Current Events > All these protestors and rioters better actually vote

(+) Yeah! (+)

And not just in the general election, but local as well.

Otherwise all of this shit will just be for lip service

No politician is gonna care about these protests if the people protesting don't vote

LOL they won't

---

Republicans are doing their best to ensure they won't be able
---

The protests did so much more in a couple weeks than voting did their entire lives.

---

Comfy_Pillow posted...

And not just in the general election, but local as well.

Otherwise all of this shit will just be for lip service

No politician is gonna care about these protests if the people protesting don't vote

Obama didn't even give Occupy a chance to vote before coordinating the violent crackdown.

Also, it would probably be helpful if the Democratic candidate wasn't a leading architect of the way the country is now.

1337toothbrush posted...

The protests did so much more in a couple weeks than voting did their entire lives.

Nothing has been accomplished though

Mn's new council thing is probably the biggest but even they don't know how it's gonna work.

Everything else is just a promise so far

i mean, i hope they do too, but these protests have made a change. The ball is finally moving. Slowly, but no one expected it overnight...These people are doing good. Don't try to take that good away just because they don't vote.

---

Comfy_Pillow posted...

Nothing has been accomplished though

Mn's new council thing is probably the biggest but even they don't know how it's gonna work.

Everything else is just a promise so far

and yet, more has been accomplished than through voting. Do you honestly think these problems began and will end with Trump? These issues have been around for decades and we've been in this downward slope for a long time. Clinton and Obama didn't change shit.

---

VipaGTS posted...

i mean, i hope they do too, but these protests have made a change. The ball is finally moving. Slowly, but no one expected it overnight...These people are doing good. Don't try to take that good away just because they don't vote.

What's actually been done that can't just be undone if none of them vote

1337toothbrush posted...

and yet, more has been accomplished than through voting

But that's not true unless they vote and hold the politicians accountable

Comfy_Pillow posted...

What's actually been done that can't just be undone if none of them vote

Public influence and social change. it doesn't happen merely by voting. you need to make it the norm. You need to make the idea the popular idea. Its finally getting to that point.

---

ElatedVenusaur posted...

Obama didn't even give Occupy a chance to vote before coordinating the violent crackdown.

Also, it would probably be helpful if the Democratic candidate wasn't a leading architect of the way the country is now.

Damn who knew Biden was a founding father. You'd think they would campaign harder on that.

---

Comfy_Pillow posted...

But that's not true unless they vote and hold the politicians accountable

Politicians being held accountable? What planet are you living on?

---

VipaGTS posted...

Public influence and social change. it doesn't happen merely by voting. you need to make it the norm. You need to make the idea the popular idea. Its finally getting to that point.

But no policy maker is gonna care if the majority of voters are old people that don't care about police reform

Sure, go vote. But keep protesting because no matter who you vote for in November, or in your local elections, they won't do shit until you force them to do shit.
---

1337toothbrush posted...

Politicians being held accountable? What planet are you living on?

Howbdo you think they stay elected? They pander to their voter base.

Comfy_Pillow posted...

Howbdo you think they stay elected? They pander to their corporate sponsors.

Ftfy

And those corporate sponsors pander to public relations and public relations says it's good to be for police reform right now

---

Comfy_Pillow posted...

But no policy maker is gonna care if the majority of voters are old people that don't care about police reform

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying what the protesters are doing is important. There is no reason to take that away for any reason. Its not like all of a sudden everyone will stop caring. You're seeing a positive shift from those who might not have been sympathetic to the cause the last several times. You're seeing celebrities be more vocal, which has a huge influence. you're seeing companies make their own in house policy changes to aid in positive support for this movement. That's how it starts.

---

Comfy_Pillow posted...

Howbdo you think they stay elected? They pander to their voter base.

No, they change the rules so that you have to vote for them.

---

Vyrulisse posted...

LOL they won't

---

They will probably tweet or like their favorite politician on Facebook instead.

---

VipaGTS posted...

You're seeing celebrities be more vocal, which has a huge influence.

Did you miss 2016 when the MSM and celebs were all against Trump and wanted Hilary?

---

Does Op listen to Destiny?

---

I Like Toast posted...

Ftfy

And those corporate sponsors pander to public relations and public relations says it's good to be for police reform right now

Some pro police reform dude isn't getting elected in small towns based on corporate sponsers dude.

Comfy_Pillow posted...

Some pro police reform dude isn't getting elected in small towns based on corporate sponsers my dude.

How many sponsors were behind Hilary?

---

Dathrowed1 posted...

Did you miss 2016 when the MSM and celebs were all against Trump and wanted Hilary?

Yea, and Hilary was a terrible candidate. Celebrities still have incredible influence overall. They don't bat 1000

---

Dathrowed1 posted...

How many sponsors were behind Hilary?

Idk. But I'm not jusy talking about the general election. The local governments of bum fuck towns in flyover states aren't hinging on corporate sponsors

VipaGTS posted...

Yea, and Hilary was a terrible candidate. Celebrities still have incredible influence overall. They don't bat 1000

I think their influence is overstated unless you mean they push the public more right

---

Dathrowed1 posted...

I think their influence is overstated unless you mean they push the public more right

No, i mean they have influence and are able to reach broader audiences. Just because Liberal or Progressive opinions don't win every time doesn't make that false.

---