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HashtagSEP 06/12/20 4:30:56 PM #101:	I mean it's not even ambitious at this point because it's been done before This seems more just for shock value to go "They thought we wouldn't go there lol BUT WE DID OH SNAP" --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:940574629] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>I mean it's not even ambitious at this point because it's been done before This seems more just for shock value to go "They thought we wouldn't go there lol BUT WE DID OH SNAP" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pezzicle 06/12/20 4:33:43 PM #102:	Xiahou Shake posted... If player interaction isn't at all a part of the heaviest hitting part of your project then it sounds like you should be making something besides a video game to me. Why though? Does a good game need to have some kind of obviousness around player interaction? Does a good story? Lots of good video game stories don't have anything to do with player interaction --- Tribe Time! <cite>pezzicle posted [p:940574785] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>Xiahou Shake posted... </cite> <quote>If player interaction isn't at all a part of the heaviest hitting part of your project then it sounds like you should be making something besides a video game to me.</quote>Why though? Does a good game need to have some kind of obviousness around player interaction? Does a good story? Lots of good video game stories don't have anything to do with player interaction </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pezzicle 06/12/20 4:34:35 PM #103:	HashtagSEP posted... I mean it's not even ambitious at this point because it's been done before This seems more just for shock value to go "They thought we wouldn't go there lol BUT WE DID OH SNAP" So now the issue is that it isn't ambitious? --- Tribe Time! <cite>pezzicle posted [p:940574836] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>HashtagSEP posted... </cite> <quote>I mean it's not even ambitious at this point because it's been done before This seems more just for shock value to go "They thought we wouldn't go there lol BUT WE DID OH SNAP"</quote> So now the issue is that it isn't ambitious? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 06/12/20 4:38:45 PM #104:	pezzicle posted... My main issue with all the backlash of it is that it's basically all situated around "not going in the direction that fans want" which does not make it a bad story or game Just means they did something you weren't wanting them to do. Doesn't mean it's bad. Bad writing and "not what I was expecting" are very different things There's a way to go in a different direction without demeaning or even destroying what people loved about the first game. The writers aren't under any obligation to do what the audience wants, but it looks like they went way out of their way to undermine a lot of what many people enjoyed from the first one. --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505 <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:940575059] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>pezzicle posted... </cite> <quote>My main issue with all the backlash of it is that it's basically all situated around "not going in the direction that fans want" which does not make it a bad story or game Just means they did something you weren't wanting them to do. Doesn't mean it's bad. Bad writing and "not what I was expecting" are very different things</quote> There's a way to go in a different direction without demeaning or even destroying what people loved about the first game. The writers aren't under any obligation to do what the audience wants, but it looks like they went way out of their way to undermine a lot of what many people enjoyed from the first one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 06/12/20 4:38:58 PM #105:	I don't think the issue was ever that it was ambitious It's that it's pointless. They're not crafting any special kind of message with this. They're not making any kind of point about anything that hasn't already been made. They're intentionally trying to be divisive and controversial for no other reason than to be divisive and controversial. I mean, they've even been hyping up said divisiveness and controversy ahead of release themselves. It's a game that's designed to make you feel like shit and basically punish you for being a fan of the first game. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:940575068] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>I don't think the issue was ever that it was ambitious It's that it's pointless. They're not crafting any special kind of message with this. They're not making any kind of point about anything that hasn't already been made. They're intentionally trying to be divisive and controversial for no other reason than to be divisive and controversial. I mean, they've even been hyping up said divisiveness and controversy ahead of release themselves. It's a game that's designed to make you feel like shit and basically punish you for being a fan of the first game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pezzicle 06/12/20 4:41:42 PM #106:	Man we are moving goal posts --- Tribe Time! <cite>pezzicle posted [p:940575193] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>Man we are moving goal posts </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BadTopicIsBad 06/12/20 4:41:56 PM #107:	pezzicle posted... I dunno I've read a lot of moaning about pandering Well in this specific case I have to admit it does sound like they are a bit. Not that it particularly matters to me as I didn't play the first game so I wasn't going to get this one. --- But I'm not saying which. <cite>BadTopicIsBad posted [p:940575198] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>pezzicle posted... </cite> <quote>I dunno I've read a lot of moaning about pandering</quote> Well in this specific case I have to admit it does sound like they are a bit. Not that it particularly matters to me as I didn't play the first game so I wasn't going to get this one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 06/12/20 4:44:16 PM #108:	pezzicle posted... Why though? Does a good game need to have some kind of obviousness around player interaction? I would say yes by definition. Player interaction is as essential to video games (and more critically, games in general) as moving pictures are to movies and sound is to music. If you make a video game with no player interaction, you've merely made a video. Of course that's not the case with TLoU2, which obviously does have quite a bit of gameplay. But when story is so clearly the priority, and that story so jarringly disconnects from your agency as a player, I do have to wonder if there's anything deliberate about TLoU2 being a video game beyond it simply being the medium that these artists are proficient in. --- Let the voice of love take you higher, With this gathering power, go beyond even time! <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:940575320] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>pezzicle posted... </cite> <quote>Why though? Does a good game need to have some kind of obviousness around player interaction?</quote>I would say yes by definition. Player interaction is as essential to video games (and more critically, games in general) as moving pictures are to movies and sound is to music. If you make a video game with no player interaction, you've merely made a video. Of course that's not the case with TLoU2, which obviously does have quite a bit of gameplay. But when story is so clearly the priority, and that story so jarringly disconnects from your agency as a player, I do have to wonder if there's anything deliberate about TLoU2 being a video game beyond it simply being the medium that these artists are proficient in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 06/12/20 4:44:57 PM #109:	I'm pretty sure "the game is designed to make you feel like shit" has been the big complaint this entire time, so I'm not sure where any moving of goalposts is occurring. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:940575354] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure "the game is designed to make you feel like shit" has been the big complaint this entire time, so I'm not sure where any moving of goalposts is occurring. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 06/12/20 4:51:38 PM #110:	Xiahou Shake posted... I would say yes by definition. Player interaction is as essential to video games (and more critically, games in general) as moving pictures are to movies and sound is to music. If you make a video game with no player interaction, you've merely made a video. But you've been talking about agency, not interaction. Interaction is simple participation in the story (killing a dog). Agency is actual choice over the narrative (choosing whether or not to kill the dog). It's fine to make a depressing interactive story that's made more emotional because you have to be an active participant in the misery. But that's different from being berated for making the wrong choice. Plenty of games with good stories have interaction but no agency, or even segment the interaction away from the story elements. And maybe Naughty Dog makes this mistake too! I dunno! --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:940575668] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>Xiahou Shake posted... </cite> <quote> I would say yes by definition. Player interaction is as essential to video games (and more critically, games in general) as moving pictures are to movies and sound is to music. If you make a video game with no player interaction, you've merely made a video.</quote> But you've been talking about agency, not interaction. Interaction is simple participation in the story (killing a dog). Agency is actual choice over the narrative (choosing whether or not to kill the dog). It's fine to make a depressing interactive story that's made more emotional because you have to be an active participant in the misery. But that's different from being berated for making the wrong choice. Plenty of games with good stories have interaction but no agency, or even segment the interaction away from the story elements. And maybe Naughty Dog makes this mistake too! I dunno! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 06/12/20 4:56:18 PM #111:	I think what's even more impressive is not only is it designed to make you feel like shit when you're playing this game, but that it goes out of your way to make you feel like shit for playing the last game too because of what happened in it. I think it's telling that the really negative reviews are the ones that aren't attaching scores onto them though. I think that companies only care about reviews only when the number value hurts their metacritic score, as sad as that sounds, since they seem to value those numbers a lot. I mean, look at the advertising picture of them surrounded by 10/10 scores from random bullshit reviewers. And I think companies like Kotaku and Polygon kind of figured they can be as honest as they want in reviews so long as they don't attach a number to it, and still stay in decent standing with the game companies. I can't tell if it's crazy to think that or not or if it's just a giant coincidence. --- Check out my entertainment blog!: www.heroicbiz.com I discuss video games, comics, movies, and TV! <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:940575893] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>I think what's even more impressive is not only is it designed to make you feel like shit when you're playing this game, but that it goes out of your way to make you feel like shit for playing the last game too because of what happened in it. I think it's telling that the really negative reviews are the ones that aren't attaching scores onto them though. I think that companies only care about reviews only when the number value hurts their metacritic score, as sad as that sounds, since they seem to value those numbers a lot. I mean, look at the advertising picture of them surrounded by 10/10 scores from random bullshit reviewers. And I think companies like Kotaku and Polygon kind of figured they can be as honest as they want in reviews so long as they don't attach a number to it, and still stay in decent standing with the game companies. I can't tell if it's crazy to think that or not or if it's just a giant coincidence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pezzicle 06/12/20 4:57:00 PM #112:	HeroDelTiempo17 posted... But you've been talking about agency, not interaction. Interaction is simple participation in the story (killing a dog). Agency is actual choice over the narrative (choosing whether or not to kill the dog). It's fine to make a depressing interactive story that's made more emotional because you have to be an active participant in the misery. But that's different from being berated for making the wrong choice. Plenty of games with good stories have interaction but no agency, or even segment the interaction away from the story elements. And maybe Naughty Dog makes this mistake too! I dunno! Exactly. And ive not seem an berating I've seen emotion for sure but not like "YOU ARE BAD" If you wish to interpret bad emotion as shameful, go ahead, but it doesn't have to be that way --- Tribe Time! <cite>pezzicle posted [p:940575935] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>HeroDelTiempo17 posted... </cite> <quote>But you've been talking about agency, not interaction. Interaction is simple participation in the story (killing a dog). Agency is actual choice over the narrative (choosing whether or not to kill the dog). It's fine to make a depressing interactive story that's made more emotional because you have to be an active participant in the misery. But that's different from being berated for making the wrong choice. Plenty of games with good stories have interaction but no agency, or even segment the interaction away from the story elements. And maybe Naughty Dog makes this mistake too! I dunno!</quote>Exactly. And ive not seem an berating I've seen emotion for sure but not like "YOU ARE BAD" If you wish to interpret bad emotion as shameful, go ahead, but it doesn't have to be that way </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 06/12/20 4:57:55 PM #113:	That's a fine point! I did do a bit of multi-track drifting there between agency and interaction - no doubt distracted by my zeal in answer that direct question I quoted. You're right, my bigger issue here is how agency is being invoked by ND despite having no actual presence in the experience. And I would agree that - unlike interaction - agency is not at all an essential part of a video game... which makes it all the more jarring to see it held up against the player when they didn't have any to begin with. --- Let the voice of love take you higher, With this gathering power, go beyond even time! <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:940575994] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>That's a fine point! I did do a bit of multi-track drifting there between agency and interaction - no doubt distracted by my zeal in answer that direct question I quoted. You're right, my bigger issue here is how agency is being invoked by ND despite having no actual presence in the experience. And I would agree that - unlike interaction - agency is not at all an essential part of a video game... which makes it all the more jarring to see it held up against the player when they didn't have any to begin with. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 06/12/20 5:03:43 PM #114:	It bugs me that we'll never know what people would have thought of this game in a normal setting. It's been a while since pre-release information/expectations have warped perception of a game this much. Like people in this topic are already drawing lines in the sand and the game isn't even out yet! --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:940576265] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>It bugs me that we'll never know what people would have thought of this game in a normal setting. It's been a while since pre-release information/expectations have warped perception of a game this much. Like people in this topic are already drawing lines in the sand and the game isn't even out yet! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pezzicle 06/12/20 5:05:43 PM #115:	Xiahou Shake posted... That's a fine point! I did do a bit of multi-track drifting there between agency and interaction - no doubt distracted by my zeal in answer that direct question I quoted. You're right, my bigger issue here is how agency is being invoked by ND despite having no actual presence in the experience. And I would agree that - unlike interaction - agency is not at all an essential part of a video game... which makes it all the more jarring to see it held up against the player when they didn't have any to begin with. Is it tho? Or we getting berated? Are is it simply manipulation of your emotions Are they simply telling a story that is purposefully emotional in a certain way or are they trying to say you are bad for the agency you don't have in the game One is fine. The other is not --- Tribe Time! <cite>pezzicle posted [p:940576374] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>Xiahou Shake posted... </cite> <quote>That's a fine point! I did do a bit of multi-track drifting there between agency and interaction - no doubt distracted by my zeal in answer that direct question I quoted. You're right, my bigger issue here is how agency is being invoked by ND despite having no actual presence in the experience. And I would agree that - unlike interaction - agency is not at all an essential part of a video game... which makes it all the more jarring to see it held up against the player when they didn't have any to begin with.</quote>Is it tho? Or we getting berated? Are is it simply manipulation of your emotions Are they simply telling a story that is purposefully emotional in a certain way or are they trying to say you are bad for the agency you don't have in the game One is fine. The other is not </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 06/12/20 5:09:34 PM #116:	KamikazePotato posted... It bugs me that we'll never know what people would have thought of this game in a normal setting. It's been a while since pre-release information/expectations have warped perception of a game this much. Like people in this topic are already drawing lines in the sand and the game isn't even out yet! Yeah, same here. I already had a big thing spoiled that deflated my hype. I'm curious, but due to the backlash all the hype is gone. Stuff like ND saying "oh the fans of the first game won't like this one" just makes me think about what fans WERE expecting? I mean, I loved the first game but TLOU is about terrible things being done to and by its characters. A sequel can only have even more terrible things happen, and I would never go into TLOU2 expecting a happy ending. And if the story itself is bad that's another issue. --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:940576579] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite> <quote>It bugs me that we'll never know what people would have thought of this game in a normal setting. It's been a while since pre-release information/expectations have warped perception of a game this much. Like people in this topic are already drawing lines in the sand and the game isn't even out yet!</quote> Yeah, same here. I already had a big thing spoiled that deflated my hype. I'm curious, but due to the backlash all the hype is gone. Stuff like ND saying "oh the fans of the first game won't like this one" just makes me think about what fans WERE expecting? I mean, I loved the first game but TLOU is about terrible things being done to and by its characters. A sequel can only have even more terrible things happen, and I would never go into TLOU2 expecting a happy ending. And if the story itself is bad that's another issue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 06/12/20 5:13:26 PM #117:	KamikazePotato posted... It bugs me that we'll never know what people would have thought of this game in a normal setting. It's been a while since pre-release information/expectations have warped perception of a game this much. Like people in this topic are already drawing lines in the sand and the game isn't even out yet! Are you saying that people are giving hasty opinions on a game they havent played. Well thats just silly!!!!!!!! Seriously though, I thought the leaks sounded ambitious more than anything, and perhaps they have actually pulled if off. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:940576786] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite> <quote>It bugs me that we'll never know what people would have thought of this game in a normal setting. It's been a while since pre-release information/expectations have warped perception of a game this much. Like people in this topic are already drawing lines in the sand and the game isn't even out yet!</quote> Are you saying that people are giving hasty opinions on a game they havent played. Well thats just silly!!!!!!!! Seriously though, I thought the leaks sounded ambitious more than anything, and perhaps they have actually pulled if off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pezzicle 06/12/20 5:16:10 PM #118:	I would certainly agree with an argument around this game being purposefully emotionally manipulative But I haven't seen any reason to think they are shaming the player for agency they don't have. Having Ellie kill a dog and then flashing back to her dog from her youth is not berating you for killing the dog when you didn't have a choice. But it is certainly attempting to manipulate you into feeling a certain way. --- Tribe Time! <cite>pezzicle posted [p:940576952] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>I would certainly agree with an argument around this game being purposefully emotionally manipulative But I haven't seen any reason to think they are shaming the player for agency they don't have. Having Ellie kill a dog and then flashing back to her dog from her youth is not berating you for killing the dog when you didn't have a choice. But it is certainly attempting to manipulate you into feeling a certain way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 06/12/20 5:20:29 PM #119:	All media is emotionally manipulative. That's the point of media. Now, if you think it's being too heavy-handed in its manipulation, that's a reasonable complaint...but we also haven't seen the scene yet! Like based on what the basic plot points related to the leaks I've heard, I'm not going into this game with high hopes, but it's crazy to me that we're already discussing the nuances of scenes that don't exist yet. --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:940577165] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>All media is emotionally manipulative. That's the point of media. Now, if you think it's being too heavy-handed in its manipulation, that's a reasonable complaint...but we also haven't seen the scene yet! Like based on what the basic plot points related to the leaks I've heard, I'm not going into this game with high hopes, but it's crazy to me that we're already discussing the nuances of scenes that don't exist yet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pezzicle 06/12/20 5:29:35 PM #120:	I also think it's important to state that I'm a clinical psychologist and so looking at this conversation thru a completely different lens then maybe others are However, it is important to discern between the difference between "feel this way" and "feel bad about yourself" Making a video game that is purposefully trying to get you to feel a specific way is emotional manipulation. As stated about by KP, lots of media is emotionally manipulative. Making a video game that is emotionally manipulative AMD makes you do something then berates and chastises and attempts to shame you for doing said action when you have no option is gaslighting --- Tribe Time! <cite>pezzicle posted [p:940577604] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>I also think it's important to state that I'm a clinical psychologist and so looking at this conversation thru a completely different lens then maybe others are However, it is important to discern between the difference between "feel this way" and "feel bad about yourself" Making a video game that is purposefully trying to get you to feel a specific way is emotional manipulation. As stated about by KP, lots of media is emotionally manipulative. Making a video game that is emotionally manipulative AMD makes you do something then berates and chastises and attempts to shame you for doing said action when you have no option is gaslighting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 06/12/20 5:53:52 PM #122:	So, uh, one review confirms something that we all thought was just right-wing memes. My trans friends are going to hate this game. --- Check out my entertainment blog!: www.heroicbiz.com I discuss video games, comics, movies, and TV! <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:940578764] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>So, uh, one review confirms something that we all thought was just right-wing memes. My trans friends are going to hate this game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 06/12/20 5:56:08 PM #123:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... So, uh, one review confirms something that we all thought was just right-wing memes. My trans friends are going to hate this game. Ouch. That's the final nail in the coffin for me! Thought that was fake, too. --- ACAB <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:940578874] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite> <quote>So, uh, one review confirms something that we all thought was just right-wing memes. My trans friends are going to hate this game.</quote> Ouch. That's the final nail in the coffin for me! Thought that was fake, too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 06/12/20 5:59:07 PM #125:	I should clarify it's not like, hard confirmed, but I don't see what else it could possibly be. The review says: ~~"A trans character who I'm not allowed to reveal yet."~~ So that's awful. --- Check out my entertainment blog!: www.heroicbiz.com I discuss video games, comics, movies, and TV! <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:940579037] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>I should clarify it's not like, hard confirmed, but I don't see what else it could possibly be. The review says: "A trans character who I'm not allowed to reveal yet." So that's awful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 06/12/20 6:01:29 PM #126:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... So, uh, one review confirms something that we all thought was just right-wing memes. My trans friends are going to hate this game. Can you link the review? --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:940579134] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite> <quote>So, uh, one review confirms something that we all thought was just right-wing memes. My trans friends are going to hate this game.</quote> Can you link the review? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 06/12/20 6:02:37 PM #127:	Time Magazine's review https://time.com/5847508/the-last-of-us-part-ii-review/ Edit: Oh my god this full review is so bad. Literally talking about Gamergate in 2020. --- Check out my entertainment blog!: www.heroicbiz.com I discuss video games, comics, movies, and TV! <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:940579186] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>Time Magazine's review https://time.com/5847508/the-last-of-us-part-ii-review/ Edit: Oh my god this full review is so bad. Literally talking about Gamergate in 2020. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 06/12/20 6:09:30 PM #128:	metaIslug posted... I got a dude to bet his account that TLOU2 wouldn't win GOTY. He's so fucked I dunno. Remake was pretty great and Cyberpunk is still a thing(or did that get moved I forget)? --- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make **** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:940579509] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>metaIslug posted... </cite> <quote>I got a dude to bet his account that TLOU2 wouldn't win GOTY. He's so fucked</quote> I dunno. Remake was pretty great and Cyberpunk is still a thing(or did that get moved I forget)? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 06/12/20 6:10:55 PM #129:	GotY where? Here? It ain't winning here. But anywhere at all? It'll probably win at least one just because so many different places give them out. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:940579568] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>GotY where? Here? It ain't winning here. But anywhere at all? It'll probably win at least one just because so many different places give them out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 06/12/20 6:11:37 PM #130:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... Time Magazine's review https://time.com/5847508/the-last-of-us-part-ii-review/ Edit: Oh my god this full review is so bad. Literally talking about Gamergate in 2020. Thanks! And yes, that's an awful review that gave me nothing as a gamer. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:940579591] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite> <quote>Time Magazine's review https://time.com/5847508/the-last-of-us-part-ii-review/ Edit: Oh my god this full review is so bad. Literally talking about Gamergate in 2020.</quote> Thanks! And yes, that's an awful review that gave me nothing as a gamer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 06/12/20 6:38:07 PM #131:	--- Check out my entertainment blog!: www.heroicbiz.com I discuss video games, comics, movies, and TV! <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:940580864] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GavsEvans123 06/12/20 6:44:04 PM #132:	If that spoiler on the previous page is referring to who I think it is... Does it mean the resurgence of ~~Senator Armstrong~~ memes? If so, I can't wait to see Youtube footage of the final boss fight synced to ~~It has to be this way!~~ <cite>GavsEvans123 posted [p:940581129] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>If that spoiler on the previous page is referring to who I think it is... Does it mean the resurgence of Senator Armstrong memes? If so, I can't wait to see Youtube footage of the final boss fight synced to It has to be this way! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 06/12/20 6:44:11 PM #133:	https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/ Fun fact, Death Stranding is barely in the lead for 2019 GotY picks! --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:940581133] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/ Fun fact, Death Stranding is barely in the lead for 2019 GotY picks! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 06/12/20 6:54:16 PM #135:	GavsEvans123 posted... If that spoiler on the previous page is referring to who I think it is... Does it mean the resurgence of ~~Senator Armstrong~~ memes? If so, I can't wait to see Youtube footage of the final boss fight synced to ~~It has to be this way!~~ Bold of you to assume this game won't be the recipient of the most vicious, strictly inforced copyright strike policy in gaming history. --- ACAB <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:940581589] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>GavsEvans123 posted... </cite> <quote>If that spoiler on the previous page is referring to who I think it is... Does it mean the resurgence of Senator Armstrong memes? If so, I can't wait to see Youtube footage of the final boss fight synced to It has to be this way!</quote> Bold of you to assume this game won't be the recipient of the most vicious, strictly inforced copyright strike policy in gaming history. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow Dino 06/12/20 7:06:45 PM #136:	https://twitter.com/jackallisonLOL/status/1271569518108659712 --- Bart, with $10,000, we'd be millionaires! We could buy all kinds of useful things like...love! ~Homer J. Simpson <cite>Shadow Dino posted [p:940582142] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/jackallisonLOL/status/1271569518108659712 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 06/12/20 7:19:49 PM #137:	KamikazePotato posted... https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/ Fun fact, Death Stranding is barely in the lead for 2019 GotY picks! Only with fan polls, for official awards its Resident Evil 2. And Sekiro won TGA which is also an aggregate award in a sense. But also I have never heard of almost all of the places giving Death Stranding awards. Lots of very small sites and blogs. That is the issue with just counting overall wins and not weighting them. Outer Wilds didnt win that many in raw number, but it got the BAFTA which is a huge deal. Anyway, Cyberpunk is the big threat to TLoU in terms of awards. On here it could be FFVII Remake but I can actually see that behind TLoU and Cyberpunk. Still a lot up in the air. For TGA, I have a feeling that the nominees will be Animal Crossing, FFVII Remake, TLoU Part II, Cyberpunk and something else - maybe Half-Life Alyx. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:940582698] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite> <quote>https://gotypicks.blogspot.com/ Fun fact, Death Stranding is barely in the lead for 2019 GotY picks!</quote> Only with fan polls, for official awards its Resident Evil 2. And Sekiro won TGA which is also an aggregate award in a sense. But also I have never heard of almost all of the places giving Death Stranding awards. Lots of very small sites and blogs. That is the issue with just counting overall wins and not weighting them. Outer Wilds didnt win that many in raw number, but it got the BAFTA which is a huge deal. Anyway, Cyberpunk is the big threat to TLoU in terms of awards. On here it could be FFVII Remake but I can actually see that behind TLoU and Cyberpunk. Still a lot up in the air. For TGA, I have a feeling that the nominees will be Animal Crossing, FFVII Remake, TLoU Part II, Cyberpunk and something else - maybe Half-Life Alyx. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 06/12/20 7:25:48 PM #138:	I don't see the issue with using fan polls or smaller sites, nor do I care much for weighting things. Like, the DICE awards are a fairly big deal and they gave it to Untitled Goose Game. --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:940582981] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>I don't see the issue with using fan polls or smaller sites, nor do I care much for weighting things. Like, the DICE awards are a fairly big deal and they gave it to Untitled Goose Game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 06/12/20 7:40:53 PM #139:	Thats significant! GDC too. Nobody talks about Death Stranding as a GOTY winner without bringing up that site, because it didnt win any major awards. There are several issues with this method. One is that not all fan polls are created equal. GameFAQss still get more votes than many others combined. This will apply for outlets as well - a massive global site is different from one with a staff of two. Another is methodology. Death Stranding won the IGN poll on 17% of the vote - not exactly the will of the people. Theres also the issue of reporting. If all outlets are eligible that means that there are likely to be many that are simply not reported, biasing the results. This is going to be especially true for small international sites and papers which is where a lot of the Death Stranding support comes from. The best representation of industry consensus is probably The Game Awards because of how they are decided. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:940583628] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>Thats significant! GDC too. Nobody talks about Death Stranding as a GOTY winner without bringing up that site, because it didnt win any major awards. There are several issues with this method. One is that not all fan polls are created equal. GameFAQss still get more votes than many others combined. This will apply for outlets as well - a massive global site is different from one with a staff of two. Another is methodology. Death Stranding won the IGN poll on 17% of the vote - not exactly the will of the people. Theres also the issue of reporting. If all outlets are eligible that means that there are likely to be many that are simply not reported, biasing the results. This is going to be especially true for small international sites and papers which is where a lot of the Death Stranding support comes from. The best representation of industry consensus is probably The Game Awards because of how they are decided. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 06/12/20 8:40:30 PM #140:	Thanos would dominate TLOU2. He has the strength of will to make the hard choices. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:940586452] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>Thanos would dominate TLOU2. He has the strength of will to make the hard choices. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 06/12/20 8:45:11 PM #141:	Neil Druckmann is going out of his way to defend a guy who was called out for comparing his shitty game to Shindler's List. Holy shit this guy. --- Check out my entertainment blog!: www.heroicbiz.com I discuss video games, comics, movies, and TV! <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:940586673] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>Neil Druckmann is going out of his way to defend a guy who was called out for comparing his shitty game to Shindler's List. Holy shit this guy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 06/12/20 8:52:43 PM #142:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... comparing his shitty game to Shindler's List. ART --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:940587061] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite> <quote>comparing his shitty game to Shindler's List.</quote> ART </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 06/12/20 9:44:24 PM #143:	it bums me out that im disinterested in this game and so is the sjws are ruining gaming crowd i dont want to be lumped in with them --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:940589479] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>it bums me out that im disinterested in this game and so is the sjws are ruining gaming crowd i dont want to be lumped in with them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 06/12/20 10:17:47 PM #144:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... Neil Druckmann is going out of his way to defend a guy who was called out for comparing his shitty game to Shindler's List. Holy shit this guy. https://twitter.com/Neil_Druckmann/status/1271542997235068928?s=19 wow what a crazy person --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:940590823] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite> <quote>Neil Druckmann is going out of his way to defend a guy who was called out for comparing his shitty game to Shindler's List. Holy shit this guy.</quote> https://twitter.com/Neil_Druckmann/status/1271542997235068928?s=19 wow what a crazy person </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 06/12/20 10:23:53 PM #145:	Yeah I'm not too sure what's wrong with that --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:940591030] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I'm not too sure what's wrong with that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 06/12/20 10:27:00 PM #146:	MoogleKupo141 posted... it bums me out that im disinterested in this game and so is the sjws are ruining gaming crowd i dont want to be lumped in with them This has been haunting me. --- ACAB <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:940591172] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>MoogleKupo141 posted... </cite> <quote>it bums me out that im disinterested in this game and so is the sjws are ruining gaming crowd i dont want to be lumped in with them</quote> This has been haunting me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 06/12/20 10:32:30 PM #147:	I mean you're simply not interested whereas they're raging hate machines who dedicate significant times of their days finding things that have been "taken away" from their precious games. So like you're in the same group the same way a shark and a goldfish are in the same group. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:940591383] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>I mean you're simply not interested whereas they're raging hate machines who dedicate significant times of their days finding things that have been "taken away" from their precious games. So like you're in the same group the same way a shark and a goldfish are in the same group. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 06/12/20 10:32:55 PM #148:	They don't like anything, so not liking one thing is bound to end up in their domain. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:940591397] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>They don't like anything, so not liking one thing is bound to end up in their domain. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 06/12/20 10:33:03 PM #149:	That he went out of his way to try and defend some idiot who compared his schlock to Schindler's List is the ridiculous part, regardless of how tasteful he was with it. --- Check out my entertainment blog!: www.heroicbiz.com I discuss video games, comics, movies, and TV! <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:940591404] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>That he went out of his way to try and defend some idiot who compared his schlock to Schindler's List is the ridiculous part, regardless of how tasteful he was with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 06/12/20 10:37:56 PM #150:	Schlock can sometimes be better than Schindler's List. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:940591603] in The Last o... [t:78765406]...</cite> <quote>Schlock can sometimes be better than Schindler's List. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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