldn't be used to vilify him as if he is still that 9-12 year old kid.

This is bullshit too. 9-12 year olds know you aren't supposed rape or sexually assault your own siblings.

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helIy
06/30/20 7:39:13 PM
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what was wrong with the parents that they just ignored this


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Jen0125
06/30/20 7:40:38 PM
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Zangulus posted...
While Im not defending or dismissing, but most of the time when someone abuses at that age, they were abused themselves. Is that the case? I dont know and am not taking a stance.

I also find it interesting that she has been vocal for years about this, so its not really a situation of not wanting to come forward.

I dont disbelieve her though. I stand back and just watch from the sidelines.

Even if that is the case it doesn't mean you can anally rape your little sister

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ChaosAzeroth
06/30/20 7:41:23 PM
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ChimeraBlue posted...
"At the time of this, Savage was between 9 and 12-years-old."

I really don't think someone should be held accountable for something they did at that age. It's terrible, and I'm obviously not excusing what happened, but to publicly share this after all this time just doesn't seem right. I get that it would have been a traumatic experience for her, but it shouldn't be used to vilify him as if he is still that 9-12 year old kid.

Yes and no.

I was thinking that an occurrence at that age is much different than when one is older myself.

(Keep in mind what follows is of course if this is true.)

But she has every right to talk about it, and of course she's going to see him as a villain. That's natural.

It's messy and complicated, and I think the responsibility is on people engaging with this information to realize he was a literal child and not on her with her being the victim of sexual assault.

Now knowing people as a whole, weighing in his being a literal child probably won't happen so much. But we shouldn't excuse mob mentality by blaming the victim.

Of course also this hinges on it being behavior that didn't occur later in life as well. To be clear, I'm not saying it was.

I kind of wonder wtf was going on with him to do something like that. It doesn't seem like something a child would be inclined to do with no outside influence or mental issues...

Basically it's still gross behavior, but all factors should be weighed and not all crimes even if the same type are exactly the same.
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jbomb1234
06/30/20 7:46:50 PM
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If you are going to post that you should post both sides. Adam denies this happened and their mother says his sister has sever mental health challenges.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/adam-savage-mythbusters-sexual-assault-sister-allegations-1234694909/

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Mead
06/30/20 7:48:25 PM
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even referring to himself as the "raping blob"

oh

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ChaosAzeroth
06/30/20 7:50:17 PM
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jbomb1234 posted...
If you are going to post that you should post both sides. Adam denies this happened and their mother says his sister has sever mental health challenges.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/adam-savage-mythbusters-sexual-assault-sister-allegations-1234694909/

This is also possible.

It's possible the allegations are not true, it's possible this is a cover up. Only time may tell, and I sure hope it does tell in the end what the truth is. Either way.

Either way it's a sad, messy, and complicated situation. There really aren't any winners no matter how this pans out.
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helIy
06/30/20 7:50:59 PM
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jbomb1234 posted...
If you are going to post that you should post both sides. Adam denies this happened and their mother says his sister has sever mental health challenges.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/adam-savage-mythbusters-sexual-assault-sister-allegations-1234694909/
the single comment on that is gross



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ChaosAzeroth
06/30/20 7:51:48 PM
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helIy posted...
the single comment on that is gross


Yeahhh
I was going to say something about that but then decided to stick with just input on the matter at hand.

But unfortunately I saw that.
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WhiskeyDisk
06/30/20 7:54:11 PM
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I have my doubts because this is Adam...if you told me Jamie had something like this in his past, I'd be far less sceptical...

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BlackScythe0
06/30/20 8:12:58 PM
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I'm sorry I find this very hard to believe. Part of it is because I like this guy, I'll not hide that.

I know we need to believe people if it were him molesting her by touch and doing creepy acts on her I would believe it without question. But 12 is going to be around the low end of when I believe this could have happened. 12-15 I'd believe, 9-12 is hard for me to do.

At the end of the day we're never going to know. The mom claiming she is mentally ill is meaningless since it's likely if the claims were true the parents covered it up. Something that happened 50 years ago is going to be difficult to prove. This is a sensational headline which will probably not come up again if I were to wager.
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HornedLion
06/30/20 8:17:29 PM
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helIy posted...
what was wrong with the parents that they just ignored this

I doubt they knew.

P.S. PS5 > Xbox XCX or whatever

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ChimeraBlue
06/30/20 8:30:38 PM
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ChaosAzeroth posted...

Of course also this hinges on it being behavior that didn't occur later in life as well. To be clear, I'm not saying it was.

Yeah, I'm hoping it's not that. Maybe it's just a situation in their childhood that they have to work out for themselves, and not some sort of deviant sexual pattern that continued.

If it even happened at all, as Adam is denying it.
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helIy
06/30/20 8:30:59 PM
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HornedLion posted...
I doubt they knew.
she literally says they did.

HornedLion posted...
P.S. PS5 > Xbox XCX or whatever
ok? you really have the wrong person, laylow

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HornedLion
06/30/20 8:32:30 PM
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helIy posted...
she literally says they did.

Then theyre terrible fucking parents. Thats an automatic ass whoopin for that kid.

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helIy
06/30/20 8:34:06 PM
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i don't think you read either articles

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Metalsonic66
06/30/20 8:47:13 PM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
I have my doubts because this is Adam...if you told me Jamie had something like this in his past, I'd be far less sceptical...
Really? Opposite for me.

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Gaawa_chan
06/30/20 9:02:17 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...


I know we need to believe people if it were him molesting her by touch and doing creepy acts on her I would believe it without question. But 12 is going to be around the low end of when I believe this could have happened. 12-15 I'd believe, 9-12 is
... shockingly common. I know a girl who was raped by two eight year olds when she was five.

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WhiskeyDisk
06/30/20 9:03:07 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
Really? Opposite for me.

Adam seems like a fairly open dude all things considered. Jamie always struck me as the sort of fake ass anal-retentive dude that tries to project order and authority to cover for some really dark shit going on behind the scenes.

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Metalsonic66
06/30/20 9:04:19 PM
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There's definitely some dark shit going on behind that mustache at least

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helIy
06/30/20 9:06:21 PM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
Adam seems like a fairly open dude all things considered. Jamie always struck me as the sort of fake ass anal-retentive dude that tries to project order and authority to cover for some really dark shit going on behind the scenes.
jamie is a douche in general

there's videos out there of how he treats interns and assistants

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WhiskeyDisk
06/30/20 9:08:51 PM
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helIy posted...
jamie is a douche in general

there's videos out there of how he treats interns and assistants

You'll get no argument from me there. Some of those videos have definitely informed my opinions of the man.

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ChaosAzeroth
06/30/20 9:48:16 PM
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ChimeraBlue posted...
Yeah, I'm hoping it's not that. Maybe it's just a situation in their childhood that they have to work out for themselves, and not some sort of deviant sexual pattern that continued.

If it even happened at all, as Adam is denying it.

Absolutely, as I stated before the thoughts about it, they're going by the idea that it happened.

But I don't know that it did or didn't. I obviously hope it didn't, although it's a no win if the explanation given with it not being true is true.
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Blightzkrieg
07/03/20 10:56:38 AM
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Mead posted...
oh
2020 is a gift

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Nade Duck
07/03/20 11:21:36 AM
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reality kinda sucks.

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ChaosAzeroth
07/03/20 12:36:16 PM
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Nade Duck posted...
reality kinda sucks.

Kinda?
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SunWuKung420
07/03/20 12:40:54 PM
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Nade Duck posted...
reality kinda sucks.

We built it.

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Nade Duck
07/03/20 5:43:39 PM
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ChaosAzeroth posted...
Kinda?
ish

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Yellow
07/03/20 5:58:59 PM
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jbomb1234 posted...
If you are going to post that you should post both sides. Adam denies this happened and their mother says his sister has sever mental health challenges.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/adam-savage-mythbusters-sexual-assault-sister-allegations-1234694909/
Yeah right

As if his sister founded a nonprofit to helping sexual abuse victims because she "imagined Adam raped her"

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Yellow
07/03/20 6:12:03 PM
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So Adam Savage, Cryaotic, which one of my childhood heroes is going to be ruined next in 2020?

Shit, I don't think I have any more.

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Yellow
07/04/20 8:30:28 PM
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And now Reckful is dead.

I used to joke that I too just wanted to watch the world burn, but now that it's actually happening I don't really like it. Every other day something horrible happens.

I always get really depressed when an internet person kills themselves, even if I didn't follow them closely.

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Revelation34
07/04/20 8:49:05 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...

... shockingly common. I know a girl who was raped by two eight year olds when she was five.


How is your own anecdotal evidence "shockingly common"?

Yellow posted...
So Adam Savage, Cryaotic, which one of my childhood heroes is going to be ruined next in 2020?

Shit, I don't think I have any more.


Sounds like a personal problem if you automatically think something like this is true.
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Kimbos_Egg
07/04/20 8:56:13 PM
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helIy posted...
what was wrong with the parents that they just ignored this



because its not real?

his sister has massive mental issues
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