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DevsBro 06/03/20 7:57:37 PM #1: |
Level Up: The Guide to Great Video Game Design
Rules of Play: Game Design Fundamentals The one that hasn't arrived yet is The Ultimate Guide to Video Game Writing and Design I'll let you know if they're any good! --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CreepySmile 06/03/20 7:59:33 PM #2: |
You don't get it
Just make some garbage app that's p2w and then put screenshots of Heroes of Might and Magic or Dark Souls or something and make 100 versions of it on the google play store --- I just want to be loved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wii_Shaker 06/03/20 8:02:37 PM #3: |
Sweet.
--- "He busted in, blessed be the Lord Who believe any mess they read up on a message board" -MF DOOM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamenRiderBlade 06/03/20 8:03:51 PM #4: |
CreepySmile posted...
You don't get itThat's the kind of games we should be banning from the store. There's no reason to allow that kind of garbage onto the store in any way. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 06/03/20 10:48:46 PM #5: |
CreepySmile posted...
You don't get itNah I have a day job to take care of money. I was actually gonna even give it away free until it ended up taking waaaaay longer than I expected to make this one and decided having an actual budget for subsequent ones would make development faster. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 06/04/20 11:39:12 AM #6: |
Started with Level Up. Even as somebody who normally finds theme enthusiasm cringy af, the way the book puts everything in gaming terms is cute.
In the intro (Press Start!) he says that every single chapter of the book is about gameplay, which is a good sign because that's exactly what I've discovered about the game making process: it's a game first and foremost. Level 1 (chapter 1) was titled "Welcome N00bs" and didn't tell me a lot I didn't already know, but it was a neat little history of video gaming and had a great breakdown of all the roles within the process of game development. Oh hey I just realized this was written by a guy named Scott Rogers. Is that you, @Scotty_Rogers ? --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jabodie 06/04/20 11:44:06 AM #7: |
Might read some of those some time. A lot of newer video essay game critiques on YouTube are starting to focus on game design principles and less on the end user experience in their discussions. Probably a sign that younger people are taking video games a lot more seriously than their older counter parts.
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ZeroX91 06/04/20 11:45:46 AM #8: |
CreepySmile posted...
You don't get itYou are full of good advice man --- 2 to the 1 from the 1 to the 3, a fitting end for a monster like me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 06/04/20 11:47:35 AM #9: |
Jabodie posted...
Might read some of those some time. A lot of newer video essay game critiques on YouTube are starting to focus on game design principles and less on the end user experience in their discussions. Probably a sign that younger people are taking video games a lot more seriously than their older counter parts.I've been watching stuff like GMTK, Game Design with Michael, Patrick Hollerman and Extra Credits for a couple of years now. I'll let you know how (these) actual textbooks compare. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 06/05/20 2:31:57 PM #10: |
First couple of levels (chapters) were pretty good.
Level 1 ("Welcome N00bs") didn't tell me a whole lot I didn't already know but it was upfront that it might not so it's cool. Did have a pretty good overview of all the jobs involved in game development and production though. Level 2 ("Ideas") was pretty cool too. Had tips on brainstorming, considering your audience, deciding on your audience, and overcoming writer's block (or designer's block, or whatever). --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 06/06/20 4:14:19 PM #11: |
Level 3 (about story) was freaking great. It had lots of important considerations for gameplay and story, took note of a lot of common problems with video game stories and had some consideration for characters and stuff too.
Level 4 (design documents) was also freaking great. I feel a lot more confident about marketing and stiff too. I wouldn't have expected the chapter have been relevant for that too but it totally was. So do you guys even care about this topic? lol --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 06/06/20 8:03:02 PM #12: |
Last book just arrives. 260 pages. Looks tiny by comparison lol.
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MabusIncarnate 06/06/20 8:04:01 PM #13: |
Can I be a beta tester for your games?
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Guerrilla Soldier 06/06/20 8:04:13 PM #14: |
im glad you read book
--- Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm. Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 06/06/20 8:08:27 PM #15: |
I like thinking about level design as someone who just plays games rather than makes them. Would I enjoy reading these, or are they really catered more to devs?
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kirbymuncher 06/06/20 8:20:19 PM #16: |
DevsBro posted...
In the intro (Press Start!) he says that every single chapter of the book is about gameplay, which is a good sign because that's exactly what I've discovered about the game making process: it's a game first and foremost.a lot of very successful games are fairly light on the gameplay part though so I dunno --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 06/06/20 8:29:27 PM #17: |
MabusIncarnate posted...
Can I be a beta tester for your games?It's not time for that but I probably will need lots of testers. Antifar posted... I like thinking about level design as someone who just plays games rather than makes them. Would I enjoy reading these, or are they really catered more to devs?Haven't seen anything about level design yet but I can recommend the above youtube channels. Best I know is probably Patrick Hollerman, but he only has a couple on yt. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Annihilated 06/06/20 8:33:33 PM #19: |
Sorry that wasn't the video I meant to show you, it was actually this one.
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LightningAce11 06/06/20 8:34:43 PM #20: |
Are you going into game dev tc?
--- I want you to grab your nuts. Grab your balls. I want you to take a handful, and just grab your nuts real quick. Swivel 'em around in a circular motion. -LTG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 06/06/20 8:41:41 PM #21: |
LightningAce11 posted...
Are you going into game dev tc?I'm just about a one-man team working in my spare time. Mrs. DevsBro does some basic administrative tasks, and I got my one friend who's nerdier than I am to do a couple of designs but otherwise it's just been me. I started in 2016. I maaay be halfway done. I kinda need a vector artist or two but that's so expensive... --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 06/06/20 8:43:54 PM #22: |
You should market it, try getting it on steam or an online game distributor, get the word out. A good proof of concept could lead you to getting in contact with people who want to work with you and maybe even someone investing in this.
--- I want you to grab your nuts. Grab your balls. I want you to take a handful, and just grab your nuts real quick. Swivel 'em around in a circular motion. -LTG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 06/06/20 8:47:16 PM #23: |
LightningAce11 posted...
You should market it, try getting it on steam or an online game distributor, get the word out. A good proof of concept could lead you to getting in contact with people who want to work with you and maybe even someone investing in this.Well, I can't really make a pitch without enough resources. Ideas are cheap. And the half (hopefully) that's done is all code with placeholder resources. Besides, four-five years out is way too early for an announcement. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 06/07/20 5:43:48 AM #24: |
Once you have enough for a trailer, make one. Cheat things if you have to.
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