Current Events > What's your alignment to the situation?

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dont give a flying fuck anymore. jobs in trouble, economy is going to shit, as long as i dont wake up to some assholes setting my neighborhood on fire i just dont care.

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Other: This was an inevitable. I support the ideals of the movement, but not the people going crazy and looting just to loot.

But then, the people that are supposed to be handling this are the problem.

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Evening_Dragon posted...

Other: This was an inevitable. I support the ideals of the movement, but not the people going crazy and looting just to loot.

But then, the people that are supposed to be handling this are the problem.

soooooooooo....neutral path
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I support the cause of the protestors, but not the actions. There needs to be an actionable list of demands. Don't just destroy random shit.

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I support the protesters, NOT the rioters. I knew this would happen eventually. COVID set the platform for this to happen with the public being out of work and frustrated. I just wish things didn't escalate to where they did.

This is more of a GURPS thing

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NeonOctopus posted...

soooooooooo....neutral path

Well no, I'm not bothsiding it. I'm against the establishment and for the ideals of the riot and protest, although obviously the execution is fucked. But like, you can't do anything about it at this point. This is a pipe that was building pressure, but there's nothing to fix now that it's burst.

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I completely understand why there's rage, frustration, and desperation. Loud, aggressive protests are completely understandable and rational. I'm not in support of rioters who are damaging property and injuring others, just for the sake of it.

This is an undoubtedly ugly situation all around, but it needs to happen, and it needs to be visible so that sweeping law enforcement + justice system reforms become a thought in most peoples' minds.

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Could not care less about any of this and nothing will ever change

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The police as a system are just. With a system so large, there will no doubt be corruption. I don't think there is any way to solve that aside from cutting out the cancer when you spot it. Humans are inherently flawed, so we cannot expect absolute perfection. There is a big issue of police accountability often not being high up on people's radar. I'm not sure if that is a wide institutional thing or if it's a more localized issue of corruption with local police, judges, prosecutors, etc. It is perfectly acceptable to want to fight against this corruption, whether local or institutional. It is perfectly acceptable to want evil people brought to justice.

Protestors would have an absolute right to protest against anything they want so long as it's a legal protest. They are against what they consider a completely broken system. I don't 100% agree, but they have the right to legally protest as much and as long as they want. Rioters on the other hand are a bunch of hypocritical assholes putting innocent lives in danger out of their inept rage. Their feelings may be just, but their actions are evil. The situation is probably exacerbated by those just using the opportunity to loot and burn things without care of their cause, but that hasn't stopped the majority from continuing.

Police is handling this badly.
Those protesting are fine and they need to make sure necessary and clear changes in policing keeps being pushed once the protests ends.
Those looting and being violent are wrong. Understandable, but ultimately not good. It shouldn't dismiss the original intent of the protests though
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The rioting and looting is a symptom of the larger problem that needs to be addressed.

The reason for the chaos is because people cannot get the justice they seek through the established order. That's the part that falls on so many deaf ears, willfully or not.

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They were protesting peacefully until the Police tear gassed them. Im not sure what other options are there.

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its a cycle of fear that leads to anger, anger to hate, hate to suffering... i feel united in the cause just to realize that these are the moments we all live for: when the moments of less mean so much more.

we are all spokes of the wheel of this fear cycle. the only way it stops is to break the cycle.

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This is the beginning of nocturne

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monkmith posted...

dont give a flying fuck anymore. jobs in trouble, economy is going to shit, as long as i dont wake up to some assholes setting my neighborhood on fire i just dont care.

Yea.

Also what's the point in the business districts if they will remain closed anyway?


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What nuanced options.

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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

Yea.

Also what's the point in the business districts if they will remain closed anyway?

heh, saw some restaurant owner who's business burnt down praising the actions; i'm guessing she got a fat check from her insurance...

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The situation has shown the need of the police, the absurdity of the police, and everywhere in-between.

It's shown why people shouldnt take this and it's shown why police justify some tactics.

Fun times, gonna need a real innovator and leader to get it fully fixed, if it's possible

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The difference between "both sides are acting like children" is that one is a disorganized community whose emotions have reached the breaking point and are lashing out at an abstract system of power in the only way they know how at the moment, and the latter are supposedly trained professionals who have a decades-long history of not suffering any consequences for their offenses and are routinely held to a much lower standard of scrutiny for their actions than the people they're supposedly meant to protect.

The riots will eventually calm down and a more organized movement to address the underlying issues will come of it. The police are going to continue acting like bullies and thugs when this is over.

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Anyone who supports the police in this scenario is fucked up, considering all the fucked up things theyve done to peaceful protestors this week. Theyve shot at/arrested reporters, shoot at people on their porch, and seem to escalate every situation theyre in.

Notice how there was a sheriff in Michigan who marched and how there wasnt the violence you saw in other cities where police became a gang terrorizing the citizens of their city.

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Chaotic neutral

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I support the protests. Ultimately, insurance companies and large corporations who rip us off and underpay their workers on the daily will mostly be the ones paying for the damage, and who gives a fuck about them? Lol.
Then things will settle down and go back to the way they were before. Just like they always do after riots. Maybe if the riots were bigger, things would actually change.

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I think there is a lot of garbage out there. Seriously I'm playing the mafia 2 remaster. It could be such a good game but their quality control is terrible. It's seriously one of the few games that goes a little further as far as actual game design, but the AI is braindead and all sorts of glitches. I honestly think a lot of people are just crooked now and don't even bother.

The social media age and all of it. What people are offering is more trying to control what people think. Some of it is alright. It's a form of liberalism. Some of it is just no fun at all. Reality isn't this for most people.

The cops are overly control freakish sometimes. So are people committing crimes. Seriously you commit crimes or call the cops out of your stupidity it's just stupid.

Joe Biden wants to treat it like it's an illness. Trump wants to control it. I get people are kids and these game developers too they dumb games down to appeal to the masses and make it easier for kids to get into but they also are just making garbage at this point. The people who are winning are the ones who are just rolling with it. Whether they are making up garbage too is another story.

I support protestors but not rioters

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Those who voted for the first option clearly have no structure in their lives. You can tell by the way they post.

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Really the police have to be there to protect regardless. If people are attacking police what are they supposed to do. It's their fault for hiring stupid cops. It's George Floyd's fault for passing a counterfit twenty dollar bill. They are both frauds. Should he have been killed? No. Maybe? I don't know. People are trash. Should cops be killed? Maybe. I don't know.

Honestly I've seen it for too long and people to get by they do stupid shit.

There needs to be another option because supporting the protesters needs to be separate from supporting the rioters and looters.

If you support what these protests have morphed into; with buildings being vandalized or outright destroyed, cars being torched, and innocents on both sides being attacked; please take the time to do some serious soul-searching.

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HBOSS posted...

its a cycle of fear that leads to anger, anger to hate, hate to suffering... i feel united in the cause just to realize that these are the moments we all live for: when the moments of less mean so much more.

we are all spokes of the wheel of this fear cycle. the only way it stops is to break the cycle.

well said yoda/cm punk

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Neither side is right.

Police randomly attacking and brutalizing people is more wrong. The rioters, its easy to write it off as bad actors in the crowd, but police are supposed to have better training.

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I agree it's just stupid at this point. That never should have happened at all. Regardless of George Floyd trying to pass a counterfit 20. It just shouldn't be.

If their ultimate goal is to upend the legal and police system, its unbelievably futile.

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I should be able to trust the people around me enough to not even worry about it at this point. Not the other way around. I think I'm entitled to that. Mr. President. Did you order the code red????

I'm not even sure what you mean by "side" anymore. There's so many people behaving badly it's hard to keep track.

BignutzisBack posted...

This is the beginning of nocturne

lol
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Neutral

It's a combination of both sides are incredibly bad and suspicions of malicious third party funding, like many street marches and protests in current year, even protests aligned with the GOP are suffering from malicious third party funding.
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I'm siding with the protesters, but I really think they shouldn't be breaking and stealing stuff. It's a difficult time, hold that police officer accountable for what he did, make an example out of him, discourage behavior like that so this never happens again.

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lincoln002 posted...

I'm siding with the protesters, but I really think they shouldn't be breaking and stealing stuff. It's a difficult time, hold that police officer accountable for what he did, make an example out of him, discourage behavior like that so this never happens again.

Well apparently some of the protestors/rioters are from out of state, at least in MN.

I'm definitely not saying all the bad actors are from out of state, but you have to keep it in mind. You can't just plant out of state cops quite so easily.

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wackyteen posted...

Well apparently some of the protestors/rioters are from out of state, at least in MN.

I'm definitely not saying all the bad actors are from out of state, but you have to keep it in mind. You can't just plant out of state cops quite so easily.

It's pretty hilarious how all 50 states think their rioters are from out of state. I wonder if Hawaii will have the same excuse?

Annihilated posted...

It's pretty hilarious how all 50 states think their rioters are from out of state. I wonder if Hawaii will have the same excuse?

Well we know for sure MN had out of state rioters.

Until other PDs report out of state arrests, we just have to assume the rioters are either from their own city or from like the next city over

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This poll doesn't cover everything. Some protesters are doing it right. Others are doing it wrong. The ones who are I support. The ones who aren't I don't.


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lol USA

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Politicians propagate this stuff because it drives the economy. It's going to go on regardless of who is elected. The media is incredibly annoying that way too because they look for this stuff. I see how front line workers and the police react as well. And other people. Because they themselves feel judged or whatever it is. It's just becoming stupid all the way around. People either don't care or they care too much in all the wrong ways.

I think some people are just stuck in a cycle of nonsense. All of it really how this country evolved. And people wonder why some people stop going to hospitals. It's not bad everywhere but honestly there is lots of stuff i'd just stay away from. I grew up during a different time when things were going well and people got greedy. Intellectual property laws. Corporate mergers all of it.

Even as far as the entire video game industry. Game companies used to fail on their own and rightfully so. There were always people there trying to capitalize on it is the problem. GTA came out. It was a fairly decent game at first. If there was never another one and companies came up with other things would people really care? But that's how it went. Guys like Bobby Kotick came along and they raped and pillaged and created these empires. And now people are trying to figure out other ways to do things. Or I wish they actually would.

Most of the world isn't this way. The media and politicians propagate this stuff constantly. Because it's really become the machine. And it's redundant.

Yeah fuck Bobby Kotick
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