Current Events > Should refugee defend their countries rather than fleeing to other country?

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AntiNoob 06/23/20 1:44:36 PM #1:	Before i started this discussion, i would like to inform that i have neutral view here Now discuss <cite>AntiNoob posted [p:941132603] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Before i started this discussion, i would like to inform that i have neutral view here Now discuss </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 06/23/20 1:45:45 PM #2:	What's a "neutral view" with regards to refugees? --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:941132685] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>What's a "neutral view" with regards to refugees? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AntiNoob 06/23/20 1:48:17 PM #3:	Doom_Art posted... What's a "neutral view" with regards to refugees? No support or opposition against refugee policy <cite>AntiNoob posted [p:941132829] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>What's a "neutral view" with regards to refugees?</quote>No support or opposition against refugee policy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 06/23/20 1:55:45 PM #4:	Their first devotion is always to their lives. If their country is threatening their lives, it can get fucked. --- So much for the Toblerone left. <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:941133241] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Their first devotion is always to their lives. If their country is threatening their lives, it can get fucked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 06/23/20 1:56:15 PM #5:	AntiNoob posted... No support or opposition against refugee policy This is not a neutral stance --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:941133265] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>AntiNoob posted... </cite> <quote>No support or opposition against refugee policy</quote>This is not a neutral stance </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FursonaNonGrata 06/23/20 1:56:22 PM #6:	Doom_Art posted... What's a "neutral view" with regards to refugees? Creating a topic as troll bait --- A.M.A.B. ~The Outlaw Country of Posting~ <cite>FursonaNonGrata posted [p:941133274] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>What's a "neutral view" with regards to refugees?</quote> Creating a topic as troll bait </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AntiNoob 06/23/20 2:11:56 PM #8:	ASithLord7 posted... This is not a neutral stance It is, it means status quo. <cite>AntiNoob posted [p:941134089] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>ASithLord7 posted... </cite> <quote>This is not a neutral stance</quote>It is, it means status quo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/23/20 2:15:14 PM #9:	If your country sucks, the right to leave should always exist. However, there shouldn't be an obligation for an arbitrary country to take you in. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:941134280] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>If your country sucks, the right to leave should always exist. However, there shouldn't be an obligation for an arbitrary country to take you in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 06/23/20 2:16:30 PM #10:	conservatives: if you don't like it, leave!!! also conservatives: look at those cowards leaving instead of making their shithole country a better place <cite>Reis posted [p:941134346] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>conservatives: if you don't like it, leave!!! also conservatives: look at those cowards leaving instead of making their shithole country a better place </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 06/23/20 2:17:30 PM #11:	Yup. --- 2 to the 1 from the 1 to the 3, a fitting end for a monster like me. <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:941134394] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Yup. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 06/23/20 2:18:06 PM #12:	The forces running the country is often way too powerful and the fleeing people also often have families to look after. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:941134426] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>The forces running the country is often way too powerful and the fleeing people also often have families to look after. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paper_Okami 06/23/20 2:19:18 PM #14:	shockthemonkey posted... Well my entire family will be murdered but at least I wont inconvenience any American sensibilities on what I should have done especially since America usually caused the problems in their countries lmao --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:941134488] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>Well my entire family will be murdered but at least I wont inconvenience any American sensibilities on what I should have done</quote> especially since America usually caused the problems in their countries lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 06/23/20 2:20:15 PM #16:	Solar_Crimson posted... The forces running the country is often way too powerful and the fleeing people also often have families to look after. Yet most of the refugees during the crisis were single working age men, not parents fleeing with their children. --- 2 to the 1 from the 1 to the 3, a fitting end for a monster like me. <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:941134542] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>The forces running the country is often way too powerful and the fleeing people also often have families to look after.</quote>Yet most of the refugees during the crisis were single working age men, not parents fleeing with their children. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Firewerx 06/23/20 2:21:53 PM #17:	ZeroX91 posted... Yet most of the refugees during the crisis Which crisis? --- Watching the shadows burn <cite>Firewerx posted [p:941134638] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>ZeroX91 posted... </cite> <quote>Yet most of the refugees during the crisis</quote>Which crisis? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Iodine 06/23/20 2:22:37 PM #19:	It is precisely because they can't defend their country that they are forced to flee. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:941134693] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>It is precisely because they can't defend their country that they are forced to flee. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 06/23/20 2:23:36 PM #20:	Refugees are just people who want better lives and want to live peacefully. I personally think my country should let people like that join us because it makes us stronger and better. --- No Venezuelan fishermen ever called me a Bernie Bro. <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:941134756] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Refugees are just people who want better lives and want to live peacefully. I personally think my country should let people like that join us because it makes us stronger and better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 06/23/20 2:23:39 PM #21:	Reis posted... conservatives: if you don't like it, leave!!! Damn right. ('-' ) If they don't like it here or at least assimilate with our culture then they can pack up their shit and fuck right off to where they came from. also conservatives: look at those cowards leaving instead of making their shithole country a better place Yup. There's some refugees that contribute nothing of value, and lower property values by committing crimes against their own as well as American citizens. They had the balls do their tantrums here, but not back home, huh? Fuck outta here. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:941134762] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Reis posted... </cite> <quote>conservatives: if you don't like it, leave!!!</quote> Damn right. ('-' ) If they don't like it here or at least assimilate with our culture then they can pack up their shit and fuck right off to where they came from. <quote>also conservatives: look at those cowards leaving instead of making their shithole country a better place</quote> Yup. There's some refugees that contribute nothing of value, and lower property values by committing crimes against their own as well as American citizens. They had the balls do their tantrums here, but not back home, huh? Fuck outta here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Firewerx 06/23/20 2:24:12 PM #22:	Iodine posted... It is precisely because they can't defend their country that they are forced to flee. And sometimes it's because they're treated as an enemy population by their own country. --- Watching the shadows burn <cite>Firewerx posted [p:941134790] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Iodine posted... </cite> <quote>It is precisely because they can't defend their country that they are forced to flee.</quote>And sometimes it's because they're treated as an enemy population by their own country. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FursonaNonGrata 06/23/20 2:25:26 PM #23:	Theres no white supremacist ideology on CE --- A.M.A.B. ~The Outlaw Country of Posting~ <cite>FursonaNonGrata posted [p:941134868] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Theres no white supremacist ideology on CE </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 06/23/20 2:26:59 PM #24:	shockthemonkey posted... So are you sexist or is there some other reason you want to use the fact that theyre men to downplay their need to escape? Barring being gay (you know because ME and Africa) if you dont have a family to take care of yea you should be staying and trying to make your homeland a better place. Yes the pilgrims were punk ass bitches. --- 2 to the 1 from the 1 to the 3, a fitting end for a monster like me. <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:941134957] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>So are you sexist or is there some other reason you want to use the fact that theyre men to downplay their need to escape?</quote>Barring being gay (you know because ME and Africa) if you dont have a family to take care of yea you should be staying and trying to make your homeland a better place. Yes the pilgrims were punk ass bitches. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 06/23/20 2:28:14 PM #25:	Vicious_Dios posted... Damn right. ('-' ) If they don't like it here or at least assimilate with our culture then they can pack up their shit and fuck right off to where they came from. Yup. There's some refugees that contribute nothingbof value, and lower property values by committing crimes against their own as well as American citizens. They had the balls do their tantrums here, but not back home, huh? Fuck outta here. Oooooooof. Fuck right outta here --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:941135033] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Vicious_Dios posted... </cite> <quote>Damn right. ('-' ) If they don't like it here or at least assimilate with our culture then they can pack up their shit and fuck right off to where they came from. Yup. There's some refugees that contribute nothingbof value, and lower property values by committing crimes against their own as well as American citizens. They had the balls do their tantrums here, but not back home, huh? Fuck outta here.</quote>Oooooooof. Fuck right outta here </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenState 06/23/20 2:28:22 PM #26:	"if you dont like it then you should leave" re: progressives trying to improve america then "should refugees die instead of seeking something better?" --- Frank Gore HOF <cite>TheGoldenState posted [p:941135042] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>"if you dont like it then you should leave" re: progressives trying to improve america then "should refugees die instead of seeking something better?" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 06/23/20 2:28:28 PM #27:	ZeroX91 posted... Barring being gay (you know because ME and Africa) if you dont have a family to take care of yea you should be staying and trying to make your homeland a better place. Yes the pilgrims were punk ass bitches. Youre just full of dumb fucking takes today arent you --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:941135043] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>ZeroX91 posted... </cite> <quote>Barring being gay (you know because ME and Africa) if you dont have a family to take care of yea you should be staying and trying to make your homeland a better place. Yes the pilgrims were punk ass bitches.</quote>Youre just full of dumb fucking takes today arent you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shablagoo 06/23/20 2:29:38 PM #29:	ZeroX91 posted... lmao this the most ridiculously bad post I ever seen on gfaqs --- No Venezuelan fishermen ever called me a Bernie Bro. <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:941135114] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>ZeroX91 posted... </cite> <quote> </quote> lmao this the most ridiculously bad post I ever seen on gfaqs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 06/23/20 2:30:43 PM #30:	ASithLord7 posted... Youre just full of dumb fucking takes today arent you What you want them to become worse places to live? The only thing nessicary for evil to triumph if for good men to do nothing. --- 2 to the 1 from the 1 to the 3, a fitting end for a monster like me. <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:941135176] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>ASithLord7 posted... </cite> <quote>Youre just full of dumb fucking takes today arent you</quote>What you want them to become worse places to live? The only thing nessicary for evil to triumph if for good men to do nothing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/23/20 2:31:16 PM #31:	Reis posted... also conservatives: look at those cowards leaving instead of making their shithole country a better place Also also conservatives: lol, France. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:941135216] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Reis posted... </cite> <quote>also conservatives: look at those cowards leaving instead of making their shithole country a better place</quote>Also also conservatives: lol, France. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 06/23/20 2:31:31 PM #32:	ZeroX91 posted... What you want them to become worse places to live? The only thing nessicary for evil to triumph if for good men to do nothing. Why dont you go help out, then? --- No Venezuelan fishermen ever called me a Bernie Bro. <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:941135224] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>ZeroX91 posted... </cite> <quote>What you want them to become worse places to live? The only thing nessicary for evil to triumph if for good men to do nothing.</quote> Why dont you go help out, then? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 06/23/20 2:32:10 PM #33:	ASithLord7 posted... Oooooooof. Fuck right outta here Not an argument. Thank you for your attempt at participating. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:941135250] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>ASithLord7 posted... </cite> <quote>Oooooooof. Fuck right outta here</quote> Not an argument. Thank you for your attempt at participating. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FursonaNonGrata 06/23/20 2:32:43 PM #34:	Put the crack pipe down buddy --- A.M.A.B. ~The Outlaw Country of Posting~ <cite>FursonaNonGrata posted [p:941135283] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Put the crack pipe down buddy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 06/23/20 2:32:50 PM #35:	It depends on the situation. Citizens aren't often prepared or equipped to collectively deal with widespread famine or war in their own countries. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:941135287] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>It depends on the situation. Citizens aren't often prepared or equipped to collectively deal with widespread famine or war in their own countries. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 06/23/20 2:32:52 PM #36:	Shablagoo posted... Why dont you go help out, then? Not my fight, only makes things worse. Look at Americas track record. --- 2 to the 1 from the 1 to the 3, a fitting end for a monster like me. <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:941135290] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>Why dont you go help out, then?</quote>Not my fight, only makes things worse. Look at Americas track record. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/23/20 2:32:54 PM #37:	"Don't like it? Leave, unless you're fleeing an oppressive hellscape." --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:941135292] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>"Don't like it? Leave, unless you're fleeing an oppressive hellscape." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 06/23/20 2:34:11 PM #38:	Vicious_Dios posted... Not an argument. Thank you for your attempt at participating. Your argument isn't really an argument, and doesn't warrant a real one in return. --- formerly evening formerly guide https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:941135368] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Vicious_Dios posted... </cite> <quote>Not an argument. Thank you for your attempt at participating.</quote> Your argument isn't really an argument, and doesn't warrant a real one in return. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gikos 06/23/20 2:34:47 PM #39:	ZeroX91 posted... What you want them to become worse places to live? The only thing nessicary for evil to triumph if for good men to do nothing. easy for you to say since you just want other people to risk their lives and die and not bother surviving ''just cuz'' right for that matter how willing to fight will you be when it happens to you surly you will live by your motto and fight --- "You can pretend to be serious; you can't pretend to be witty." - Sacha Guitry (1885-1957) <cite>gikos posted [p:941135396] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>ZeroX91 posted... </cite> <quote>What you want them to become worse places to live? The only thing nessicary for evil to triumph if for good men to do nothing.</quote>easy for you to say since you just want other people to risk their lives and die and not bother surviving ''just cuz'' right for that matter how willing to fight will you be when it happens to you surly you will live by your motto and fight </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Firewerx 06/23/20 2:35:20 PM #40:	FursonaNonGrata posted... Theres no white supremacist ideology on CE Though we do have some assholes who probably live the whole of their comfortable lives in nice, safe suburbs barricaded behind the cosy security of laws, freedoms and rights, and who never had to fight over anything more than a parking space, having the fucking gall to lecture vulnerable civilians on their supposed cowardice for not standing up against armies or militias. --- Watching the shadows burn <cite>Firewerx posted [p:941135419] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>FursonaNonGrata posted... </cite> <quote>Theres no white supremacist ideology on CE</quote>Though we do have some assholes who probably live the whole of their comfortable lives in nice, safe suburbs barricaded behind the cosy security of laws, freedoms and rights, and who never had to fight over anything more than a parking space, having the fucking gall to lecture vulnerable civilians on their supposed cowardice for not standing up against armies or militias. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 06/23/20 2:36:11 PM #41:	Vicious_Dios posted... Damn right. ('-' ) If they don't like it here or at least assimilate with our culture then they can pack up their shit and fuck right off to where they came from. Yup. There's some refugees that contribute nothing of value, and lower property values by committing crimes against their own as well as American citizens. They had the balls do their tantrums here, but not back home, huh? Fuck outta here. lmao look how mad this kid is <cite>Reis posted [p:941135452] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Vicious_Dios posted... </cite> <quote>Damn right. ('-' ) If they don't like it here or at least assimilate with our culture then they can pack up their shit and fuck right off to where they came from. Yup. There's some refugees that contribute nothing of value, and lower property values by committing crimes against their own as well as American citizens. They had the balls do their tantrums here, but not back home, huh? Fuck outta here.</quote> lmao look how mad this kid is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaradaUchihaXXX 06/23/20 2:37:34 PM #43:	Yes <cite>SaradaUchihaXXX posted [p:941135532] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Yes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 06/23/20 2:37:58 PM #44:	Guide posted... Your argument isn't really an argument, and doesn't warrant a real one in return. What Ill fund people, international intervention reason the whole of the Middle East and Africa are in the state they currently are in. A bunch of lines drawn on a map by people who didnt know or care about the people in said reigons. Lasting postive change has to come from within and takes time. --- 2 to the 1 from the 1 to the 3, a fitting end for a monster like me. <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:941135546] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote> Your argument isn't really an argument, and doesn't warrant a real one in return.</quote>What Ill fund people, international intervention reason the whole of the Middle East and Africa are in the state they currently are in. A bunch of lines drawn on a map by people who didnt know or care about the people in said reigons. Lasting postive change has to come from within and takes time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZeroX91 06/23/20 2:41:12 PM #46:	shockthemonkey posted... Why am I not surprised that someone with such poorly thought out ideas also cant spell necessary? Not an arguement --- 2 to the 1 from the 1 to the 3, a fitting end for a monster like me. <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:941135732] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>Why am I not surprised that someone with such poorly thought out ideas also cant spell necessary?</quote>Not an arguement </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HagenEx 06/23/20 2:42:42 PM #48:	No. Refugees should look for ways to improve their quality of life, and that of their family members. If the only way to do that is to leave your homeland and seek a future elsewhere, then that is what they must do. They don't owe their country ANYTHING. This is coming from someone who still lives in the country with the biggest migration crisis of modern times, and it's not even about war. Just a failed pseudo-socialist authoritarian state that destroyed millions of lives during the past 20 years. --- Not changing this sig until The Big Dawg Roman Reigns beats cancer and wins back the Universal Title. Belee Dat! <cite>HagenEx posted [p:941135816] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>No. Refugees should look for ways to improve their quality of life, and that of their family members. If the only way to do that is to leave your homeland and seek a future elsewhere, then that is what they must do. They don't owe their country ANYTHING. This is coming from someone who still lives in the country with the biggest migration crisis of modern times, and it's not even about war. Just a failed pseudo-socialist authoritarian state that destroyed millions of lives during the past 20 years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Firewerx 06/23/20 2:43:37 PM #50:	So, just how many of you ballsy Internet heroes will resolve to keep living in a bad neighbourhood and take on the gangs single-handedly, to make them better places to live -- as opposed to just moving out to a better neighbourhood? --- Watching the shadows burn <cite>Firewerx posted [p:941135859] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>So, just how many of you ballsy Internet heroes will resolve to keep living in a bad neighbourhood and take on the gangs single-handedly, to make them better places to live -- as opposed to just moving out to a better neighbourhood? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/23/20 2:44:53 PM #51:	Firewerx posted... So, just how many of you ballsy Internet heroes will resolve to keep living in a bad neighbourhood and take on the gangs single-handedly, to make them better places to live -- as opposed to just moving out to a better neighbourhood? Who's opposed to that, like at all? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:941135934] in Should ref... [t:78796690]...</cite> <quote>Firewerx posted... </cite> <quote>So, just how many of you ballsy Internet heroes will resolve to keep living in a bad neighbourhood and take on the gangs single-handedly, to make them better places to live -- as opposed to just moving out to a better neighbourhood?</quote>Who's opposed to that, like at all? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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