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RemixRBG
06/11/20 10:15:44 AM
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Just got IP banned for 10 months. The bias in Wikipedia is going to discredit it in the long run
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AsteriskChamps
06/11/20 10:16:59 AM
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Good. Its an encyclopaedia, not an opinion piece.
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DarkChozoGhost
06/11/20 10:18:20 AM
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November 2019 account, incoming transphobic trolling

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RemixRBG
06/11/20 10:18:48 AM
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AsteriskChamps posted...
Good. Its an encyclopaedia, not an opinion piece.

I know and that's why I made an edit to remove an opinionated words from a sentence.
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NeoShadowhen
06/11/20 10:18:51 AM
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The first two posts in this thread make me want to know what the changes were that got TC banned.
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RemixRBG
06/11/20 10:18:56 AM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
November 2019 account, incoming transphobic trolling

What? Prove your allegations
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boxington
06/11/20 10:19:38 AM
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NeoShadowhen posted...
The first two posts in this thread make me want to know what the changes were that got TC banned.
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CruelBuffalo
06/11/20 10:19:45 AM
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Explain your changes. Lets see if we agree
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voldothegr8
06/11/20 10:20:33 AM
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VPN for the win
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NeoShadowhen
06/11/20 10:20:34 AM
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RemixRBG posted...
What?

There is a phenomenon regarding accounts made in that month making transphobic comments. There was a Wikipedia article about it, but, you guessed it, they censored it.
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hakujo
06/11/20 10:20:56 AM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Explain your changes. Lets see if we agree
C'mon TC, show us

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Squall28
06/11/20 10:21:02 AM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Explain your changes. Lets see if we agree


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RemixRBG
06/11/20 10:21:52 AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chancellor_Williams

He asserts the validity of the discredited Black Egyptian hypothesis and that Ancient Egypt was predominantly a black civilization.

This is the original sentence.

My edit was to remove the "discredited" word in the sentence since that is clearly an opinion. The statement stands on it's own whether one agrees or disagrees should be left up to the reader
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DarkChozoGhost
06/11/20 10:23:15 AM
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Ah, racist trolling, not transphobic trolling

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RetsuZaiZen
06/11/20 10:23:24 AM
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Tyranthraxus
06/11/20 10:23:34 AM
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Wikipedia edits are basically done by a small team of crazies who just spend multiple hours a day editing and writing for Wikipedia and unless you're part of their club almost any edit you make will get reversed.

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DeadBankerDream
06/11/20 10:23:48 AM
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RemixRBG posted...
My edit was to remove the "discredited"

/topic

Fair next

Close your account

Fuck off

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RemixRBG
06/11/20 10:24:01 AM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Ah, racist trolling, not transphobic trolling

You're the troll begone fool
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Evening_Dragon
06/11/20 10:24:45 AM
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RemixRBG posted...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chancellor_Williams

He asserts the validity of the discredited Black Egyptian hypothesis and that Ancient Egypt was predominantly a black civilization.

This is the original sentence.

My edit was to remove the "discredited" word in the sentence since that is clearly an opinion. The statement stands on it's own whether one agrees or disagrees should be left up to the reader

That isn't an opinion though. A thing is either factually discredited, or it isn't. It could be a lie, but that's up to the sources to resolve.

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RemixRBG
06/11/20 10:24:55 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
/topic

Fair next

Close your account

Fuck off

etc.

You first Apr 2019
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DeadBankerDream
06/11/20 10:25:29 AM
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Weird "insult"
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RemixRBG
06/11/20 10:26:18 AM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
That isn't an opinion though. A thing is either factually discredited, or it isn't. It could be a lie, but that's up to the sources to resolve.

That is an opinion. There is a mountain of evidence that proves Egypts Black origins. Whether Eurocentrists chose to believe it doesn't change the fact
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CruelBuffalo
06/11/20 10:26:29 AM
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RemixRBG posted...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chancellor_Williams

He asserts the validity of the discredited Black Egyptian hypothesis and that Ancient Egypt was predominantly a black civilization.

This is the original sentence.

My edit was to remove the "discredited" word in the sentence since that is clearly an opinion. The statement stands on it's own whether one agrees or disagrees should be left up to the reader

Depends if it was actually discredited or not. I know nothing of human migration of Egypt.

If they put he believed in the discredited flat earth theory that would be fine and should stay since flat earth is junk

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Laserion
06/11/20 10:27:39 AM
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Evening_Dragon posted...


That isn't an opinion though. A thing is either factually discredited, or it isn't. It could be a lie, but that's up to the sources to resolve.

This. He didn't say "fake", he said "discredited", as in research or studies or whatever has reduced its credibility, or straight proved it wrong.
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Obstacle2
06/11/20 10:29:17 AM
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tc are you a hotep

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RemixRBG
06/11/20 10:30:07 AM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Depends if it was actually discredited or not. I know nothing of human migration of Egypt.

If they put he believed in the discredited flat earth theory that would be fine and should stay since flat earth is junk

They migrated from the South to the North. Nearly all people who study Egypt agree at this point even the biggest critics former critics of the "hypothesis".

I feel the editors use weasel words to lead the readers to certain opinions that they favor
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RemixRBG
06/11/20 10:30:25 AM
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Obstacle2 posted...
tc are you a hotep

Hotep means peace
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Obstacle2
06/11/20 10:31:03 AM
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Evening_Dragon
06/11/20 10:32:16 AM
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RemixRBG posted...
That is an opinion. There is a mountain of evidence that proves Egypts Black origins. Whether Eurocentrists chose to believe it doesn't change the fact

You can say it's an opinion, but you're wrong for the reasons I've already explained. You can try to explain why my explanation is wrong, if you want, but just repeating yourself is nonsense.

There's also the actual page you have to argue against.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Egyptian_hypothesis

Reading through it right now, I'm not seeing any Eurocentrism.

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lolife67
06/11/20 10:33:20 AM
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RemixRBG posted...
Hotep means peace
Not when it's used as a noun.
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Solid Sonic
06/11/20 10:34:49 AM
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That moderator who banned me from the Soul Calibur wiki for a whole year never replied to my outrage.

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Ricemills
06/11/20 10:35:16 AM
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i don't see what's wrong with this.
recently a wikipedia page on my language had an edit war because the pro-president goons tried to change the definition of a word to cover up his gaffe.

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JE19426
06/11/20 10:36:46 AM
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RemixRBG posted...
There is a mountain of evidence that proves Egypts Black origins.

That isn't the Black Egypt theory.
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RemixRBG
06/11/20 10:37:39 AM
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JE19426 posted...
That isn't the Black Egypt theory.

What do you mean?
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JE19426
06/11/20 10:39:56 AM
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RemixRBG posted...
What do you mean?

What unclear? The Black Egypt theory isn't that the idea that Egypt had Black origins.
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sktgamer_13dude
06/11/20 10:41:10 AM
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RemixRBG
06/11/20 10:45:26 AM
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JE19426 posted...
What unclear? The Black Egypt theory isn't that the idea that Egypt had Black origins.

Well Chancellor William's work on "Destruction of Black Civilization" documents the fall of Black Civilization including Egypt so even he is not asserting that Egypt was always Black. He speaks on the origins and how it fell

So based on your assertions, the statement in wiki is still wrong
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Tyranthraxus
06/11/20 10:48:12 AM
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lolife67 posted...
Not when it's used as a noun.
Peace is also a noun

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FortuneCookie
06/11/20 10:50:40 AM
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Many years ago, Wikipedia and I went back and forth over whether or not tyrannosaurus was included in The Lost World (1925). Someone finally set up a dispute and I was able to prove with pictorial evidence that the dinosaur which fights the agathaumas (dubious species) is a tyrannosaurus. Its depiction was based off of the illustrations of Charles R. Knight and is no longer scientifically accurate. Only the allosaurus was ever mentioned by name in the film. But, man, I fought and fought to get the tyrannosaurus listed on that Wiki page.

#JustDinoNerdThings

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hockeybub89
06/11/20 10:51:35 AM
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FortuneCookie
06/11/20 10:52:00 AM
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By the way, the person who set up the dispute had it listed on their Wiki profile that they were an atheist who studied religion and that, by the year 2020, they predicted fewer than 10,000 people left who were religious.

I would scoff at this claim, but it's possible Covid-19 could yet wipe us out by December. <_<

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ThePieReborn
06/11/20 10:58:40 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Many years ago, Wikipedia and I went back and forth over whether or not tyrannosaurus was included in The Lost World (1925). Someone finally set up a dispute and I was able to prove with pictorial evidence that the dinosaur which fights the agathaumas (dubious species) is a tyrannosaurus. Its depiction was based off of the illustrations of Charles R. Knight and is no longer scientifically accurate. Only the allosaurus was ever mentioned by name in the film. But, man, I fought and fought to get the tyrannosaurus listed on that Wiki page.

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We salute your heroic sacrifices. ;_;7

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RemixRBG
06/11/20 10:59:57 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Many years ago, Wikipedia and I went back and forth over whether or not tyrannosaurus was included in The Lost World (1925). Someone finally set up a dispute and I was able to prove with pictorial evidence that the dinosaur which fights the agathaumas (dubious species) is a tyrannosaurus. Its depiction was based off of the illustrations of Charles R. Knight and is no longer scientifically accurate. Only the allosaurus was ever mentioned by name in the film. But, man, I fought and fought to get the tyrannosaurus listed on that Wiki page.

#JustDinoNerdThings

That wasn't my account. That's a different user, possibly the one who made the change back
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JE19426
06/11/20 11:05:26 AM
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RemixRBG posted...
So based on your assertions, the statement in wiki is still wrong

How so?

Well Chancellor William's work on "Destruction of Black Civilization" documents the fall of Black Civilization including Egypt so even he is not asserting that Egypt was always Black. He speaks on the origins and how it fell

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here.
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RemixRBG
06/11/20 11:09:31 AM
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Actually just realized I wasn't banned. I think there's an auto block on making changes in an incognito window

Remade my changes and added my reasons why. Good work Wikipedia
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HylianFox
06/11/20 11:35:41 AM
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try Conservapedia instead

oh wait, they're just as ban-happy

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Questionmarktarius
06/11/20 11:45:22 AM
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DeadBankerDream
06/11/20 11:55:46 AM
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I remember there was a dude who used to troll gamefaqs that got like.... a lot of accounts banned on wikipedia because he would continuously edit some Final Fantasy related pages to be more in line with his own concepts and ideas rather than, well, reality.

Can't remember his name. Maybe it was TC.
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sktgamer_13dude
06/11/20 12:01:28 PM
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RemixRBG posted...
Actually just realized I wasn't banned. I think there's an auto block on making changes in an incognito window

Remade my changes and added my reasons why. Good work Wikipedia
And they changed it back rofl

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