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Verdekal 06/02/20 3:27:29 AM #1:	More Marvel than DC. --- Don't tease the octopus, kids! <cite>Verdekal posted [p:940061599] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>More Marvel than DC. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheoryzC 06/02/20 3:31:40 AM #2:	It's the nature of comic books And a lot of media tbh. Recurring characters --- This is where my sigs suppose to be. <cite>TheoryzC posted [p:940061691] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>It's the nature of comic books And a lot of media tbh. Recurring characters </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pokedude900 06/02/20 3:33:24 AM #3:	Because they're supposed to be law-abiding citizens. Can't go around being judge, jury and executioner just because the guy can shoot lightning from his hands. --- https://imgur.com/ezUdqnN https://imgur.com/75NJ9ws Come to the (un)official GameFAQs Touhou board. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1110- <cite>pokedude900 posted [p:940061729] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Because they're supposed to be law-abiding citizens. Can't go around being judge, jury and executioner just because the guy can shoot lightning from his hands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 06/02/20 3:41:01 AM #4:	Because the villains are what matter from a story telling standpoint. Heroes are crazy boring without a good villain. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:940061850] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Because the villains are what matter from a story telling standpoint. Heroes are crazy boring without a good villain. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 06/02/20 3:46:19 AM #5:	Imagine if Spiderman snapped Doc Ock's spine like kindling during their first fight. He wouldn't be able to be a recurring villain for the last 50 years then. --- Some people say I'm not patient. To them I say "Fine. I'll give you a 10 second head start then." <cite>008Zulu posted [p:940061952] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Imagine if Spiderman snapped Doc Ock's spine like kindling during their first fight. He wouldn't be able to be a recurring villain for the last 50 years then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 06/02/20 3:47:35 AM #6:	You win, Batman kills Joker, Riddler, Penguin, Killer Croc, Deadshot and Bane. So what will his next adventure be? --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:940061965] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>You win, Batman kills Joker, Riddler, Penguin, Killer Croc, Deadshot and Bane. So what will his next adventure be? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 06/02/20 3:48:11 AM #7:	Foppe posted... You win, Batman kills Joker, Riddler, Penguin, Killer Croc, Deadshot and Bane. So what will his next adventure be? Reboot #506 --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:940061976] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite> <quote>You win, Batman kills Joker, Riddler, Penguin, Killer Croc, Deadshot and Bane. So what will his next adventure be?</quote>Reboot #506 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 06/02/20 3:48:16 AM #8:	it's easier to re-use villains than constantly creating new ones --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:940061978] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>it's easier to re-use villains than constantly creating new ones </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
smoke_break 06/02/20 3:50:18 AM #9:	They'd lose money killing off popular villains. Joker is more popular than Batman tbh. --- https://imgur.com/WTmIPt8 <cite>smoke_break posted [p:940062012] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>They'd lose money killing off popular villains. Joker is more popular than Batman tbh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 06/02/20 4:13:54 AM #10:	Joker was supposed to die in his first adventure, but they changed the last panel in the 11th hour. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:940062363] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Joker was supposed to die in his first adventure, but they changed the last panel in the 11th hour. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wii_Shaker 06/02/20 4:17:03 AM #11:	It separates your Wolverines and Batmans from your Spawns and Judge Dredds. Only brutal heroes kill. It actually adds more dimension to them as characters. --- "He busted in, blessed be the Lord Who believe any mess they read up on a message board" -MF DOOM <cite>Wii_Shaker posted [p:940062425] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>It separates your Wolverines and Batmans from your Spawns and Judge Dredds. Only brutal heroes kill. It actually adds more dimension to them as characters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Ivory_Man 06/02/20 4:19:01 AM #12:	Most heroes aren't playing judge jury and executioner. There are characters that do try for this, but it is certainly harder to name Punisher villains than it is to name Flash villains. <cite>The_Ivory_Man posted [p:940062460] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Most heroes aren't playing judge jury and executioner. There are characters that do try for this, but it is certainly harder to name Punisher villains than it is to name Flash villains. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 06/02/20 4:46:47 AM #13:	Verdekal posted... More Marvel than DC. You sure about that? Ill list every MCU movie in which the villain is killed. SPOILERS HERE. CONTINUE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Iron Man Captain America* (putting an asterisks here because Red Skull is referred to as dead but appears much later. Or just count all the hydra cap Mercs if you wanna be anal about it) Hulk Iron Man 2 Avengers (Chitari) Iron Man 3 Thor The Dark World Guardians of the Galaxy Age of Ultron Civil War (crossbones) Dr Strange Guardians 2 Thor Ragnarok Black Panther Avengers Infinity War Avengers Endgame Spider-Man Far from Home. Yes I counted all suicides by heros. CE gonna split hairs here but that phrasing alone by heroes should be all the argument necessary. --- https://imgur.com/Fbusl2a <cite>SwayM posted [p:940062853] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Verdekal posted... </cite> <quote>More Marvel than DC.</quote> You sure about that? Ill list every MCU movie in which the villain is killed. SPOILERS HERE. CONTINUE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Iron Man Captain America* (putting an asterisks here because Red Skull is referred to as dead but appears much later. Or just count all the hydra cap Mercs if you wanna be anal about it) Hulk Iron Man 2 Avengers (Chitari) Iron Man 3 Thor The Dark World Guardians of the Galaxy Age of Ultron Civil War (crossbones) Dr Strange Guardians 2 Thor Ragnarok Black Panther Avengers Infinity War Avengers Endgame Spider-Man Far from Home. Yes I counted all suicides by heros. CE gonna split hairs here but that phrasing alone by heroes should be all the argument necessary. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 06/02/20 5:05:29 AM #14:	SwayM posted... You sure about that? Ill list every MCU movie in which the villain is killed. SPOILERS HERE. CONTINUE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Iron Man Captain America* (putting an asterisks here because Red Skull is referred to as dead but appears much later. Or just count all the hydra cap Mercs if you wanna be anal about it) Hulk Iron Man 2 Avengers (Chitari) Iron Man 3 Thor The Dark World Guardians of the Galaxy Age of Ultron Civil War (crossbones) Dr Strange Guardians 2 Thor Ragnarok Black Panther Avengers Infinity War Avengers Endgame Spider-Man Far from Home. Yes I counted all suicides by heros. CE gonna split hairs here but that phrasing alone by heroes should be all the argument necessary. Pretty sure TC meant comics not films. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:940063097] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted... </cite> <quote>You sure about that? Ill list every MCU movie in which the villain is killed. SPOILERS HERE. CONTINUE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Iron Man Captain America* (putting an asterisks here because Red Skull is referred to as dead but appears much later. Or just count all the hydra cap Mercs if you wanna be anal about it) Hulk Iron Man 2 Avengers (Chitari) Iron Man 3 Thor The Dark World Guardians of the Galaxy Age of Ultron Civil War (crossbones) Dr Strange Guardians 2 Thor Ragnarok Black Panther Avengers Infinity War Avengers Endgame Spider-Man Far from Home. Yes I counted all suicides by heros. CE gonna split hairs here but that phrasing alone by heroes should be all the argument necessary.</quote>Pretty sure TC meant comics not films. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Verdekal 06/02/20 5:12:25 AM #15:	lolife67 posted... Pretty sure TC meant comics not films. Yes. --- Don't tease the octopus, kids! <cite>Verdekal posted [p:940063202] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>lolife67 posted... </cite> <quote>Pretty sure TC meant comics not films.</quote>Yes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 06/02/20 5:12:37 AM #16:	SwayM posted... Ill list every MCU movie in which the villain is killed. Plenty die in movies and TV shows. It's the comics that keep them alive or constantly resurrect. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:940063205] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted... </cite> <quote>Ill list every MCU movie in which the villain is killed.</quote> Plenty die in movies and TV shows. It's the comics that keep them alive or constantly resurrect. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 06/02/20 5:15:19 AM #17:	Verdekal posted... Yes. Well you had your answer long ago. Comic books need to sell week to week. --- https://imgur.com/Fbusl2a <cite>SwayM posted [p:940063249] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Verdekal posted... </cite> <quote>Yes.</quote> Well you had your answer long ago. Comic books need to sell week to week. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 06/02/20 5:15:52 AM #18:	Wii_Shaker posted... It separates your Wolverines and Batmans from your Spawns and Judge Dredds. Only brutal heroes kill. It actually adds more dimension to them as characters. Like Wolverine don't kill mofos. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:940063263] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Wii_Shaker posted... </cite> <quote>It separates your Wolverines and Batmans from your Spawns and Judge Dredds. Only brutal heroes kill. It actually adds more dimension to them as characters.</quote> Like Wolverine don't kill mofos. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 06/02/20 5:18:48 AM #19:	Wolverine mostly kill "nonames introduced for the week" guys, just like the Punisher. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:940063309] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Wolverine mostly kill "nonames introduced for the week" guys, just like the Punisher. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gheb 06/02/20 9:51:38 AM #20:	Name as many Batman villains as you can. Spider-Man villains. Superman villains. You can probably name a half-dozen easy. Now name as many classic Punisher villains as possible. Odds are you are thinking of the few villains that are either still alive or took him forever to kill. Making good, memorable villains is just as hard as creating good memorable heroes. You need to come up with interesting personalities, backgrounds, designs, and abilities. This isn't easy. No one would care about Joker if Batman killed him within a few appearances. No one would care if Lex Luthor was black or not if Superman just heat visioned his head off in issue two. No one wants to kill off these well-crafted villains. Movies don't care as much. Most villains are not getting more than one movie so they can be killed at the end. Even then I wish they would resist killing the villain each time so we had the potential for coming backs or villain team-ups. --- S** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again.* - Forgotten Love The Chiefs won the Super Bowl! <cite>Gheb posted [p:940069222] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Name as many Batman villains as you can. Spider-Man villains. Superman villains. You can probably name a half-dozen easy. Now name as many classic Punisher villains as possible. Odds are you are thinking of the few villains that are either still alive or took him forever to kill. Making good, memorable villains is just as hard as creating good memorable heroes. You need to come up with interesting personalities, backgrounds, designs, and abilities. This isn't easy. No one would care about Joker if Batman killed him within a few appearances. No one would care if Lex Luthor was black or not if Superman just heat visioned his head off in issue two. No one wants to kill off these well-crafted villains. Movies don't care as much. Most villains are not getting more than one movie so they can be killed at the end. Even then I wish they would resist killing the villain each time so we had the potential for coming backs or villain team-ups. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 06/02/20 10:00:55 AM #21:	Gheb posted... Movies don't care as much. Most villains are not getting more than one movie so they can be killed at the end. Even then I wish they would resist killing the villain each time so we had the potential for coming backs or villain team-ups. Ehhh I definitely liked it more when superhero movies didn't have so much continuity and crossover stuff. Why did they decide to make Captain America 3 actually revolve around Iron Man again? --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:940069599] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Gheb posted... </cite> <quote>Movies don't care as much. Most villains are not getting more than one movie so they can be killed at the end. Even then I wish they would resist killing the villain each time so we had the potential for coming backs or villain team-ups.</quote>Ehhh I definitely liked it more when superhero movies didn't have so much continuity and crossover stuff. Why did they decide to make Captain America 3 actually revolve around Iron Man again? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/02/20 10:32:20 AM #22:	lolife67 posted... Pretty sure TC meant comics not films. Nobody stays dead in comics anyway. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:940070866] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>lolife67 posted... </cite> <quote>Pretty sure TC meant comics not films.</quote>Nobody stays dead in comics anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 06/02/20 10:35:59 AM #23:	Questionmarktarius posted... Nobody stays dead in comics anyway. Except Bu... I mean Ja... ehm... Uncle Ben. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:940071012] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Nobody stays dead in comics anyway.</quote>Except Bu... I mean Ja... ehm... Uncle Ben. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 06/02/20 10:45:58 AM #24:	Foppe posted... Wolverine mostly kill "nonames introduced for the week" guys, just like the Punisher. That's still different than Batman. Batman chooses not to kill. Always. If Wolverine doesn't kill someone, it's because they got away before he could. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:940071419] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite> <quote>Wolverine mostly kill "nonames introduced for the week" guys, just like the Punisher.</quote> That's still different than Batman. Batman chooses not to kill. Always. If Wolverine doesn't kill someone, it's because they got away before he could. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 06/02/20 10:47:21 AM #25:	Off the top of my head, the only Marvel character that I can think of that explicitly won't kill is Spider-Man, and I assume that's writers trying to preserve Peter's place as the heart of the Marvel Universe. EDIT: Also forgot Daredevil, which is more dependent on the story. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:940071483] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Off the top of my head, the only Marvel character that I can think of that explicitly won't kill is Spider-Man, and I assume that's writers trying to preserve Peter's place as the heart of the Marvel Universe. EDIT: Also forgot Daredevil, which is more dependent on the story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 06/02/20 11:03:51 AM #26:	Foppe posted... Except Bu... I mean Ja... ehm... Uncle Ben. Also Boston Brand and hordes of Scarfaces. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:940071719] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite> <quote>Except Bu... I mean Ja... ehm... Uncle Ben.</quote>Also Boston Brand and hordes of Scarfaces. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 06/02/20 11:07:16 AM #27:	Seems like a leftover from the code days --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:940071752] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Seems like a leftover from the code days </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 06/02/20 11:08:16 AM #28:	Foppe posted... You win, Batman kills Joker, Riddler, Penguin, Killer Croc, Deadshot and Bane. So what will his next adventure be? A proper fucking ending. --- "A guy talking into the camera about politics? My favorite." - Phantom_Nook Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:940071791] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite> <quote>You win, Batman kills Joker, Riddler, Penguin, Killer Croc, Deadshot and Bane. So what will his next adventure be?</quote> A proper fucking ending. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/02/20 11:10:58 AM #29:	ledbowman posted... Seems like a leftover from the code days Maybe, but comic books have been around for eighty years mostly because it's been recycling the same plots and characters the whole time. As the MCU is showing us, if you keep killing off your villains, you don't have much to do other than find contrived ways to resurrect everyone. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:940071905] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>Seems like a leftover from the code days</quote>Maybe, but comic books have been around for eighty years mostly because it's been recycling the same plots and characters the whole time. As the MCU is showing us, if you keep killing off your villains, you don't have much to do other than find contrived ways to resurrect everyone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 06/02/20 11:13:12 AM #30:	Evening_Dragon posted... A proper fucking ending. You know, I always did prefer anthology series. Or even like cartoons where every episode has more or less the same setup and might as well be its own continuity. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:940071998] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted... </cite> <quote>A proper fucking ending.</quote>You know, I always did prefer anthology series. Or even like cartoons where every episode has more or less the same setup and might as well be its own continuity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/02/20 11:16:00 AM #31:	DevsBro posted... Or even like cartoons where every episode has more or less the same setup and might as well be its own continuity. "Endless quest" cartoons like D&D or Wheeled Warriors eventually get tiring after the thirtieth or so time our heroes almost succeed. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:940072112] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted... </cite> <quote>Or even like cartoons where every episode has more or less the same setup and might as well be its own continuity.</quote>"Endless quest" cartoons like D&D or Wheeled Warriors eventually get tiring after the thirtieth or so time our heroes almost succeed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 06/02/20 11:20:23 AM #32:	Questionmarktarius posted... As the MCU is showing us, if you keep killing off your villains, you don't have much to do other than find contrived ways to resurrect everyone. Im not sure I agree with this due to the nature of film vs comics. As an example, there are enough Spider-man villains to run though that theyd reboot with a new actor playing Spidey before having to resurrect a villain. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:940072310] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>As the MCU is showing us, if you keep killing off your villains, you don't have much to do other than find contrived ways to resurrect everyone.</quote> Im not sure I agree with this due to the nature of film vs comics. As an example, there are enough Spider-man villains to run though that theyd reboot with a new actor playing Spidey before having to resurrect a villain. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/02/20 11:25:46 AM #33:	Evening_Dragon posted... A proper fucking ending. sounds like you would enjoy Return of the Dark Knight. it comes in original comic book form. or it was also adapted into an animated movie which is amazing btw. it's about "an ending" to Batman when he's an old man <cite>Zikten posted [p:940072537] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted... </cite> <quote>A proper fucking ending.</quote>sounds like you would enjoy Return of the Dark Knight. it comes in original comic book form. or it was also adapted into an animated movie which is amazing btw. it's about "an ending" to Batman when he's an old man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 06/02/20 11:27:24 AM #34:	Zikten posted... sounds like you would enjoy Return of the Dark Knight. it comes in original comic book form. or it was also adapted into an animated movie which is amazing btw. it's about "an ending" to Batman when he's an old man And then it got a sequel. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:940072606] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>sounds like you would enjoy Return of the Dark Knight. it comes in original comic book form. or it was also adapted into an animated movie which is amazing btw. it's about "an ending" to Batman when he's an old man</quote>And then it got a sequel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/02/20 11:28:51 AM #35:	well to be fair didn't the sequel come out like 30 years after the original story? you can always just ignore the sequel and pretend it doesn't exist. the original story has a perfect ending on it's own <cite>Zikten posted [p:940072660] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>well to be fair didn't the sequel come out like 30 years after the original story? you can always just ignore the sequel and pretend it doesn't exist. the original story has a perfect ending on it's own </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 06/02/20 11:31:07 AM #36:	Zikten posted... well to be fair didn't the sequel come out like 30 years after the original story? you can always just ignore the sequel and pretend it doesn't exist. the original story has a perfect ending on it's own 15. You are thinking of the sequel to the sequel. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:940072770] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>well to be fair didn't the sequel come out like 30 years after the original story? you can always just ignore the sequel and pretend it doesn't exist. the original story has a perfect ending on it's own</quote>15. You are thinking of the sequel to the sequel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/02/20 11:39:59 AM #37:	meralonne posted... As an example, there are enough Spider-man villains to run though that theyd reboot with a new actor playing Spidey before having to resurrect a villain. Yet comicbook film reboots always resurrect that one villain. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:940073130] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>meralonne posted... </cite> <quote>As an example, there are enough Spider-man villains to run though that theyd reboot with a new actor playing Spidey before having to resurrect a villain.</quote>Yet comicbook film reboots always resurrect that one villain. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 06/02/20 11:44:55 AM #38:	Zikten posted... sounds like you would enjoy Return of the Dark Knight. it comes in original comic book form. or it was also adapted into an animated movie which is amazing btw. it's about "an ending" to Batman when he's an old man About as close as it gets to one, There are the one offs, too, like the whole Batman/Catwoman wedding/marriage series of oneshots. --- "A guy talking into the camera about politics? My favorite." - Phantom_Nook Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:940073369] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>sounds like you would enjoy Return of the Dark Knight. it comes in original comic book form. or it was also adapted into an animated movie which is amazing btw. it's about "an ending" to Batman when he's an old man</quote> About as close as it gets to one, There are the one offs, too, like the whole Batman/Catwoman wedding/marriage series of oneshots. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 06/02/20 11:46:49 AM #39:	Questionmarktarius posted... Yet comicbook film reboots always resurrect that one villain. My guess is it's because movies are more of a financial undertaking. Risk millions of millions of dollars and the one installment for the next year or two hoping somebody is gonna go see Spider-Man vs Vulture? I mean, if you can just have Spidey one-hit KO him on page 1 next month and bring back Doc Ock, it's not such a gamble. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:940073454] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Yet comicbook film reboots always resurrect that one villain.</quote>My guess is it's because movies are more of a financial undertaking. Risk millions of millions of dollars and the one installment for the next year or two hoping somebody is gonna go see Spider-Man vs Vulture? I mean, if you can just have Spidey one-hit KO him on page 1 next month and bring back Doc Ock, it's not such a gamble. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 06/02/20 11:47:50 AM #40:	Doesn't Wonder Woman kill? --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:940073500] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Doesn't Wonder Woman kill? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 06/02/20 7:36:20 PM #41:	Questionmarktarius posted... Yet comicbook film reboots always resurrect that one villain. Not always. The Tobey Maguire Spider-Man films used Green Goblin, Dr Octopus, Sandman and Venom. Andrew Garfield Spidey faced Lizard, Electro and Rhino. Tom Holland got Vulture and Mysterio. We still havent seen Kraven, Black Cat, Scorpion, the guy who created the Spider Slayer robots, etc. Theres a huge list to choose from. i get where youre coming from, though. DC cant do Batman without trotting out the Joker over and over and over. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:940094441] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Yet comicbook film reboots always resurrect that one villain.</quote> Not always. The Tobey Maguire Spider-Man films used Green Goblin, Dr Octopus, Sandman and Venom. Andrew Garfield Spidey faced Lizard, Electro and Rhino. Tom Holland got Vulture and Mysterio. We still havent seen Kraven, Black Cat, Scorpion, the guy who created the Spider Slayer robots, etc. Theres a huge list to choose from. i get where youre coming from, though. DC cant do Batman without trotting out the Joker over and over and over. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 06/02/20 7:39:37 PM #42:	Solar_Crimson posted... Doesn't Wonder Woman kill? Kinda. She typically avoids killing human enemies but is much looser when it comes to monsters, even sentient ones. So Doctor Psyco is probably fine but things in the Greek Pantheon have to worry about being killed. --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:940094546] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>Doesn't Wonder Woman kill?</quote>Kinda. She typically avoids killing human enemies but is much looser when it comes to monsters, even sentient ones. So Doctor Psyco is probably fine but things in the Greek Pantheon have to worry about being killed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 06/02/20 7:51:58 PM #43:	meralonne posted... Not always. The Tobey Maguire Spider-Man films used Green Goblin, Dr Octopus, Sandman and Venom. Andrew Garfield Spidey faced Lizard, Electro and Rhino. Tom Holland got Vulture and Mysterio. We still havent seen Kraven, Black Cat, Scorpion, the guy who created the Spider Slayer robots, etc. Theres a huge list to choose from. i get where youre coming from, though. DC cant do Batman without trotting out the Joker over and over and over. Andrew Garfield did face Green Goblin as well. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:940094954] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>meralonne posted... </cite> <quote>Not always. The Tobey Maguire Spider-Man films used Green Goblin, Dr Octopus, Sandman and Venom. Andrew Garfield Spidey faced Lizard, Electro and Rhino. Tom Holland got Vulture and Mysterio. We still havent seen Kraven, Black Cat, Scorpion, the guy who created the Spider Slayer robots, etc. Theres a huge list to choose from. i get where youre coming from, though. DC cant do Batman without trotting out the Joker over and over and over.</quote> Andrew Garfield did face Green Goblin as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 06/02/20 7:55:46 PM #44:	The whole concept of a no kill rule is there to allow repeat villains. You can't kill Hardy the Heroin Dealer and continue to spare the Joker time and again. --- 2020 going to be a CE kind of year ~ Panthera <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:940095099] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>The whole concept of a no kill rule is there to allow repeat villains. You can't kill Hardy the Heroin Dealer and continue to spare the Joker time and again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 06/02/20 7:56:46 PM #45:	Darmik posted... Andrew Garfield did face Green Goblin as well. I mean if you reboot the franchise it is very likely you'll run into the classic villains again. This is probably especially true for Joker, Luthor, and Green Goblin. --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:940095134] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>Andrew Garfield did face Green Goblin as well.</quote>I mean if you reboot the franchise it is very likely you'll run into the classic villains again. This is probably especially true for Joker, Luthor, and Green Goblin. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/02/20 7:59:06 PM #46:	Compsognathus posted... I mean if you reboot the franchise it is very likely you'll run into the classic villains again. Because killing them off as any given franchise run goes on, means you've got Schwarzenegger playing Mr Freeze in the 4th one for some reason. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:940095239] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>Compsognathus posted...</cite> <quote>I mean if you reboot the franchise it is very likely you'll run into the classic villains again. </quote> Because killing them off as any given franchise run goes on, means you've got Schwarzenegger playing Mr Freeze in the 4th one for some reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheoryzC 06/02/20 8:43:33 PM #47:	name a Punisher villain that's not random thug #1 who he killed and was never resurrected How many times has he killed Jigsaw? --- This is where my sigs suppose to be. <cite>TheoryzC posted [p:940096721] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>name a Punisher villain that's not random thug #1 who he killed and was never resurrected How many times has he killed Jigsaw? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 06/02/20 9:07:50 PM #48:	TheoryzC posted... name a Punisher villain that's not random thug #1 who he killed and was never resurrected How many times has he killed Jigsaw? Kingpin kinda becomes his nemesis by default. He's the final boss in virtually every Punisher video game. --- 2020 going to be a CE kind of year ~ Panthera <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:940097595] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>TheoryzC posted... </cite> <quote>name a Punisher villain that's not random thug #1 who he killed and was never resurrected How many times has he killed Jigsaw?</quote> Kingpin kinda becomes his nemesis by default. He's the final boss in virtually every Punisher video game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 06/02/20 9:09:33 PM #49:	FortuneCookie posted... Kingpin kinda becomes his nemesis by default. He's the final boss in virtually every Punisher video game. Yeah, he has to borrow a Daredevil villain that he isn't allowed to kill. --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:940097663] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite> <quote>Kingpin kinda becomes his nemesis by default. He's the final boss in virtually every Punisher video game.</quote>Yeah, he has to borrow a Daredevil villain that he isn't allowed to kill. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Killmonger 06/02/20 9:22:36 PM #50:	TheoryzC posted... name a Punisher villain that's not random thug #1 who he killed and was never resurrected How many times has he killed Jigsaw? ~~He killed Kingpin and Bullseye in Punisher Max,~~ although that took place outside of 616. <cite>Killmonger posted [p:940098199] in Why are Ma... [t:78739211]...</cite> <quote>TheoryzC posted...</cite> <quote>name a Punisher villain that's not random thug #1 who he killed and was never resurrected How many times has he killed Jigsaw? </quote> He killed Kingpin and Bullseye in Punisher Max, although that took place outside of 616.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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