Current Events > Family Comedy Actor, Ice Cube, beefing with Jake Tapper over Farrakhan

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https://twitter.com/icecube/status/1277622674366197762

I mean...is he not homophobic and anti-Semitic? Lol

Thats beefin?

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I hope they get into a fist fight over this.

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Nwa really speaks family values

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ice cube got some issues with his own tweets about jewish ppl

CruelBuffalo posted...

https://twitter.com/icecube/status/1277622674366197762

I mean...is he not homophobic and anti-Semitic? Lol

so is Ice Cube lol he can relate. he's not exactly denying it, just telling jake not to speak on it lol

I see no lies

But Ice Cube isn't wrong either tbqh

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Jake Tapper had no problem with this

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Nor This

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"Beefing" or "beef" is such a dumb word to describe a fued between people.

CruelBuffalo posted...

I mean...is he not homophobic and anti-Semitic? Lol

Why are people trying to push this narrative suddenly?

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Farrakhan is not anti semitic nor homophobic both are old lies and misrepresentations of his words

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ViewtifulGrave posted...

Why are people trying to push this narrative suddenly?

Suddenly? Lol
2Pacavelli posted...

Jake Tapper had no problem with this

whats the title given to Richard Spencer there?

trappedunderice posted...

"Beefing" or "beef" is such a dumb word to describe a fued between people.

feud is worse because they dont have a feud.

https://youtu.be/cRcMyt5EAfs

People like Jake Tapper and Hillary Clinton try to pull out the old Farrakhan litmus test on Black politicians when they know Farrakhan is beloved and well respected and the Nation of Islam has been doing 90 years of invaluable work uplifting the Black community.



He made Keith Ellison feel like he had to lie about his affiliations because he used to sell Final Call Newspapers in the Nation of Islam. Ellison was too weak to admit his affiliations and lied and said Farrakhan was not a good person and that he had no affiliations.

I can't wait until the day our Black politicians stop being so spineless and tell the whole truth unapologetically. Jake Tappers opinion should mean absolutely nothing and anyone who folds it's a poor reflection of their character.

To meet with the man and show fake love and support in private. But lie, deny and forsake him in public. Man up and defend him if you love him so much

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CruelBuffalo posted...

Suddenly? Lol

whats the title given to Richard Spencer there?

White Nationalist

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Jake Tapper is triggered for summer reason he pulled the same game on Keith Ellison and Ellison pitifully lied about it lol

https://youtu.be/cRcMyt5EAfs

Very sad on the both of them

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/editorials/article_103405.shtml

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2Pacavelli posted...

Farrakhan is not anti semitic nor homophobic both are old lies and misrepresentations of his words

https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/nation-of-islam-farrakhan-in-his-own-words

Good luck debunking all these. Why not start with these:

Some of you think that Im just somebody whos got something out for the Jewish people. Youre stupid. Do you think I would waste my time if I did not think it was important for you to know Satan? My job is to pull the cover off of Satan so that he will never deceive you and the people of the world again. Saviours' Day speech, Rosemont, Illinois, 2/27/11

Brother Barack [Obama], under Jewish influence, trying to introduce same-sex marriage to African people, and the Africans say, We dont have nothing like that in our history. We cant identify with that. Then the Western man says, If you want this money from the World Bank or the IMF, you have to make a law that allows same-sex marriage. Look, brothers and sisters, this is satanic. Speech at Mosque Maryam, Chicago, Illinois, 5/27/18

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shockthemonkey posted...

Doesnt Ice Cube also have a history of being anti-LGBTQ and anti-Semitic?

anti-Semitic....I mean...sorta its murky because from my memory he was more angry at a singular person trying to rip him off.

I havent heard anything about gay stuff tho, could be wrong

s0nicfan posted...

https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/nation-of-islam-farrakhan-in-his-own-words

Good luck debunking all these. Why not start with these:

Clearly you're misreading the context of his statements

s0nicfan posted...

Some of you think that Im just somebody whos got something out for the Jewish people. Youre stupid. Do you think I would waste my time if I did not think it was important for you to know Satan? My job is to pull the cover off of Satan so that he will never deceive you and the people of the world again. Saviours' Day speech, Rosemont, Illinois, 2/27/11

One attribute of Satan is one who claims to be holy and uses religion as a shield to defend against their evil practices. Farrakhan only has ever called out those who do evil but use their religion to shield themselves from criticism.

And he's done this for all groups of people and religions including Muslims.

God works through man and Satan does as well. He's not some spook under the ground. If a man is behaving as satan or the devil they are a reflection of that.

This does not mean all Jews and even Jews themselves have attested this and defended him saying his words are often taken out of context

I believe Minister Farrakhan is the most important Muslim leader in the world, who can best represent the concerns of the Islamic world to our government. I have spent countless hours with himI told him this morning that no one had yet come forward with proof that he ever said, Judaism is a gutter religion, or dirty religion, as I have an outstanding offer of $1000 to anyone who can - Economist and Presidential Adviser Jude Wanniski

The media widely reported that the Minister had referred to Judaism as a gutter religion. This error (or distortion) was deeply troubling to the Nation of Islam. The reason was that in Minister Farrakhans vocabulary the phrase dirty religion has a particular meaning. It referred to adherents of a faith who sinned against the tenets of that faith. The dirty religion is the distorted faith which emerges from its manipulation by hypocrites or sinners. The use of dirty religion in the Ministers lexicon could have been discovered by any researcher interested in generating light instead of heat, - Torah Jewish Group Neturei Karta

http://researchminister.com/farrakhan-is-not-an-anti-semite-the-testimony-of-jews-and-whites/

Not just him but many more groups and people state the same thing. Instead of taking quotes and soundbites out of listen to a whole speech

Brother Barack [Obama], under Jewish influence, trying to introduce same-sex marriage to African people, and the Africans say, We dont have nothing like that in our history. We cant identify with that. Then the Western man says, If you want this money from the World Bank or the IMF, you have to make a law that allows same-sex marriage. Look, brothers and sisters, this is satanic. Speech at Mosque Maryam, Chicago, Illinois, 5/27/18

It is a fact that the US government has put economic pressure and the threat of sanctions on Africam countries to push for the legalization of same sex marriage despite it being against their culture. Yet at the same time they never make the threats on countries like Saudi Arabia because they respect their culture.

To use money as a threat to pervert ones religious beliefs is by it's very definition satanic and not just Islam but all the major religions are in agreement with that.

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Ill do it in crayon.

@2Pacavelli what is the definition of homophobia

CruelBuffalo posted...

Ill do it in crayon.

@2Pacavelli what is the definition of homophobia

It's the hatred of people who are gay

Farrakhan has never preached hatred against LGBT people. He's actually defended them. Saying that it is hypocritical to condemn gay people if you yourself are living a life of fornication, adultery, alcoholism etc. It's all sin and everyone needs to clean up before pointing fingers

https://afro.com/farrakhan-denounces-sexism-homophobia/

This doesn't change the fact that the actual act of homosexuality is haram in Islam. As well as Christianity and even Judaism itself. But members of the Jewish community aren't targeted by media pundits or banned from TV and they don't create litmus tests for association with them in order to attempt to destroy the careers of politicians, entertainers etc. That's what's really hypocritical

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2Pacavelli posted...

Farrakhan has never preached hatred against LGBT people. He's actually defended them. Saying that it is hypocritical to condemn gay people if you yourself are living a life of fornication, adultery, alcoholism etc. It's all sin and everyone needs to clean up before pointing fingers

How the fuck is that defending gay people lol

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2Pacavelli posted...

It's the hatred of people who are gay

Farrakhan has never preached hatred against LGBT people. He's actually defended them. Saying that it is hypocritical to condemn gay people if you yourself are living a life of fornication, adultery, alcoholism etc. It's all sin and everyone needs to clean up before pointing fingers

https://afro.com/farrakhan-denounces-sexism-homophobia/

This doesn't change the fact that the actual act of homosexuality is haram in Islam. As well as Christianity and even Judaism itself. But members of the Jewish community aren't targeted by media pundits or banned from TV and they don't create litmus tests for association with them in order to attempt to destroy the careers of politicians, entertainers etc. That's what's really hypocritical

who are the members in the american Jewish community that preach homophobia that arent being condemned?

In the past, Farrakhan has denounced homosexuality as un-Godly and unmanly, but during the speech he acknowledged that he has family members that are gay. He admitted that at a recent event, backstage, he hugged a gay male entertainer and was unfazed about it.

It didnt take anything from me to do that, the minister said. During the speech, he listed oppressed people in America and made a point to say that mistreating gays and transgender people is wrong

There are people who are gay in The Minister's own family and he shows them love all the same. He doesn't treat them in any less respect than any other human being. He doesn't even hesitate to hug them. That doesnt mean he has the write to change the God's law in Islam or any religion.

Depending on who tells it they'd say Jesus himself is homophobic and if Jesus were to come back a second time you'd have people like Jake Tapper slandering him, taking his words out of context and trying to silence him with accusations of Anti Semitism and Homophobia.

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@CruelBuffalo Is Jesus homophobic?

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2Pacavelli posted...

@CruelBuffalo Is Jesus homophobic?

Who knows? Jesus didnt write the bible

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You can disapprove of homosexuality and not hate homosexuals at the same time

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troll_swag posted...

You can disapprove of homosexuality and not hate homosexuals at the same time

I honestly disagree

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"He's not homophobic, Islam is. He just preaches it" has got to be one of the strangest defenses against accusations of homophobia I've ever seen.


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s0nicfan posted...

"He's not homophobic, Islam is. He just preaches it" has got to be one of the strangest defenses against accusations of homophobia I've ever seen.

It's not weird at all, you're missing a key ingredient in the brew which is directly comparing it to Christianity and Judaism

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Balrog0 posted...

I honestly disagree

Why?

i dont approve of it. But I also dont go around condemning it. To me, its none of my business how anyone else chooses to live their life. If you find love with someone of the same sex, thats great. But Its just not for me.

It isnt a hard concept.

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2Pacavelli posted...

He admitted that at a recent event, backstage, he hugged a gay male entertainer and was unfazed about it.

It didnt take anything from me to do that, the minister said.

Totally normal thing for non-homophobic people to say

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@2Pacavelli

It is a fact that the US government has put economic pressure and the threat of sanctions on Africam countries to push for the legalization of same sex marriage despite it being against their culture. Yet at the same time they never make the threats on countries like Saudi Arabia because they respect their culture.

Bullshit. We don't respect Saudi culture at all, we just respect the money.


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troll_swag posted...

Why.

i dont approve of it. But I also dont go around condemning it. To me, its none of my business how anyone else chooses to live their. If you find love with someone of the same sex, thats great. But Its just not for me.

It isnt a hard concept.

I don't understand how you can interpret what you've described yourself feeling as disapproval

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troll_swag posted...

Why.

i dont approve of it. But I also dont go around condemning it. To me, its none of my business how anyone else chooses to live their. If you find love with someone of the same sex, thats great. But Its just not for me.

It isnt a hard concept.

Not approving =/= disapproving

What you describe isn't saying gays shouldn't have gay relationships or anything.

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2Pacavelli posted...

@CruelBuffalo Is Jesus homophobic?

Jesus never said anything about homosexuality being a sin. Farrakhan did.

troll_swag posted...

You can disapprove of homosexuality and not hate homosexuals at the same time

No you can't. That's pretty much a textbook definition of prejudice. You can hate homosexuals while being against re education camps, but that's not the same thing.

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Balrog0 posted...

I don't understand how you can interpret what you've described yourself feeling as disapproval

I dont think its right. I just also dont believe that anyone elses sex life is any of my business.

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Guide posted...

Not approving =/= disapproving

What you describe isn't saying gays shouldn't have gay relationships or anything.

'if you find love with someone of the same sex, great' is actual approval isn't it

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Fenrimis posted...

Who knows? Jesus didnt write the bible

Jesus didn't say anything regarding homosexuality at all.

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Balrog0 posted...

It's not weird at all, you're missing a key ingredient in the brew which is directly comparing it to Christianity and Judaism

I'm well aware of the Apologetics tactic of deflecting to other religions when dealing with an indefensible criticism of yours. I just chose not to engage with it because all that does is succeed in changing the topic.

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I hate anyone on CNN but Jake is right.

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Balrog0 posted...

'if you find love with someone of the same sex, great' is actual approval isn't it

Right, yeah. He's trying to go for a neutral tone, but it's just passive approval.

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I also have an opinion on this!

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troll_swag posted...

You can disapprove of homosexuality and not hate homosexuals at the same time

This people try to conflate the two. Then pick and choose who they want to apply the standard on for political points. In reality a lot of the people doing this probably don't even really care about actual LGBT people. They're using their struggle as a pawn in a political game

s0nicfan posted...

"He's not homophobic, Islam is. He just preaches it" has got to be one of the strangest defenses against accusations of homophobia I've ever seen.

Is Judaism homophobic? Is Christianity homophobic? What is your full definition of homophobia?

Why do people like you target Islam and not other religions or groups of people? Should synagogues be shut down if they don't conduct gay marriages? Should we throw sanctions on all Arab countries for not legalizing gay marriage like the USA tried to do to Zambia recently?

Also what makes the USA an enforcement authority on this subject when gay marriage was only legalized here 10 years ago?

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troll_swag posted...

I dont think its right. I just also dont believe that anyone elses sex life is any of my business.

Well based on what you've said here I think you actually approve of homosexuality and are probably a fine person but a bronze age cult has warped your internal moral compass so that you're not sure how to relate that normally

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Jesus never said anything about homosexuality being a sin. Farrakhan did.

Jesus preached for people to live in accord with Gods law and to have their mind transformed so they don't even think to do sin. He preached the volume of the book.

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