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IMNOTRAGED 06/25/20 10:46:29 AM #51:	Squall28 posted... One of the main reasons MLK's protests were so successful was because they brutality was one sided. Siding with MLK was so obvious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEy-xtIQJkA --- https://imgur.com/kkm3QaD <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:941233805] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>One of the main reasons MLK's protests were so successful was because they brutality was one sided. Siding with MLK was so obvious.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEy-xtIQJkA </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 06/25/20 10:53:03 AM #52:	Squall28 posted... MLK? Ghandi? You know...some of the greatest leaders we've ever had? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_resistance You do realize that King believed that understood that violence was part of the process as well? Spend some time reading his writings, his letters, his speeches. The people in power want you to believe that you can get a boot off of your neck by asking nicely, because when you ask nicely they can ignore you. That's why they teach you shit like "MLK and Ghandi were peaceful" It doesn't fucking work that way and never has. There were plenty of militant groups that worked with King's movement and protected the activists. Look up the Deacons for Defense and Justice. They were the ones who stopped the Jonesboro Klan from burning anymore crosses. How? They had black servants put leaflets in the homes of their white employers stating that they would kill anyone who burned a cross. The cross burnings stopped. They and groups like them were the ones who enforced locally the achievements that King accomplished nationally. Or did you really believe that once things we desegregated and jim crow laws overturned that the struggle was over and the locals just went along with it? It wasn't over and the local whites and their cop enforcers didn't go along with it. Groups like the Deacons for Defense made sure they did. Had the labor movement been led by people with your mindset (cowards) we'd all still be working 80 hours a week with children as our co-workers in wildly unsafe conditions with no OSHA or workmen's comp. What you want is peace and civility so you can ignore it because you aren't part of the group being targeted by the cops. Why should people sit by and peacefully accept extrajudicial executions of their family, friends, and fellow citizens. So you won't be inconvienced? Why should they be forced to take beatings from the cops to appease your appeal for peaceful change? Why should they take being gassed without fighting back so you can smugly claim they took the moral high ground, from the safety of your computer, even though it accomplished nothing. EDIT: Your statement that people sided with MLK because the violence was so one-sided is fucking ridiculous and has no basis in history. When he was murdered his approval rating amongst the public was 75% negative. He was wilded hated by the overwhelming majority of people in this country. STOP FUCKING TALKING ABOUT SHIT YOU DON'T KNOW OR UNDERSTAND. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/why-martin-luther-king-had-75-percent-disapproval-rating-year-he-died-180968664/ Read this and please for the love of god shut the fuck up. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:941234095] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>MLK? Ghandi? You know...some of the greatest leaders we've ever had? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_resistance</quote>You do realize that King believed that understood that violence was part of the process as well? Spend some time reading his writings, his letters, his speeches. The people in power want you to believe that you can get a boot off of your neck by asking nicely, because when you ask nicely they can ignore you. That's why they teach you shit like "MLK and Ghandi were peaceful" It doesn't fucking work that way and never has. There were plenty of militant groups that worked with King's movement and protected the activists. Look up the Deacons for Defense and Justice. They were the ones who stopped the Jonesboro Klan from burning anymore crosses. How? They had black servants put leaflets in the homes of their white employers stating that they would kill anyone who burned a cross. The cross burnings stopped. They and groups like them were the ones who enforced locally the achievements that King accomplished nationally. Or did you really believe that once things we desegregated and jim crow laws overturned that the struggle was over and the locals just went along with it? It wasn't over and the local whites and their cop enforcers didn't go along with it. Groups like the Deacons for Defense made sure they did. Had the labor movement been led by people with your mindset (cowards) we'd all still be working 80 hours a week with children as our co-workers in wildly unsafe conditions with no OSHA or workmen's comp. What you want is peace and civility so you can ignore it because you aren't part of the group being targeted by the cops. Why should people sit by and peacefully accept extrajudicial executions of their family, friends, and fellow citizens. So you won't be inconvienced? Why should they be forced to take beatings from the cops to appease your appeal for peaceful change? Why should they take being gassed without fighting back so you can smugly claim they took the moral high ground, from the safety of your computer, even though it accomplished nothing. EDIT: Your statement that people sided with MLK because the violence was so one-sided is fucking ridiculous and has no basis in history. When he was murdered his approval rating amongst the public was 75% negative. He was wilded hated by the overwhelming majority of people in this country. STOP FUCKING TALKING ABOUT SHIT YOU DON'T KNOW OR UNDERSTAND. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/why-martin-luther-king-had-75-percent-disapproval-rating-year-he-died-180968664/ Read this and please for the love of god shut the fuck up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 06/25/20 10:58:29 AM #53:	ScazarMeltex posted... You do realize that King believed that understood that violence was part of the process as well? Spend some time reading his writings, his letters, his speeches. The people in power want you to believe that you can get a boot off of your neck by asking nicely, because when you ask nicely they can ignore you. That's why they teach you shit like "MLK and Ghandi were peaceful" It doesn't fucking work that way and never has. There were plenty of militant groups that worked with King's movement and protected the activists. Look up the Deacons for Defense and Justice. They were the ones who stopped the Jonesboro Klan from burning anymore crosses. How? They had black servants put leaflets in the homes of their white employers stating that they would kill anyone who burned a cross. The cross burnings stopped. They and groups like them were the ones who enforced locally the achievements that King accomplished nationally. Or did you really believe that once things we desegregated and jim crow laws overturned that the struggle was over and the locals just went along with it? It wasn't over and the local whites and their cop enforcers didn't go along with it. Groups like the Deacons for Defense made sure they did. Had the labor movement been led by people with your mindset (cowards) we'd all still be working 80 hours a week with children as our co-workers in wildly unsafe conditions with no OSHA or workmen's comp. What you want is peace and civility so you can ignore it because you aren't part of the group being targeted by the cops. Why should people sit by and peacefully accept extrajudicial executions of their family, friends, and fellow citizens. So you won't be inconvienced? Why should they be forced to take beatings from the cops to appease your appeal for peaceful change? Why should they take being gassed without fighting back so you can smugly claim they took the moral high ground, from the safety of your computer, even though it accomplished nothing. EDIT: Your statement that people sided with MLK because the violence was so one-sided is fucking ridiculous and has no basis in history. When he was murdered his approval rating amongst the public was 75% negative. He was wilded hated by the overwhelming majority of people in this country. STOP FUCKING TALKING ABOUT SHIT YOU DON'T KNOW OR UNDERSTAND. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/why-martin-luther-king-had-75-percent-disapproval-rating-year-he-died-180968664/ Read this and please for the love of god shut the fuck up. God damn. That man had a family. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:941234306] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>You do realize that King believed that understood that violence was part of the process as well? Spend some time reading his writings, his letters, his speeches. The people in power want you to believe that you can get a boot off of your neck by asking nicely, because when you ask nicely they can ignore you. That's why they teach you shit like "MLK and Ghandi were peaceful" It doesn't fucking work that way and never has. There were plenty of militant groups that worked with King's movement and protected the activists. Look up the Deacons for Defense and Justice. They were the ones who stopped the Jonesboro Klan from burning anymore crosses. How? They had black servants put leaflets in the homes of their white employers stating that they would kill anyone who burned a cross. The cross burnings stopped. They and groups like them were the ones who enforced locally the achievements that King accomplished nationally. Or did you really believe that once things we desegregated and jim crow laws overturned that the struggle was over and the locals just went along with it? It wasn't over and the local whites and their cop enforcers didn't go along with it. Groups like the Deacons for Defense made sure they did. Had the labor movement been led by people with your mindset (cowards) we'd all still be working 80 hours a week with children as our co-workers in wildly unsafe conditions with no OSHA or workmen's comp. What you want is peace and civility so you can ignore it because you aren't part of the group being targeted by the cops. Why should people sit by and peacefully accept extrajudicial executions of their family, friends, and fellow citizens. So you won't be inconvienced? Why should they be forced to take beatings from the cops to appease your appeal for peaceful change? Why should they take being gassed without fighting back so you can smugly claim they took the moral high ground, from the safety of your computer, even though it accomplished nothing. EDIT: Your statement that people sided with MLK because the violence was so one-sided is fucking ridiculous and has no basis in history. When he was murdered his approval rating amongst the public was 75% negative. He was wilded hated by the overwhelming majority of people in this country. STOP FUCKING TALKING ABOUT SHIT YOU DON'T KNOW OR UNDERSTAND. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/why-martin-luther-king-had-75-percent-disapproval-rating-year-he-died-180968664/ Read this and please for the love of god shut the fuck up.</quote> God damn. That man had a family. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 06/25/20 10:59:20 AM #54:	ScazarMeltex posted... What you want is peace and civility so you can ignore it because you aren't part of the group being targeted by the cops. Why should people sit by and peacefully accept extrajudicial executions of their family, friends, and fellow citizens. So you won't be inconvienced? Why should they be forced to take beatings from the cops to appease your appeal for peaceful change? Why should they take being gassed without fighting back so you can smugly claim they took the moral high ground, from the safety of your computer, even though it accomplished nothing. I never said anything about not defending yourself, and you can go ahead and shove the rest of that strawman too. --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:941234341] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>What you want is peace and civility so you can ignore it because you aren't part of the group being targeted by the cops. Why should people sit by and peacefully accept extrajudicial executions of their family, friends, and fellow citizens. So you won't be inconvienced? Why should they be forced to take beatings from the cops to appease your appeal for peaceful change? Why should they take being gassed without fighting back so you can smugly claim they took the moral high ground, from the safety of your computer, even though it accomplished nothing.</quote> I never said anything about not defending yourself, and you can go ahead and shove the rest of that strawman too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 06/25/20 10:59:55 AM #55:	Top tier post tbh lol --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:941234364] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Top tier post tbh lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BettyWhite 06/25/20 11:01:11 AM #56:	I legit don't want people like this on earth, and since I doubt they're gonna make a black friend folding laundry they're better off getting Danny'd. --- Life is pain and misery beat skeet to asian street meat <cite>BettyWhite posted [p:941234422] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>I legit don't want people like this on earth, and since I doubt they're gonna make a black friend folding laundry they're better off getting Danny'd. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 06/25/20 11:02:06 AM #57:	Squall28 posted... I never said anything about not defending yourself, and you can go ahead and shove the rest of that strawman too. Feel free to argue against any of the points I made you fucking spineless coward. You can't. Just come out and say that you want things to go peacefully so that you don't have inconvenienced. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:941234466] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>I never said anything about not defending yourself, and you can go ahead and shove the rest of that strawman too.</quote>Feel free to argue against any of the points I made you fucking spineless coward. You can't. Just come out and say that you want things to go peacefully so that you don't have inconvenienced. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ApathyBear 06/25/20 11:02:37 AM #58:	Squall28 posted... I never said anything about not defending yourself, and you can go ahead and shove the rest of that strawman too. lol way to ignore the meat of his post to try to save face --- MacadamianNut3 reverse alt <cite>ApathyBear posted [p:941234490] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>I never said anything about not defending yourself, and you can go ahead and shove the rest of that strawman too.</quote>lol way to ignore the meat of his post to try to save face </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 06/25/20 11:02:47 AM #59:	https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/status/1270076281040797699 This thread gives a pretty solid rundown of the dynamic between MLK and more physically violent figures like Robert F Williams and James Forman and how the latter were just as impactful on getting the voting rights act passed. --- https://imgur.com/kkm3QaD <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:941234500] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/status/1270076281040797699 This thread gives a pretty solid rundown of the dynamic between MLK and more physically violent figures like Robert F Williams and James Forman and how the latter were just as impactful on getting the voting rights act passed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kyujo 06/25/20 11:03:30 AM #60:	ScazarMeltex posted... Feel free to argue against any of the points I made you fucking spineless coward. You can't. Just come out and say that you want things to go peacefully so that you don't have inconvenienced. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcZzlPGnKdU --- Current Game(s): Borderlands 3, WD2, FF7R Must-watch: Legion, AoS, The 100 <cite>kyujo posted [p:941234525] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>Feel free to argue against any of the points I made you fucking spineless coward. You can't. Just come out and say that you want things to go peacefully so that you don't have inconvenienced.</quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcZzlPGnKdU </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 06/25/20 11:03:38 AM #61:	Squall28 posted... I never said anything about not defending yourself, and you can go ahead and shove the rest of that strawman too. Lol time to close your account --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:941234536] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>I never said anything about not defending yourself, and you can go ahead and shove the rest of that strawman too.</quote>Lol time to close your account </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FursonaNonGrata 06/25/20 11:05:36 AM #62:	ScazarMeltex posted... You do realize that King believed that understood that violence was part of the process as well? Spend some time reading his writings, his letters, his speeches. The people in power want you to believe that you can get a boot off of your neck by asking nicely, because when you ask nicely they can ignore you. That's why they teach you shit like "MLK and Ghandi were peaceful" It doesn't fucking work that way and never has. There were plenty of militant groups that worked with King's movement and protected the activists. Look up the Deacons for Defense and Justice. They were the ones who stopped the Jonesboro Klan from burning anymore crosses. How? They had black servants put leaflets in the homes of their white employers stating that they would kill anyone who burned a cross. The cross burnings stopped. They and groups like them were the ones who enforced locally the achievements that King accomplished nationally. Or did you really believe that once things we desegregated and jim crow laws overturned that the struggle was over and the locals just went along with it? It wasn't over and the local whites and their cop enforcers didn't go along with it. Groups like the Deacons for Defense made sure they did. Had the labor movement been led by people with your mindset (cowards) we'd all still be working 80 hours a week with children as our co-workers in wildly unsafe conditions with no OSHA or workmen's comp. What you want is peace and civility so you can ignore it because you aren't part of the group being targeted by the cops. Why should people sit by and peacefully accept extrajudicial executions of their family, friends, and fellow citizens. So you won't be inconvienced? Why should they be forced to take beatings from the cops to appease your appeal for peaceful change? Why should they take being gassed without fighting back so you can smugly claim they took the moral high ground, from the safety of your computer, even though it accomplished nothing. EDIT: Your statement that people sided with MLK because the violence was so one-sided is fucking ridiculous and has no basis in history. When he was murdered his approval rating amongst the public was 75% negative. He was wilded hated by the overwhelming majority of people in this country. STOP FUCKING TALKING ABOUT SHIT YOU DON'T KNOW OR UNDERSTAND. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/why-martin-luther-king-had-75-percent-disapproval-rating-year-he-died-180968664/ Read this and please for the love of god shut the fuck up. https://youtu.be/ypot3CYECwE --- A.M.A.B. ~The Outlaw Country of Posting~ <cite>FursonaNonGrata posted [p:941234617] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>You do realize that King believed that understood that violence was part of the process as well? Spend some time reading his writings, his letters, his speeches. The people in power want you to believe that you can get a boot off of your neck by asking nicely, because when you ask nicely they can ignore you. That's why they teach you shit like "MLK and Ghandi were peaceful" It doesn't fucking work that way and never has. There were plenty of militant groups that worked with King's movement and protected the activists. Look up the Deacons for Defense and Justice. They were the ones who stopped the Jonesboro Klan from burning anymore crosses. How? They had black servants put leaflets in the homes of their white employers stating that they would kill anyone who burned a cross. The cross burnings stopped. They and groups like them were the ones who enforced locally the achievements that King accomplished nationally. Or did you really believe that once things we desegregated and jim crow laws overturned that the struggle was over and the locals just went along with it? It wasn't over and the local whites and their cop enforcers didn't go along with it. Groups like the Deacons for Defense made sure they did. Had the labor movement been led by people with your mindset (cowards) we'd all still be working 80 hours a week with children as our co-workers in wildly unsafe conditions with no OSHA or workmen's comp. What you want is peace and civility so you can ignore it because you aren't part of the group being targeted by the cops. Why should people sit by and peacefully accept extrajudicial executions of their family, friends, and fellow citizens. So you won't be inconvienced? Why should they be forced to take beatings from the cops to appease your appeal for peaceful change? Why should they take being gassed without fighting back so you can smugly claim they took the moral high ground, from the safety of your computer, even though it accomplished nothing. EDIT: Your statement that people sided with MLK because the violence was so one-sided is fucking ridiculous and has no basis in history. When he was murdered his approval rating amongst the public was 75% negative. He was wilded hated by the overwhelming majority of people in this country. STOP FUCKING TALKING ABOUT SHIT YOU DON'T KNOW OR UNDERSTAND. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/why-martin-luther-king-had-75-percent-disapproval-rating-year-he-died-180968664/ Read this and please for the love of god shut the fuck up.</quote> https://youtu.be/ypot3CYECwE </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 06/25/20 11:06:01 AM #63:	Squall28 posted... One of the main reasons MLK's protests were so successful was because they brutality was one sided. Siding with MLK was so obvious. I always like posting this cartoon from the time --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:941234632] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>One of the main reasons MLK's protests were so successful was because they brutality was one sided. Siding with MLK was so obvious.</quote>I always like posting this cartoon from the time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 06/25/20 11:08:35 AM #64:	@Squall28 , you might not have directly said those things, but there's a logical problem here. What avenue do you leave people with if you (and I mean you as in, America) don't immediately address the serious human rights issues they're facing when they peacefully direct your attention to it? Going back to that MLK quote I posted, there's an implicit assumption here that the priority is to slowly and without causing any disturbances somehow, eventually, gradually, somewhat stop killing and abusing black people en masse. We just need to ease the gas off slightly and eventually the helltrain will come to a stop given enough time, let's not try and slam on the brakes or anything. It seems ridiculous when it's put that way but when the argument is "Ok I know genocide is wrong I'm not arguing that, but we need to not lose our heads here and deal with it peacefully"...what else can be assumed you mean? --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:941234743] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>@Squall28 , you might not have directly said those things, but there's a logical problem here. What avenue do you leave people with if you (and I mean you as in, America) don't immediately address the serious human rights issues they're facing when they peacefully direct your attention to it? Going back to that MLK quote I posted, there's an implicit assumption here that the priority is to slowly and without causing any disturbances somehow, eventually, gradually, somewhat stop killing and abusing black people en masse. We just need to ease the gas off slightly and eventually the helltrain will come to a stop given enough time, let's not try and slam on the brakes or anything. It seems ridiculous when it's put that way but when the argument is "Ok I know genocide is wrong I'm not arguing that, but we need to not lose our heads here and deal with it peacefully"...what else can be assumed you mean? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 06/25/20 11:08:45 AM #65:	It was one thing to capture public sympathy nationwide when pitted against the raw hatred and brutality that seemed the peculiar province of whites below the Mason-Dixon Line. In your own article. Also mentioned King had a strict adherence to nonviolence. Also think it's hilarious your cheerleaders think beating a Strawman makes you a victor. --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:941234751] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote><quote>It was one thing to capture public sympathy nationwide when pitted against the raw hatred and brutality that seemed the peculiar province of whites below the Mason-Dixon Line.</quote> In your own article. Also mentioned King had a strict adherence to nonviolence. Also think it's hilarious your cheerleaders think beating a Strawman makes you a victor. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FursonaNonGrata 06/25/20 11:11:03 AM #66:	Theres no victor. Theres no argument or debate. Its just a bunch of people calling out your profound ignorance disguised as enlightened thinking. --- A.M.A.B. ~The Outlaw Country of Posting~ <cite>FursonaNonGrata posted [p:941234857] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Theres no victor. Theres no argument or debate. Its just a bunch of people calling out your profound ignorance disguised as enlightened thinking. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rodu_jr 06/25/20 11:11:47 AM #67:	Gotta wonder about the attitude in the force towards the officers who reported this <cite>rodu_jr posted [p:941234880] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Gotta wonder about the attitude in the force towards the officers who reported this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 06/25/20 11:13:10 AM #68:	IMNOTRAGED posted... https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/status/1270076281040797699 This thread gives a pretty solid rundown of the dynamic between MLK and more physically violent figures like Robert F Williams and James Forman and how the latter were just as impactful on getting the voting rights act passed. This. There is so much history that is simply not taught because it goes against the narrative that people in power like spew about being peaceful and how much peaceful resistance has accomplished. Because that narrative is what allows them to stay in power. Peaceful protesters can be beaten, shot, murdered (Ferguson protest organizers), gassed without any real consequence to the people in power. When people are willing to fight back, people in power get scared because they know there are more of us than there are of them (even with their police enforcers they are wildly outnumbered). Hence the narrative "you have to remain peaceful". --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:941234938] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>IMNOTRAGED posted... </cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/status/1270076281040797699 This thread gives a pretty solid rundown of the dynamic between MLK and more physically violent figures like Robert F Williams and James Forman and how the latter were just as impactful on getting the voting rights act passed.</quote>This. There is so much history that is simply not taught because it goes against the narrative that people in power like spew about being peaceful and how much peaceful resistance has accomplished. Because that narrative is what allows them to stay in power. Peaceful protesters can be beaten, shot, murdered (Ferguson protest organizers), gassed without any real consequence to the people in power. When people are willing to fight back, people in power get scared because they know there are more of us than there are of them (even with their police enforcers they are wildly outnumbered). Hence the narrative "you have to remain peaceful". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 06/25/20 11:17:27 AM #69:	Squall28 posted... In your own article. Also mentioned King had a strict adherence to nonviolence. Did you miss the points in the rest of this thread about how King was able to adhere to nonviolence because there were other groups around him who didn't. The picture is far bigger than King and it took a ton of people willing to fight to defend the gains that King's movement made to make those gains stick. Seriously dude, you are either profoundly and proudly ignorant of reality and history or you are just trolling. Feel free to do one of these things, educate yourself or fuck off and stop talking about things you clearly don't understand. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:941235135] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>In your own article. Also mentioned King had a strict adherence to nonviolence.</quote>Did you miss the points in the rest of this thread about how King was able to adhere to nonviolence because there were other groups around him who didn't. The picture is far bigger than King and it took a ton of people willing to fight to defend the gains that King's movement made to make those gains stick. Seriously dude, you are either profoundly and proudly ignorant of reality and history or you are just trolling. Feel free to do one of these things, educate yourself or fuck off and stop talking about things you clearly don't understand. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarqueeSeries 06/25/20 11:24:44 AM #70:	ScazarMeltex posted... Squall28 posted... Again, I'm not against police reform or reallocating police funds to other sectors that can better address needs of the community. I'm against passionately hating an entire group of people. Police stories typically end up being a circle jerk of hate for police calling them pigs and the like. I want to see peaceful reform, not a violent mob one which I fear will happen if things keep escalating. I made a huge ass tangent because it was a response to another post. Don't think my responses were targeted at you in particular. What reforms have been accomplished peacefully? Everything that is on the table now insofar as reforms go was unthinkable a few months ago. The only reason those are on the table now is because people are willing to fight. Not one time in history has real change come without a fight. The bold part is the big take away here. It's such a sheltered privileged viewpoint to say "violence is never the answer" Like yeah that's good on paper, and in a perfect utopia we could all just sit down and reach peaceful conclusions that everyone is happy with. But freedom has always come at some cost --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 <cite>MarqueeSeries posted [p:941235415] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote> Again, I'm not against police reform or reallocating police funds to other sectors that can better address needs of the community. I'm against passionately hating an entire group of people. Police stories typically end up being a circle jerk of hate for police calling them pigs and the like. I want to see peaceful reform, not a violent mob one which I fear will happen if things keep escalating. I made a huge ass tangent because it was a response to another post. Don't think my responses were targeted at you in particular.</quote>What reforms have been accomplished peacefully? Everything that is on the table now insofar as reforms go was unthinkable a few months ago. The only reason those are on the table now is because people are willing to fight. Not one time in history has real change come without a fight. </quote> The bold part is the big take away here. It's such a sheltered privileged viewpoint to say "violence is never the answer" Like yeah that's good on paper, and in a perfect utopia we could all just sit down and reach peaceful conclusions that everyone is happy with. But freedom has always come at some cost</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 06/25/20 11:25:44 AM #71:	ScazarMeltex posted... Feel free to argue against any of the points I made you fucking spineless coward. You can't. Just come out and say that you want things to go peacefully so that you don't have inconvenienced. Typical of too many whites. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:941235455] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>Feel free to argue against any of the points I made you fucking spineless coward. You can't. Just come out and say that you want things to go peacefully so that you don't have inconvenienced.</quote> Typical of too many whites. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
onedarksoul 06/25/20 11:30:09 AM #72:	Webbernet posted... I honestly cant wrap my head around racism. I suppose this is a 5 am thought, but its like, your iq must be below room temperature to look at another person, and because of small visual differences assume they cant be as smart as you or are somehow subhuman. I mean, talk about letting your dumbass hindbrain take over. Id be embarrassed to speak aloud such unscientific nonsense yet some people base their whole life off it, getting fiery buttmad over other people for literally no reason. Its more about neurosis, than IQ. There are some very intelligent racists. --- Finish a game? Add it to our list! Beat 1,000 games: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/78785005 <cite>onedarksoul posted [p:941235611] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Webbernet posted... </cite> <quote>I honestly cant wrap my head around racism. I suppose this is a 5 am thought, but its like, your iq must be below room temperature to look at another person, and because of small visual differences assume they cant be as smart as you or are somehow subhuman. I mean, talk about letting your dumbass hindbrain take over. Id be embarrassed to speak aloud such unscientific nonsense yet some people base their whole life off it, getting fiery buttmad over other people for literally no reason.</quote>Its more about neurosis, than IQ. There are some very intelligent racists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 06/25/20 11:34:48 AM #73:	onedarksoul posted... Its more about neurosis, than IQ. There are some very intelligent racists. Yeah. The example I always point to is that Richard Spencer went to Duke --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:941235758] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>onedarksoul posted... </cite> <quote>Its more about neurosis, than IQ. There are some very intelligent racists.</quote>Yeah. The example I always point to is that Richard Spencer went to Duke </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShroomKingJr 06/25/20 11:39:45 AM #74:	FursonaNonGrata posted... And what would you call the hundreds of documented accounts of police in riot gear brutalizing peaceful protests over the last month? A myth. I can't find any videos of rioters getting their asses kicked by police in the last month. --- Do your part, report immigration violations below. https://www.ice.gov/webform/hsi-tip-form <cite>ShroomKingJr posted [p:941235949] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>FursonaNonGrata posted... </cite> <quote>And what would you call the hundreds of documented accounts of police in riot gear brutalizing peaceful protests over the last month?</quote> A myth. I can't find any videos of rioters getting their asses kicked by police in the last month. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rexdragon125 06/25/20 11:39:48 AM #75:	https://www.reddit.com/r/NASCAR/comments/hdybat/a_week_ago_i_made_comments_defending_the/fvo4gnm/ Good post describing how black oppression carried on after the Confederacy. It's just caveman tribalism driving these racists. <cite>Rexdragon125 posted [p:941235951] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>https://www.reddit.com/r/NASCAR/comments/hdybat/a_week_ago_i_made_comments_defending_the/fvo4gnm/ Good post describing how black oppression carried on after the Confederacy. It's just caveman tribalism driving these racists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 06/25/20 11:41:42 AM #76:	ScazarMeltex posted... Did you miss the points in the rest of this thread about how King was able to adhere to nonviolence because there were other groups around him who didn't. The picture is far bigger than King and it took a ton of people willing to fight to defend the gains that King's movement made to make those gains stick. Seriously dude, you are either profoundly and proudly ignorant of reality and history or you are just trolling. Feel free to do one of these things, educate yourself or fuck off and stop talking about things you clearly don't understand. I have no issues with defense as I already mentioned in my original reply to that post. The MO and success of these things still mainly stem from nonviolence. Frankly, I'll stop talking to you this about this. Not because you made any valid points, but because your posts have devolved into insults and putting words in my mouth. Not a discussion worth having. --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:941236022] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>Did you miss the points in the rest of this thread about how King was able to adhere to nonviolence because there were other groups around him who didn't. The picture is far bigger than King and it took a ton of people willing to fight to defend the gains that King's movement made to make those gains stick. Seriously dude, you are either profoundly and proudly ignorant of reality and history or you are just trolling. Feel free to do one of these things, educate yourself or fuck off and stop talking about things you clearly don't understand.</quote> I have no issues with defense as I already mentioned in my original reply to that post. The MO and success of these things still mainly stem from nonviolence. Frankly, I'll stop talking to you this about this. Not because you made any valid points, but because your posts have devolved into insults and putting words in my mouth. Not a discussion worth having. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 06/25/20 11:42:00 AM #77:	IMNOTRAGED posted... https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/status/1270076281040797699 This thread gives a pretty solid rundown of the dynamic between MLK and more physically violent figures like Robert F Williams and James Forman and how the latter were just as impactful on getting the voting rights act passed. Wow, this is a thing of beauty --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:941236035] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>IMNOTRAGED posted... </cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/status/1270076281040797699 This thread gives a pretty solid rundown of the dynamic between MLK and more physically violent figures like Robert F Williams and James Forman and how the latter were just as impactful on getting the voting rights act passed.</quote> Wow, this is a thing of beauty </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FursonaNonGrata 06/25/20 11:45:13 AM #78:	pinky0926 posted... Wow, this is a thing of beauty Radio Free Dixie is a fantastic book about Robert F. Williams and other Civil Rights leaders who were opposite MLK on the whole "nonviolent" thing. --- A.M.A.B. ~The Outlaw Country of Posting~ <cite>FursonaNonGrata posted [p:941236139] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite> <quote>Wow, this is a thing of beauty</quote> Radio Free Dixie is a fantastic book about Robert F. Williams and other Civil Rights leaders who were opposite MLK on the whole "nonviolent" thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FursonaNonGrata 06/25/20 11:49:03 AM #79:	Squall28 posted... The MO and success of these things still mainly stem from nonviolence. Nonviolence is always met with violence from the state. There is literally no argument that can successfully be made against this truth. Calls for nonviolence and nothing else robs marginalized communities of their autonomy and shows that you don't actually care about their liberation. --- A.M.A.B. ~The Outlaw Country of Posting~ <cite>FursonaNonGrata posted [p:941236267] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>The MO and success of these things still mainly stem from nonviolence.</quote> Nonviolence is always met with violence from the state. There is literally no argument that can successfully be made against this truth. Calls for nonviolence and nothing else robs marginalized communities of their autonomy and shows that you don't actually care about their liberation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apocalyptic_4 06/25/20 11:49:20 AM #80:	Its alarming that these people in positions of authority dont view black people as humans and wont hesitate to kill them with no real remorse. And remember this has been a rampant problem for decades we've only seen a glimpse of this behavior thanks to social media and camera phones everywhere. It's a shame no one took this seriously until george Floyd's death. I'm thankful everyday I dont live in America the cops here in Canada arnt nearly as bad. --- XBL: Mrpicardbottoms <cite>apocalyptic_4 posted [p:941236279] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Its alarming that these people in positions of authority dont view black people as humans and wont hesitate to kill them with no real remorse. And remember this has been a rampant problem for decades we've only seen a glimpse of this behavior thanks to social media and camera phones everywhere. It's a shame no one took this seriously until george Floyd's death. I'm thankful everyday I dont live in America the cops here in Canada arnt nearly as bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 06/25/20 11:52:37 AM #81:	apocalyptic_4 posted... Its alarming that these people in positions of authority dont view black people as humans and wont hesitate to kill them with no real remorse. And remember this has been a rampant problem for decades we've only seen a glimpse of this behavior thanks to social media and camera phones everywhere. It's a shame no one took this seriously until george Floyd's death. I'm thankful everyday I dont live in America the cops here in Canada arnt nearly as bad. I live in the UK, and while I wasn't aware of it really being a problem here, I was speaking with a social worker friend who tells me she has to coach her young POC on how they have to deal with cops more carefully. All gotta do some learning. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:941236414] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>apocalyptic_4 posted... </cite> <quote>Its alarming that these people in positions of authority dont view black people as humans and wont hesitate to kill them with no real remorse. And remember this has been a rampant problem for decades we've only seen a glimpse of this behavior thanks to social media and camera phones everywhere. It's a shame no one took this seriously until george Floyd's death. I'm thankful everyday I dont live in America the cops here in Canada arnt nearly as bad.</quote> I live in the UK, and while I wasn't aware of it really being a problem here, I was speaking with a social worker friend who tells me she has to coach her young POC on how they have to deal with cops more carefully. All gotta do some learning. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 06/25/20 11:56:58 AM #82:	For any deniers of systemic racism, these cops are an example of systemic racism. Surely their other colleagues know what kind of people these guys are, yet they've been wearing a badge harboring these kind of thoughts. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:941236599] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>For any deniers of systemic racism, these cops are an example of systemic racism. Surely their other colleagues know what kind of people these guys are, yet they've been wearing a badge harboring these kind of thoughts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sackgurl 06/25/20 12:29:32 PM #83:	worth noting also that MLK's nonviolent protests often included things like boycotts and lawsuits that did real economic damage which forced change --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. <cite>Sackgurl posted [p:941238069] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>worth noting also that MLK's nonviolent protests often included things like boycotts and lawsuits that did real economic damage which forced change </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 06/25/20 12:33:06 PM #84:	apocalyptic_4 posted... Its alarming that these people in positions of authority dont view black people as humans and wont hesitate to kill them with no real remorse. And remember this has been a rampant problem for decades we've only seen a glimpse of this behavior thanks to social media and camera phones everywhere. It's a shame no one took this seriously until george Floyd's death. I'm thankful everyday I dont live in America the cops here in Canada arnt nearly as bad. We did though. As a Saint Louisan I was there for the Michael Brown protests and later the Stockely protests. People took those seriously. They were beaten and teargassed and arrested for it. I think it was the sheer brutality of Floyd's murder and the callous indifference of the cops to the man's suffering all being caught on tape that finally forced people who could just pass shit off as "welp he shouldn't have done [insert crime not punishable by summary execution here]" to really look at things. The cops then meeting peaceful protests with overwhelming brutality certainly pushed even more people to look at the system as a whole. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:941238254] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>apocalyptic_4 posted... </cite> <quote>Its alarming that these people in positions of authority dont view black people as humans and wont hesitate to kill them with no real remorse. And remember this has been a rampant problem for decades we've only seen a glimpse of this behavior thanks to social media and camera phones everywhere. It's a shame no one took this seriously until george Floyd's death. I'm thankful everyday I dont live in America the cops here in Canada arnt nearly as bad.</quote>We did though. As a Saint Louisan I was there for the Michael Brown protests and later the Stockely protests. People took those seriously. They were beaten and teargassed and arrested for it. I think it was the sheer brutality of Floyd's murder and the callous indifference of the cops to the man's suffering all being caught on tape that finally forced people who could just pass shit off as "welp he shouldn't have done [insert crime not punishable by summary execution here]" to really look at things. The cops then meeting peaceful protests with overwhelming brutality certainly pushed even more people to look at the system as a whole. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webbernet 06/25/20 1:56:43 PM #85:	Squall28 posted... Racism comes from tribalism and constantly feeding yourself with bad news about the other tribe. It's the same mechanism that you guys are using are using to hate cops and the wealthy. Race is not special. You just need something to distinguish them as a different group from yours I didnt say republicans or right wingers I just said racists. You straight up defending racism now bro? --- Log on to the Webbernet! <cite>Webbernet posted [p:941242411] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>Racism comes from tribalism and constantly feeding yourself with bad news about the other tribe. It's the same mechanism that you guys are using are using to hate cops and the wealthy. Race is not special. You just need something to distinguish them as a different group from yours</quote> I didnt say republicans or right wingers I just said racists. You straight up defending racism now bro? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlameTurtle 06/25/20 11:33:15 PM #86:	apocalyptic_4 posted... Its alarming that these people in positions of authority dont view black people as humans and wont hesitate to kill them with no real remorse. Taharqa_ posted... For any deniers of systemic racism, these cops are an example of systemic racism. Surely their other colleagues know what kind of people these guys are, yet they've been wearing a badge harboring these kind of thoughts. Thats unfair, they were only cops for 20 plus years. Im sure that they kept these thoughts separated from their work and never let it influence their decisions. --- Updated Prediction for the 2020 election: https://www.270towin.com/maps/xGWGg <cite>FlameTurtle posted [p:941269639] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>apocalyptic_4 posted... </cite> <quote>Its alarming that these people in positions of authority dont view black people as humans and wont hesitate to kill them with no real remorse.</quote>Taharqa_ posted... </cite> <quote>For any deniers of systemic racism, these cops are an example of systemic racism. Surely their other colleagues know what kind of people these guys are, yet they've been wearing a badge harboring these kind of thoughts.</quote>Thats unfair, they were only cops for 20 plus years. Im sure that they kept these thoughts separated from their work and never let it influence their decisions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiegoSanchez206 06/26/20 10:48:16 AM #87:	Taharqa_ posted... For any deniers of systemic racism, these cops are an example of systemic racism. Surely their other colleagues know what kind of people these guys are, yet they've been wearing a badge harboring these kind of thoughts. Obviously not because his supervisor just found out and cut their asses. People can be closer racists and only come out when they meet people with the same tendencies --- https://tinyurl.com/y838ue3p https://youtu.be/IRqr8X6w6bo <cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted [p:941285666] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted... </cite> <quote>For any deniers of systemic racism, these cops are an example of systemic racism. Surely their other colleagues know what kind of people these guys are, yet they've been wearing a badge harboring these kind of thoughts.</quote>Obviously not because his supervisor just found out and cut their asses. People can be closer racists and only come out when they meet people with the same tendencies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 06/26/20 11:40:19 AM #88:	DiegoSanchez206 posted... Obviously not because his supervisor just found out and cut their asses. People can be closer racists and only come out when they meet people with the same tendencies Or it just became public so the supervisor threw them under the bus, so to speak --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:941287871] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>DiegoSanchez206 posted... </cite> <quote>Obviously not because his supervisor just found out and cut their asses. People can be closer racists and only come out when they meet people with the same tendencies</quote>Or it just became public so the supervisor threw them under the bus, so to speak </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiegoSanchez206 06/26/20 1:18:30 PM #89:	TheGoldenEel posted... Or it just became public so the supervisor threw them under the bus, so to speak It became public because of the supervisor. He was the one that found it. Not the public. --- https://tinyurl.com/y838ue3p https://youtu.be/IRqr8X6w6bo <cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted [p:941292574] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted... </cite> <quote>Or it just became public so the supervisor threw them under the bus, so to speak</quote>It became public because of the supervisor. He was the one that found it. Not the public. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 06/26/20 1:36:35 PM #90:	DiegoSanchez206 posted... It became public because of the supervisor. He was the one that found it. Not the public. But is the supervisor the only person in the "system"? (For you to state there isn't any systemic racism in this police force) <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:941293360] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>DiegoSanchez206 posted... </cite> <quote>It became public because of the supervisor. He was the one that found it. Not the public.</quote> But is the supervisor the only person in the "system"? (For you to state there isn't any systemic racism in this police force) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 06/26/20 2:02:01 PM #91:	ScazarMeltex posted... You do realize that King believed that understood that violence was part of the process as well? Spend some time reading his writings, his letters, his speeches. The people in power want you to believe that you can get a boot off of your neck by asking nicely, because when you ask nicely they can ignore you. That's why they teach you shit like "MLK and Ghandi were peaceful" It doesn't fucking work that way and never has. There were plenty of militant groups that worked with King's movement and protected the activists. Look up the Deacons for Defense and Justice. They were the ones who stopped the Jonesboro Klan from burning anymore crosses. How? They had black servants put leaflets in the homes of their white employers stating that they would kill anyone who burned a cross. The cross burnings stopped. They and groups like them were the ones who enforced locally the achievements that King accomplished nationally. Or did you really believe that once things we desegregated and jim crow laws overturned that the struggle was over and the locals just went along with it? It wasn't over and the local whites and their cop enforcers didn't go along with it. Groups like the Deacons for Defense made sure they did. Had the labor movement been led by people with your mindset (cowards) we'd all still be working 80 hours a week with children as our co-workers in wildly unsafe conditions with no OSHA or workmen's comp. What you want is peace and civility so you can ignore it because you aren't part of the group being targeted by the cops. Why should people sit by and peacefully accept extrajudicial executions of their family, friends, and fellow citizens. So you won't be inconvienced? Why should they be forced to take beatings from the cops to appease your appeal for peaceful change? Why should they take being gassed without fighting back so you can smugly claim they took the moral high ground, from the safety of your computer, even though it accomplished nothing. EDIT: Your statement that people sided with MLK because the violence was so one-sided is fucking ridiculous and has no basis in history. When he was murdered his approval rating amongst the public was 75% negative. He was wilded hated by the overwhelming majority of people in this country. STOP FUCKING TALKING ABOUT SHIT YOU DON'T KNOW OR UNDERSTAND. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/why-martin-luther-king-had-75-percent-disapproval-rating-year-he-died-180968664/ Read this and please for the love of god shut the fuck up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKqrV79StXw --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:941294415] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>You do realize that King believed that understood that violence was part of the process as well? Spend some time reading his writings, his letters, his speeches. The people in power want you to believe that you can get a boot off of your neck by asking nicely, because when you ask nicely they can ignore you. That's why they teach you shit like "MLK and Ghandi were peaceful" It doesn't fucking work that way and never has. There were plenty of militant groups that worked with King's movement and protected the activists. Look up the Deacons for Defense and Justice. They were the ones who stopped the Jonesboro Klan from burning anymore crosses. How? They had black servants put leaflets in the homes of their white employers stating that they would kill anyone who burned a cross. The cross burnings stopped. They and groups like them were the ones who enforced locally the achievements that King accomplished nationally. Or did you really believe that once things we desegregated and jim crow laws overturned that the struggle was over and the locals just went along with it? It wasn't over and the local whites and their cop enforcers didn't go along with it. Groups like the Deacons for Defense made sure they did. Had the labor movement been led by people with your mindset (cowards) we'd all still be working 80 hours a week with children as our co-workers in wildly unsafe conditions with no OSHA or workmen's comp. What you want is peace and civility so you can ignore it because you aren't part of the group being targeted by the cops. Why should people sit by and peacefully accept extrajudicial executions of their family, friends, and fellow citizens. So you won't be inconvienced? Why should they be forced to take beatings from the cops to appease your appeal for peaceful change? Why should they take being gassed without fighting back so you can smugly claim they took the moral high ground, from the safety of your computer, even though it accomplished nothing. EDIT: Your statement that people sided with MLK because the violence was so one-sided is fucking ridiculous and has no basis in history. When he was murdered his approval rating amongst the public was 75% negative. He was wilded hated by the overwhelming majority of people in this country. STOP FUCKING TALKING ABOUT SHIT YOU DON'T KNOW OR UNDERSTAND. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/why-martin-luther-king-had-75-percent-disapproval-rating-year-he-died-180968664/ Read this and please for the love of god shut the fuck up.</quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKqrV79StXw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kisai 06/26/20 2:04:29 PM #92:	pinky0926 posted... Interestingly enough I discovered this morning that the man with the reportedly highest IQ in the world (something like 200) is a conspiracy theorist nutbag who has spent most of his life working as a bouncer and frequently posts about the dangers of interracial marriage and "white genocide". Turns out being smart doesn't excuse you either. Implying IQ means anything. It's kinda been proven it means nothing. --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? <cite>Kisai posted [p:941294526] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite> <quote>Interestingly enough I discovered this morning that the man with the reportedly highest IQ in the world (something like 200) is a conspiracy theorist nutbag who has spent most of his life working as a bouncer and frequently posts about the dangers of interracial marriage and "white genocide". Turns out being smart doesn't excuse you either.</quote>Implying IQ means anything. It's kinda been proven it means nothing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 06/26/20 2:09:54 PM #93:	"if multiple sources of evidence lead you to the same conclusion, obviously the sources are biased" <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:941294833] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>"if multiple sources of evidence lead you to the same conclusion, obviously the sources are biased" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiegoSanchez206 06/26/20 3:40:34 PM #94:	Ruvan22 posted... But is the supervisor the only person in the "system"? (For you to state there isn't any systemic racism in this police force) I stated that they could be closet racists and found comfort with people that could shared the same queues. clearly theyre not going about saying these things freely otherwise they would have been fired. --- https://tinyurl.com/y838ue3p https://youtu.be/IRqr8X6w6bo <cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted [p:941299066] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>But is the supervisor the only person in the "system"? (For you to state there isn't any systemic racism in this police force)</quote>I stated that they could be closet racists and found comfort with people that could shared the same queues. clearly theyre not going about saying these things freely otherwise they would have been fired. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 06/26/20 3:45:01 PM #95:	DiegoSanchez206 posted... I stated that they could be closet racists and found comfort with people that could shared the same queues. clearly theyre not going about saying these things freely otherwise they would have been fired. "undefined posted... For any deniers of systemic racism, these cops are an example of systemic racism. Surely their other colleagues know what kind of people these guys are, yet they've been wearing a badge harboring these kind of thoughts. Obviously not because his supervisor just found out and cut their asses. People can be closer racists and only come out when they meet people with the same tendencies" You didn't state that here, instead you said "obviously not". What are are refuting here? That systemic racism exists? Or that other cops know these officers beliefs? Or something else completely? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:941299270] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>DiegoSanchez206 posted... </cite> <quote>I stated that they could be closet racists and found comfort with people that could shared the same queues. clearly theyre not going about saying these things freely otherwise they would have been fired.</quote> "undefined posted... </cite> <quote>For any deniers of systemic racism, these cops are an example of systemic racism. Surely their other colleagues know what kind of people these guys are, yet they've been wearing a badge harboring these kind of thoughts.</quote>Obviously not because his supervisor just found out and cut their asses. People can be closer racists and only come out when they meet people with the same tendencies" You didn't state that here, instead you said "obviously not". What are are refuting here? That systemic racism exists? Or that other cops know these officers beliefs? Or something else completely? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiegoSanchez206 06/27/20 12:09:36 AM #96:	Ruvan22 posted... " Obviously not because his supervisor just found out and cut their asses. People can be closer racists and only come out when they meet people with the same tendencies" You didn't state that here, instead you said "obviously not". What are are refuting here? That systemic racism exists? Or that other cops know these officers beliefs? Or something else completely? That there isnt systemic racism in that police department. The leadership doesnt condone, it obviously. A few people that are dipshits do not represent their whole organization. The organization found out. Not the public. The organization sent them packing. This was completely internal from the leadership. Leadership saw bad apples and didnt want to protect them. I have no idea why have to describe it in this much detail. Not sure how you are going to try and move the goal posts or play mental gymnastics on this. --- https://tinyurl.com/y838ue3p https://youtu.be/IRqr8X6w6bo <cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted [p:941321747] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>" Obviously not because his supervisor just found out and cut their asses. People can be closer racists and only come out when they meet people with the same tendencies" You didn't state that here, instead you said "obviously not". What are are refuting here? That systemic racism exists? Or that other cops know these officers beliefs? Or something else completely?</quote> That there isnt systemic racism in that police department. The leadership doesnt condone, it obviously. A few people that are dipshits do not represent their whole organization. The organization found out. Not the public. The organization sent them packing. This was completely internal from the leadership. Leadership saw bad apples and didnt want to protect them. I have no idea why have to describe it in this much detail. Not sure how you are going to try and move the goal posts or play mental gymnastics on this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 06/27/20 12:28:55 AM #97:	DiegoSanchez206 posted... That there isnt systemic racism in that police department. The leadership doesnt condone, it obviously. A few people that are dipshits do not represent their whole organization. The organization found out. Not the public. The organization sent them packing. This was completely internal from the leadership. Leadership saw bad apples and didnt want to protect them. I have no idea why have to describe it in this much detail. Not sure how you are going to try and move the goal posts or play mental gymnastics on this. Seems like you moved the goalposts to define the system as just the captain - which was the point of the first post you responded to. All the other police officers weren't aware of these two "bad apples"? They'd been there years, and nobody else called them out on their behavior? I have no idea why I have to break down basic grammar and logic for you. <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:941322412] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>DiegoSanchez206 posted... </cite> <quote>That there isnt systemic racism in that police department. The leadership doesnt condone, it obviously. A few people that are dipshits do not represent their whole organization. The organization found out. Not the public. The organization sent them packing. This was completely internal from the leadership. Leadership saw bad apples and didnt want to protect them. I have no idea why have to describe it in this much detail. Not sure how you are going to try and move the goal posts or play mental gymnastics on this.</quote> Seems like you moved the goalposts to define the system as just the captain - which was the point of the first post you responded to. All the other police officers weren't aware of these two "bad apples"? They'd been there years, and nobody else called them out on their behavior? I have no idea why I have to break down basic grammar and logic for you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiegoSanchez206 06/27/20 12:33:22 AM #98:	Ruvan22 posted... Seems like you moved the goalposts to define the system as just the captain - which was the point of the first post you responded to. All the other police officers weren't aware of these two "bad apples"? They'd been there years, and nobody else called them out on their behavior? I have no idea why I have to break down basic grammar and logic for you. I see you cant read and dont know what a closet racist is. Youre just assuming everyone knew everything. --- https://tinyurl.com/y838ue3p https://youtu.be/IRqr8X6w6bo <cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted [p:941322569] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>Seems like you moved the goalposts to define the system as just the captain - which was the point of the first post you responded to. All the other police officers weren't aware of these two "bad apples"? They'd been there years, and nobody else called them out on their behavior? I have no idea why I have to break down basic grammar and logic for you.</quote> I see you cant read and dont know what a closet racist is. Youre just assuming everyone knew everything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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indica 06/27/20 1:01:19 AM #100:	UnfairRepresent posted... IQ is meaningless nonsense and it's hilarious that people think it can be used to quantify intelligence And it's usually framed in racial bias --- There is no good. There is no evil. There just is. <cite>indica posted [p:941323391] in 3 wilmingt... [t:78801459]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>IQ is meaningless nonsense and it's hilarious that people think it can be used to quantify intelligence</quote>And it's usually framed in racial bias </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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