Current Events > So why has Avalanche been unable to top Just Cause 2?

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While the game is incredible and hit it out of the park in everything it set out to do, there was so much clear room for improvement, yet instead of leaps forward or even small iterative steps, the series just kinda stalled out after that. What gives?

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It was their B team that handled JC3, and I don't even know what happened with JC4. I bought 4 because someone here said it was better than 3 and now I want to strangle them.

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It's just one those moments where they made something so different, they could rest on it for awhile. It's hard to make a game that changes the Sandbox playground that much every time.

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SmidgeIsntBack posted...

It was their B team that handled JC3, and I don't even know what happened with JC4. I bought 4 because someone here said it was better than 3 and now I want to strangle them.

I couldn't get into it the first time at all. 2nd time I got into it for like 10 hours. I liked how they did progression in 3 way better than 4. I think a lot of people complained about it.

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The map in 3, as well as the jank as fuck vehicle handling and weird lack of minimap, were what put me off

also not letting you throw remote charges is some idiot shit

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Statical_Ork posted...

The map in 3, as well as the jank as fuck vehicle handling and weird lack of minimap, were what put me off

also not letting you throw remote charges is some idiot shit

But having infinite of them was fun. I get in 4 they want you to pull shit down and get more creative. But... bitch, sometimes I don't wanna be creative.

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The enemies spawning from all directions is so frustrating. How could they not fix this post-2

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Also 3 is impressive in how poorly optimized it is.

Ive still never played 4 and I recall many of the complaints boiling down to its more of the same.

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The one thing I will give 4 over 3 is that 4 didn't release with some of the worst loading times ever (which were alleviated by turning off internet).

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3 struggles to hit a solid 60 on my computer with guts newer than the game lol

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i got 3 on the ps sale a few days ago but im not really finding it as fun as all the funny gifs made it seen. from what i recall of 2, other than the cheap shit enemies with aim bots, it was hassle free and easy to tether your way across the map. in JC3 it seems every little thing you clip stops you dead. anyone know if psn does refunds?

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jc2 was so easy and fluid. all the polish and everything took a back seat to the fluidity and it made it really easy and fun to play. nothing was too difficult, everything was fun, everything was free and easy to use.

complicating that with questionable designs, or complex controls, or weird physics systems, is just going to give a worse and worse experience

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I'd like them to take some notes from Mercenaries and combine the best elements of both series. Since Mercenaries is a dead franchise, it would have to be a new Just Cause game.

Honestly, I did enjoy Just Cause 3 even though it ran like shit on the Xbone.

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3 is fine but it has all these weird janky aspects that arent like the good kind of jank like JC2 (ie budget-game style jank that even when unintentional played into the feel of the game and made if fun) that make it feel like its interrupting your fun with some bonehead game design every 5 seconds.
ModLogic posted...

i got 3 on the ps sale a few days ago but im not really finding it as fun as all the funny gifs made it seen. from what i recall of 2, other than the cheap shit enemies with aim bots, it was hassle free and easy to tether your way across the map. in JC3 it seems every little thing you clip stops you dead. anyone know if psn does refunds?

This is a good example; the physics are weird and feel too weighty compared to the floaty fuck it just blow shit up approach of 2.

The vehicles also handle weird as fuck, and the camera is RIGHT up on them and exacerbates the issue considerably. 2 had this weird vehicle bug where random vehicles would sometimes have extremely sensitive steering, but the core driving was excellent when it worked right, which was most of the time.

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The only reason to play 3 is for the gliding which is an awesome addition. If modders put the gliding into 2 then I would maybe never stop playing it.

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SmidgeIsntBack posted...

The only reason to play 3 is for the gliding which is an awesome addition. If modders put the gliding into 2 then I would maybe never stop playing it.

im really having difficulty with the gliding challenges. do you have to 5 gear all of them to unlock all mods?

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JC2 is fantastic, I spent countless hours playing it on PS3
Then I got the PC version and spent more countless hours due to mods

Top 5 game of all time for sure

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BlockAddition posted...

JC2 is fantastic, I spent countless hours playing it on PS3
Then I got the PC version and spent more countless hours due to mods

Top 5 game of all time for sure

To this day I can boot it up and spend a good hour or two just kickin shit around in the ice cream truck

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why is no one talking about the absolute masterpiece that was Just Cause 1?

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Remember in JC3 when you had to liberate that town? Fun! Hahaha...hah...ha...

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playing 3 right now and I noticed something; I think most of the vehicles steer from the back...? It feels weird and unresponsive, then jackknifes in the direction you want to turn, like its centered on the rear instead of front. Also, motorcycle steering just shuts off entirely when you go fast.

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Idk how 3 and 4 are but all they needed to do to improve on 2 was make everything destructible and respawnable. The most disappointing part of 2 is that only specific buildings were destructible and they were largely finite.

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