Current Events > Covid19 deaths are decreasing in the United States.

(+) Yeah! (+)

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Someone could be fudging the data

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For now...

Even the states that supposedly are surging in Covid19..
Florida, California, Arizona... the deaths have stagnated




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But media keeps saying Texas, Florida, and Arizona is surging. Are they wrong to fear monger? If deaths low.

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Any real info?

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BlueTigerLion posted...

But media keeps saying Texas, Florida, and Arizona is surging. Are they wrong to fear monger? If deaths low.

They are surging, but that will mostly mean that deaths will increase there in another week or so, especially if ICUs fill up (which they already have in some areas)

no were fucked

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LastTomorrow posted...

Someone could be fudging the data

That's fair, but if the news is not basing it on the data. then what are they basing it on?

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BlueTigerLion posted...

But media keeps saying Texas, Florida, and Arizona is surging. Are they wrong to fear monger? If deaths low.

People dont die instantly from it though. If its new cases we'd have to wait a few weeks to see the change

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I went through every single state and the only one that can be interpreted as having an upward trend is Nebraska, but the amount of cases is very low. We're talking about a graph limit of 25 people.


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I4NRulez posted...

People dont die instantly from it though. If its new cases we'd have to wait a few weeks to see the change

How long does it typically take for someone to die from covid?
I'm trying to find info on that and I can't seem to find anything

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seqntenialbeast posted...

That's fair, but if the news is not basing it on the data. then what are they basing it on?

They're basing it on new cases per day and hospitalizations, from what I've seen.

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Ok, feel free to criticize me, but if it really is the case that new cases will reflect new deaths, just delayed several weeks later , how do you explain these graphs?



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seqntenialbeast posted...

How long does it typically take for someone to die from covid?
I'm trying to find info on that and I can't seem to find anything

Among those who die, the final outcome can come as quickly as two weeks after symptoms start, or up to eight weeks later. Add a possible 14-day incubation period, and the longest likely scenario, then, is 10 total weeks from the time of infection to a persons death.

deaths in California increase from March to April, then stagnated from April to now, despite the cases constantly increasing every week.

The data does not support the hypothesis at all. That the death graph reflects the new case graph, just delayed by several weeks. There is no evidence to suggest this.

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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

Among those who die, the final outcome can come as quickly as two weeks after symptoms start, or up to eight weeks later. Add a possible 14-day incubation period, and the longest likely scenario, then, is 10 total weeks from the time of infection to a persons death.

how far into the disease is the typical new case? and why does the data until now not match what you are saying. Why are the deaths following the new cases graph, shifted by several weeks.

Very strange

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seqntenialbeast posted...

how far into the disease is the typical new case? and why does the data until now not match what you are saying. Why are the deaths following the new cases graph, shifted by several weeks.

Very strange

I don't know, other than my guess is that in the beginning, we had a ventilator shortage, but have managed to stock up.

look out guys, gamefaqs user #4358713 is hot on the trail of the conspiracy

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Error1355 posted...

look out guys, gamefaqs user #4358713 is hot on the trail of the conspiracy

what conspiracy? That the new cases metric is worth almost nothing?

The death graph is more valuable.

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It might be mutating into a weaker strain like the other pandemics we had (SARS, H1N1 etc) where the strong strain kills the people and dies with them and the weaker forms that don't kill people live on and mutate.

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REMercsChamp posted...

It might be mutating into a weaker strain like the other pandemics we had (SARS, H1N1 etc) where the strong strain kills the people and dies with them and the weaker forms that don't kill people live on and mutate.

that would be great news if true, but I feel like if the strain changed, doctors would know about it already

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seqntenialbeast posted...

that would be great news if true, but I feel like if the strain changed, doctors would know about it already

I've heard some reports out of places like Italy saying that this is the case but I'm sure in the next months they'll have a much better picture.

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Hopefully that trend continues.

BlueTigerLion posted...

But media keeps saying Texas, Florida, and Arizona is surging. Are they wrong to fear monger? If deaths low.

New cases come before new deaths.

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The virus has become weaker.

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seqntenialbeast posted...

Ok, feel free to criticize me, but if it really is the case that new cases will reflect new deaths, just delayed several weeks later , how do you explain these graphs?

Hopefully that means the virus is mutating into a weaker form over time.

Could also mean that more people who are in a lesser risk group are getting it.

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OP got see FLORIDA-ARIZONA numbers

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Ya'll don't even realize how radically different your existence is gonna be just by the end of this year.

When we're dealing with Covid-19 and the seasonal flu, you're going to have very few freedoms outside your home.

I'm finding like a dozen different graphs, but not yours, tc. Link?

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Joeydollaz posted...

OP got see FLORIDA-ARIZONA numbers

I posted them. Post 6 and 8

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Guide posted...

I'm finding like a dozen different graphs, but not yours, tc. Link?

It's the google graph, I can't link it directly.

This one:


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oh ty ty

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the only bad thing about the graph is it's missing data from 9 states

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New York is where the majority if the deaths are/were. The rest of the states haven't had a New York level spike until recently, and even then, aren't as bad as New York was. (and New Jersey)

Give it a few more weeks before making a claim that the virus's potency has diminished.

Thanks gamefaqs user! Your insightful wisdom is all I need and I shall disregard everything else from this point on.

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Because you know death is the only metric that matters. Covid does horrible things to the body that even if you recover you potentially have to deal with serious long term effects.

But yeah let's only care about hoe many people died.

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QueenCarly posted...

Because you know death is the only metric that matters. Covid does horrible things to the body that even if you recover you potentially have to deal with serious long term effects.

But yeah let's only care about hoe many people died.

deaths not changing would either imply that the real number cases hasn't changed or the virus is getting weaker

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I'm sure a lot of ya'll have parents getting up in age and grandparents too that are susceptible to Covid-19 ...so have a heart and be smart.

Keep yo ass at home.

The death rate will depend on WHO is infected. If the at risk groups arent making up the majority of infected then the death rate should stay relatively low.

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Accept it.

Your everyday life is over until a vaccine is found.

And don't hold out too much hope for that vaccine in the foreseeable future.

The last time we eradicated anything like this was 40 years ago, which was small pox.

small pox ran amuck for generations before then.

This makes sense. As doctors get a better handle on how the virus acts and how to treat it, the mortality rate is naturally going to fall. Just this past week I posted a BBC article about how an extremely cheap, widely available steroid drastically reduces the mortality rate for people on oxygen and for people on ventilators.

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Saxon pls

It's a fact, Jack.

Only diseases to ever be beaten with a vaccine are polio, small pox and TB.

That's not a very good track record compared to the millions of germs that science still has no answer for should you catch it.

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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

Saxon pls

Saxon posted...

Accept it.

Your everyday life is over until a vaccine is found.

And don't hold out too much hope for that vaccine in the foreseeable future.

The last time we eradicated anything like this was 40 years ago, which was small pox.

small pox ran amuck for generations before then.

You're confusing finding a vaccine with eradication.

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The vaccination should more or less cause your life to return to normal, and the world is very pressured to come up with one asap.

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Saxon posted...

Accept it.

Your everyday life is over until a vaccine is found.

And don't hold out too much hope for that vaccine in the foreseeable future.

The last time we eradicated anything like this was 40 years ago, which was small pox.

small pox ran amuck for generations before then.

The better alternative is the Republican one. Let people get sick and return to normal. Most people will be fine, and by most I mean the VAST majority. Keep nursing homes on lockdown, prevent nurses from working in multiple facilities, and cut off the hand of any governor who tries to make executive orders forcing nursing homes to take coronavirus patients.

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It don't matter how much you want find a cure, a cure is always elusive and most of the time it's never found and we simply rely on herd immunity to continue our survival on this planet.