Current Events > Locking topics does not make them less true, you know.

(+) Yeah! (+)

Instead of plugging your ears and going I CANT HEAR YOU whenever concern is raised over racist trolls, you could try implementing changes so they arent quite so rampant.

just a thought

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They had every right to lock it, it was getting out of hand.

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Like, I moderate and admin a number of communities of varying sizes, I recognize the importance of allowing differing views and opinions, even if you personally disagree with them; this is not that. This is rampant, unchecked, and barely-punished white supremacist shitposting and hate speech. Fucking do something about it.

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Damn, this TC dude is breaking as well?

Tsk tsk.

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Vicious_Dios posted...

Damn, this TC dude is breaking as well?

Tsk tsk.

I mean this is just blatant, transparent trolling, but if anyone is modded here it will be me. Its ridiculous. This isnt how you moderate a community.

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So if someone is going to make a claim that users of this platform are using hate speech or being racist/sexist/bigoted/etc, they need to be able to provide evidence for that claim, otherwise it's considered flaming and... that goes against the TOS.

That's why I asked for concrete evidence of blatant bigotry from a user in that topic. But it got locked almost immediately after.

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Maybe stop calling mods racist?

We've had so many polls here. CE is like 50% far left. 25% moderate left. 24% moderate right. 1% far right

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Interesting article here...
https://www.popsci.com/radical-politics-metacognition/

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Xenozoa425 posted...

So if someone is going to make a claim that users of this platform are using hate speech or being racist/sexist/bigoted/etc, they need to be able to provide evidence for that claim, otherwise it's considered flaming and... that goes against the TOS.

That's why I asked for concrete evidence of blatant bigotry from a user in that topic. But it got locked almost immediately after.

You mean like the alts that pop up, link to a far-right conspiracy page about how violent black people are or some egregious bullshit, then disappear forever only to be replaced by an account behaving exactly the same but being treated as a clean slate? Its absurd.

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Squall28 posted...

Maybe stop calling mods racist?

We've had so many polls here. CE is like 50% far left. 25% moderate left. 24% moderate right. 1% far right

And yet the board is overrun by new accounts and long-inactive old accounts posting bigoted garbage

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Other topic got deleted. This one won't be long.

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Statical_Ork posted...

You mean like the alts that pop up, link to a far-right conspiracy page about how violent black people are or some egregious bullshit, then disappear forever only to be replaced by an account behaving exactly the same but being treated as a clean slate? Its absurd.

Even though stuff like this is wrong, I'm positive you can see this happening on the other end of the spectrum as well. It's not that one-sided in the slightest.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLatBu--pHM

This is all i'm hearing from all the anger. Everybody having a bad time it seems.

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Squall28 posted...

Maybe stop calling mods racist?

We've had so many polls here. CE is like 50% far left. 25% moderate left. 24% moderate right. 1% far right

it's almost like alt righters lie about their political views but continue to be obvious alt right shitposters

edit: the mods aren't racist from what i have seen, they just don't do enough to crack down on obvious right wing trolls

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shockthemonkey posted...

But if we ban them then they come back on an alt! We definitely couldnt raise the karma requirement for any board where discussions on race is appropriate

For once we agree on something. Hot damn. Why is this not a standard already?

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Xenozoa425 posted...

Even though stuff like this is wrong, I'm positive you can see this happening on the other end of the spectrum as well. It's not that one-sided in the slightest.

What is the left wing equivalent exactly? Posting about equality, a fairer economic system, being against oppression and prejudice? Yeah that's really comparable to talking about non whites as subhuman and calling for violence. "Both sides!" is a bullshit concept when one ideology is rooted in hate and the other isn't.

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lol

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Xenozoa425 posted...

Even though stuff like this is wrong, I'm positive you can see this happening on the other end of the spectrum as well. It's not that one-sided in the slightest.

I mean, no, there literally is not a bot network of alt accounts posting leftist ideals, and even so, radical left politics do not preach racial violence and white supremacy.

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It's a private platform, they can allow whatever content and users on it they want.

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That topic was way out of line. I got the impression that the TC and his ilk believe supporting Trump makes someone a member of the alt-right.
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Its so prevalent here
Its like nonstop
Link me to 2 topics espousing the hate speech you see

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PickleRick2019 posted...

That topic was way out of line. I got the impression that the TC and his ilk believe supporting Trump makes someone a member of the alt-right.

June 2020 account type post

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Dreamscissors posted...

What is the left wing equivalent exactly? Posting about equality, a fairer economic system, being against oppression and prejudice? Yeah that's really comparable to talking about non whites as subhuman and calling for violence. "Both sides!" is a bullshit concept when one ideology is rooted in hate and the other isn't.

I think this small article helps with some insight to what would be the radical-left equivalent to white supremacy.

https://www.theperspective.com/debates/politics/similar-far-left-far-right/

Also, the Democratic party itself has roots to treating blacks as lower than human.

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Do I tell him that pretending the party platforms never flipped is some dummy shit, or should I go with explaining how the Democrats are by no means left or radical left

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The Trent posted...

Its so prevalent here
Its like nonstop
Link me to 2 topics espousing the hate speech you see

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Xenozoa425 posted...

I think this small article helps with some insight to what would be the radical-left equivalent to white supremacy.

https://www.theperspective.com/debates/politics/similar-far-left-far-right/

Also, the Democratic party itself has roots to treating blacks as lower than human.

Well that article was a load of nonsense and the Democrats are a right wing party, so what's your point?

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PickleRick2019 posted...

That topic was way out of line. I got the impression that the TC and his ilk believe supporting Trump makes someone a member of the alt-right.

Saying you shouldn't defund the police or resort to violence in protests makes you alt right in their eyes.

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mrgoatthief posted...

Remember when the Trent was trolling about coronavirus and when that stopped getting him replies he started supporting alt right posters instead?

lmao

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Who are the alt right posters i support
And my coronavirus stance hasn't changed: I'm not freaking out

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you'll have to quote him again if he replies
I cant see his posts, he has me blocked on that account

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mrgoatthief posted...

Remember when the Trent was trolling about coronavirus and when that stopped getting him replies he started supporting alt right posters instead?

remember when you said you were closing all your accounts and stopping with the drama?
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my request for evidence is wholly ignored ;_;

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@Statical_Ork
any update on the topics and posters you're speaking of specifically?
i really need to know who these people are and where the topics are so i can also shun these people

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Yeah bro lemme just check my file of every alt thats been banned for the past 4-6 years. Fuck off, I dont owe you shit and you dont actually want or need evidence, you know its a problem and youre feigning ignorance & interest in evidence to troll.

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no dude i'm just asking for a link to two topics
you guys claim it's overwhelming the board, you shouldn't have to look very hard for two topics that espouse hate speech

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no one is asking you for a comprehensive database of alts for five years
that's silly
you're being silly

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What did I miss?

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The Trent posted...

no dude i'm just asking for a link to two topics
you guys claim it's overwhelming the board, you shouldn't have to look very hard for two topics that espouse hate speech

Imagine going on about this shit when its literally obvious to fucking everyone but you just want that "gotcha" moment to keep trolling TC.

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it's literally not obvious to me
i see a few people act like assholes
to act like this is a prevalent thing overwhelming the board is silly and it should be easy to show

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