Current Events > Derek Chauvin, George Floyd murderer, has been taken into custody.

(+) Yeah! (+)

Asking for evidence when people make claims is lying?

Hmm.

what do you mean you people????

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Breaking : Derek Chauvin, murderer, moved by his police protection squad to somewhere more comfortable and protected by more police.

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A list of the buildings damaged, looted in Minneapolis

Park-Nicollet Minneapolis Clinic: Property damage.
K-Mart Lake Street: Property damage.
Penzey's Spices Uptown: Property damage, looting.
Walgreens Hennepin and 27th: Property damage.
Midori's Floating World Cafe Lake Street: Fire damage.
GM Tobacco Lake and 27th: Fire damage.
McDonald's Lake and 31st: Property damage.
Walgreens Central and Lowry in Northeast: Property damage.
Wells Fargo Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
Ladditude Tattoo Lake and 27th: Fire damage.
LV's Barbershop Lake and 27th: Fire damage.
The Hub Bike Co-op Minnehaha and 30th: Property damage.
J-Klips Lake Street: Property damage.
5 Guys Hennepin and 24th: Property damage.
Holiday Hennepin and 25th: Property damage.
Honda Town Lake and 43rd: Property damage.
Tires Plus Lake and 34th: Property damage.
Hennepin County Human Service Center: Property damage.
ICC Wireless Lake Street: Property damage.
Jackson Hewitt Tax Service: Property damage.
Little Caesars Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
Teppanyaki Grill Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
Home Choice Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
Dollar General Lake Street: Extensive fire damage.
Twin Lake Dental: Fire and property damage.
HD Laundry Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
Citi Trends Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
Total Wireless Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
Pineda Tacos Lake Street: Property damage.
Subway Lake Street: Property damage.
7 Mile Fashion Express East Lake Street: Destroyed by fire
The Fremont Bar Uptown: Property damage, looting.
O'Reilly Auto Parts West Broadway: Extensive fire damage.
Broadway Liquor Outlet West Broadway: Property damage, looting.
Quality Tobacco Lake and 1st: Extensive fire damage.
Skol Liquor Store 27th Avenue: Property damage, looting.
Max-It Pawn Shop Cedar Avenue: Extensive fire damage.
Minnehaha Liquor Lake Street: Property damage, looting, extensive fire damage.
Hexagon Bar at E 26th and 27th: Extensive fire damage.
Target Lake Street: Looting, graffiti, property damage, fire damage.
Wendy's Lake Street: Fire, destroyed.
Autozone Lake Street: Fire, destroyed.
Cub Foods Lake Street: Looting, property damage, fire damage.
Under construction affordable housing development at 26th and 29th: Fire, destroyed.
7-Sigma building, 26th and 29th: Fire, extensive damage.
Minneapolis 3rd Police Precinct: Property damage, graffiti.
Dollar Tree off Lake Street: Property damage, looting.
Metro by T-Mobile Lake Street: Fire, extensive damage.
Hi Lake Liquor: Property damage, looting.
Speedway East Lake Street: Property damage.
East Lake Library: Windows smashed, graffiti.
Precision Tune Auto Care Lake Street: Property damage.
U.S. Bank Lake Street: Property damage, graffiti.
Dairy Queen East Lake Street: Property damage.
Papa Murphy's Pizza East Lake Street: Property damage.
Planet Fitness on Lake: Property damage.
Domino's Pizza 26th and 28th: Property damage.
Urban Forage Winery and Cider House, Lake and 29th: Property damage, looting.
Gandhi Mahal Restaurant, 27th and Lake: Window smashed.
Car-X Tire & Auto East Lake Street: Property damage, vehicle smashed through windows.
Frattelone's Ace Hardware East Lake Street: Property damage.
MN Transitions Charter School: Property damage.
Laundro Max East Lake Street: Window smashed.
Soderberg's Floral & Gift East Lake Street: Property damage.
East Lake Clinic: Property damage.
Seward Pharmacy: Window smashed, graffiti.
Electra Tune Auto Care on Lake St: Property damage, vehicle stolen.
Walgreens at 43rd and Chicago: Property damage, looting.
Elevated Beer Wine & Spirits, Hiawatha Ave: Property damage, looting.
Schooner's Tavern, barbershop next door: Fire, property damage.
Seward Co-op, 28th and Franklin: Window smashed, attempted theft of ATM.
Midtown Global Market: Property damage, looting.
Briva Health Lake Street: Window smashed.
Foot Locker East Lake Street: Property damage, looting.
BMO Harris East Lake Street: Property damage.
TCF Bank at 38th and Minnehaha: Property damage.
Studiiyo23 Hennepin Avenue, Uptown: Property damage, looting.
DTLR, Broadway, North Minneapolis: Property damage, looting.
Uptown Pawn: Property damage, looting.
La Familia Skate Shop: Property damage.
Target Uptown: Property damage, looting.
Chicago & Lake Liquor: Property damage, looting.
East Lake Liquor: Property damage, looting.
Ingebretsens on Lake: Property damage, windows smashed.
Freewheel Bike: Property damage, windows smashed.
Hamdi Restaurant, Midtown: Property damage, graffiti.
Hudson's Hardware, East 42nd Street: Property damage and looting.
Birchwood Cafe, East 25th Street: Property damage.
CVS Uptown: Property damage, looting.
Timberland Uptown: Property damage, looting.
Sunnys Wigs 29th and Lyndale: Property damage.
Thurston Jewelers West Lake Street: Property damage.
Banadir Pharmacy West Lake Street: Property damage and looting
Sephora Uptown: Property damage.
Gamestop Uptown: Property damage, looting.
Indulge and Bloom, Uptown: Property damage.
H&M Uptown: Windows smashed.
Apple Store Uptown: Windows smashed., looting.
Urban Outfitters Uptown: Door window smashed.
Smokeless Northeast: Vandalized, closed till further notice.
AutoZone at 501 West Broadway, North Minneapolis: Unconfirmed report of looting, property damage.
Buzzmart, downtown Minneapolis: Property damage.
Town Talk Diner, Lake Street: Extensive property damage.

All that, but they finally got him.

Hello_Hello_Hey posted...

We know you get 6 month purgatories, so keep up the meltdowns and do us a favor

from the guy who got axed

adorable

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Live press conference happening now:

Charged with "murder and manslaughter" according to Mike Freeman.

Third degree murder. May be subsequent charges earlier. Detailed complaint available this afternoon.

Investigation ongoing with other three, but they're taking priority with Derek obviously.

They have the bodycam footage too which is nice. I fully expected "malfunctioning or not on camera" lol

"Exact same charge with Mohammad Noor" (one who shot Justine Damond, the Austrailian woman)

The complete complaint has been completed and is processing. Full copy will be available today.

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I think he should also be charged with second degree murder. I think it's pretty easy to infer the intent to cause bodily harm when the victim and multiple bystanders are screaming, begging, pleading for you to get off the victim's neck, check on him, anything. All while the victim cries and then goes completely limp for minutes. That's beyond reckless, that's intent, even if there was no specific intent to kill him.

They probably went with 3rd degree to be completely sure he got convicted of murder and so they could say they charged him with murder. Because if he somehow walks after the trial, multiple cities will burn.

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legendary_zell posted...

I think he should also be charged with second degree murder. I think it's pretty easy to infer the intent to cause bodily harm when the victim and multiple bystanders are screaming, begging, pleading for you to get off the victim's neck, check on him, anything. All while the victim cries and then goes completely limp for minutes. That's beyond reckless, that's intent, even if there was no specific intent to kill him.

They probably went with 3rd degree to be completely sure he got convicted of murder and so they could say they charged him with murder. Because if he somehow walks after the trial, multiple cities will burn.

Multiple cities may burn as is. It looks like protests and riots are showing up nationwide.

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E32005 posted...

proof? where is your evidence to back this up?

got any film?

nope

Hey bud since you wouldn't account bet me about this why don't you account bet me that there is still a riot tonight?

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It's inarguably first degree murder, and a slew of other charges that they throw at street criminals they are so gung-ho about prosecuting over and telling the news all about.

Cant see these weak ass charges helping the situation any.

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Clear cut first degree murder

He's gonna somehow get a light sentence with these weak ass charges anywhere

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First degree would be hard to prove because it requires premeditation.

ohiostate124 posted...

Asking for evidence when people make claims is lying?

Hmm.

Shut the fuck up.

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AllSasNoTiddies posted...

A list of the buildings damaged, looted in Minneapolis

Park-Nicollet Minneapolis Clinic: Property damage.
K-Mart Lake Street: Property damage.
Penzey's Spices Uptown: Property damage, looting.
Walgreens Hennepin and 27th: Property damage.
Midori's Floating World Cafe Lake Street: Fire damage.
GM Tobacco Lake and 27th: Fire damage.
McDonald's Lake and 31st: Property damage.
Walgreens Central and Lowry in Northeast: Property damage.
Wells Fargo Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
Ladditude Tattoo Lake and 27th: Fire damage.
LV's Barbershop Lake and 27th: Fire damage.
The Hub Bike Co-op Minnehaha and 30th: Property damage.
J-Klips Lake Street: Property damage.
5 Guys Hennepin and 24th: Property damage.
Holiday Hennepin and 25th: Property damage.
Honda Town Lake and 43rd: Property damage.
Tires Plus Lake and 34th: Property damage.
Hennepin County Human Service Center: Property damage.
ICC Wireless Lake Street: Property damage.
Jackson Hewitt Tax Service: Property damage.
Little Caesars Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
Teppanyaki Grill Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
Home Choice Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
Dollar General Lake Street: Extensive fire damage.
Twin Lake Dental: Fire and property damage.
HD Laundry Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
Citi Trends Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
Total Wireless Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
Pineda Tacos Lake Street: Property damage.
Subway Lake Street: Property damage.
7 Mile Fashion Express East Lake Street: Destroyed by fire
The Fremont Bar Uptown: Property damage, looting.
O'Reilly Auto Parts West Broadway: Extensive fire damage.
Broadway Liquor Outlet West Broadway: Property damage, looting.
Quality Tobacco Lake and 1st: Extensive fire damage.
Skol Liquor Store 27th Avenue: Property damage, looting.
Max-It Pawn Shop Cedar Avenue: Extensive fire damage.
Minnehaha Liquor Lake Street: Property damage, looting, extensive fire damage.
Hexagon Bar at E 26th and 27th: Extensive fire damage.
Target Lake Street: Looting, graffiti, property damage, fire damage.
Wendy's Lake Street: Fire, destroyed.
Autozone Lake Street: Fire, destroyed.
Cub Foods Lake Street: Looting, property damage, fire damage.
Under construction affordable housing development at 26th and 29th: Fire, destroyed.
7-Sigma building, 26th and 29th: Fire, extensive damage.
Minneapolis 3rd Police Precinct: Property damage, graffiti.
Dollar Tree off Lake Street: Property damage, looting.
Metro by T-Mobile Lake Street: Fire, extensive damage.
Hi Lake Liquor: Property damage, looting.
Speedway East Lake Street: Property damage.
East Lake Library: Windows smashed, graffiti.
Precision Tune Auto Care Lake Street: Property damage.
U.S. Bank Lake Street: Property damage, graffiti.
Dairy Queen East Lake Street: Property damage.
Papa Murphy's Pizza East Lake Street: Property damage.
Planet Fitness on Lake: Property damage.
Domino's Pizza 26th and 28th: Property damage.
Urban Forage Winery and Cider House, Lake and 29th: Property damage, looting.
Gandhi Mahal Restaurant, 27th and Lake: Window smashed.
Car-X Tire & Auto East Lake Street: Property damage, vehicle smashed through windows.
Frattelone's Ace Hardware East Lake Street: Property damage.
MN Transitions Charter School: Property damage.
Laundro Max East Lake Street: Window smashed.
Soderberg's Floral & Gift East Lake Street: Property damage.
East Lake Clinic: Property damage.
Seward Pharmacy: Window smashed, graffiti.
Electra Tune Auto Care on Lake St: Property damage, vehicle stolen.
Walgreens at 43rd and Chicago: Property damage, looting.
Elevated Beer Wine & Spirits, Hiawatha Ave: Property damage, looting.
Schooner's Tavern, barbershop next door: Fire, property damage.
Seward Co-op, 28th and Franklin: Window smashed, attempted theft of ATM.
Midtown Global Market: Property damage, looting.
Briva Health Lake Street: Window smashed.
Foot Locker East Lake Street: Property damage, looting.
BMO Harris East Lake Street: Property damage.
TCF Bank at 38th and Minnehaha: Property damage.
Studiiyo23 Hennepin Avenue, Uptown: Property damage, looting.
DTLR, Broadway, North Minneapolis: Property damage, looting.
Uptown Pawn: Property damage, looting.
La Familia Skate Shop: Property damage.
Target Uptown: Property damage, looting.
Chicago & Lake Liquor: Property damage, looting.
East Lake Liquor: Property damage, looting.
Ingebretsens on Lake: Property damage, windows smashed.
Freewheel Bike: Property damage, windows smashed.
Hamdi Restaurant, Midtown: Property damage, graffiti.
Hudson's Hardware, East 42nd Street: Property damage and looting.
Birchwood Cafe, East 25th Street: Property damage.
CVS Uptown: Property damage, looting.
Timberland Uptown: Property damage, looting.
Sunnys Wigs 29th and Lyndale: Property damage.
Thurston Jewelers West Lake Street: Property damage.
Banadir Pharmacy West Lake Street: Property damage and looting
Sephora Uptown: Property damage.
Gamestop Uptown: Property damage, looting.
Indulge and Bloom, Uptown: Property damage.
H&M Uptown: Windows smashed.
Apple Store Uptown: Windows smashed., looting.
Urban Outfitters Uptown: Door window smashed.
Smokeless Northeast: Vandalized, closed till further notice.
AutoZone at 501 West Broadway, North Minneapolis: Unconfirmed report of looting, property damage.
Buzzmart, downtown Minneapolis: Property damage.
Town Talk Diner, Lake Street: Extensive property damage.

All that, but they finally got him.

He wouldve been charged without all of that damage.

His firing and the FBI investigation began before the protests and subsequent riots.

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If he's charged he's gonna be doing a lot of time by default no matter the degree

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Eat More Beef posted...

Shut the fuck up.

No?

Charged with Murder AND Manslaughter. Good shit. Now if you can't get him on murder you should be able to easily get him on Manslaughter...

Dude is toast.

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First degree murder under Minnesota state law means they'd have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the murder was premeditated (or committed while performing a sexual act). Even second degree would be tricky because they'd have to prove that it was committed during another felony offense by the officer, or that the Floyd had a protective order against Chauvin.

VipaGTS posted...

Charged with Murder AND Manslaughter. Good shit. Now if you can't get him on murder you should be able to easily get him on Manslaughter...

Dude is toast.

this. You get it.

some people get upset and say he should have been charged with hate crimes and the worst kind of murder!.

the problem with that is that theyre harder to prove, and if you miss the charge then he walks free.

what you want to do is to bring easy charges (manslaughter) and an aspirational charge that may or may not stick (murder), so youre covered

deanshow posted...

If he's charged he's gonna be doing a lot of time by default no matter the degree

Not if the judge gives him a light sentence or probation

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Theyd never prove 1st degree murder unless theres a recording of him saying hes going to kill someone.

He should at least be convicted for manslaughter if the jury cant agree on the murder charge. Gonna be hard to find impartial people too

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IronWolf87 posted...

First degree would be hard to prove because it requires premeditation.

Premeditation is a technicality. And he can certainly be charged and tried for it.

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Theyll convict him on manslaughter, but the murder charge is an appeasement charge.

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P4wn4g3 posted...

Premeditation is a technicality. And he can certainly be charged and tried for it.

And that makes it even harder to prove in court. Do you want the guy to potentially walk?

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EnterTheTekken posted...

And that makes it even harder to prove in court. Do you want the guy to potentially walk?

There's a precedent for reloading a gun counting as premeditation. Because it's the right amount of time to think about your actions. No chance in hell that a jury wouldn't convict him.

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The riots have officially done more good than bad

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P4wn4g3 posted...

There's a precedent for reloading a gun counting as premeditation. Because it's the right amount of time to think about your actions. No chance in hell that a jury wouldn't convict him.

I'm not in disagreement. But the 3rd degree & Man charge reduces the chance of him beating the charges & the best path to conviction. And he most likely will get the max sentence, whatever that may be in MN.

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EnterTheTekken posted...

I'm not in disagreement. But the 3rd degree & Man charge reduces the chance of him beating the charges & the best path to conviction. And he most likely will get the max sentence, whatever that may be in MN.

It just infuriates me. My nephew was charged with 20 charges for dealing drugs. Did he deserve it? Hell yes. Did the police take advantage for political gain? Absolutely. They need to prosecute to the fullest extent on their own as they do anyone else.

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DarkChozoGhost posted...

The riots have officially done more good than bad

Not sure how you can make that claim at this early stage. We havent seen a financial itemization of all the city damage yet, along with the disruption of various government and commercial services. These have an impact on the citizens lives there.

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DarkChozoGhost posted...

The riots have officially done more good than bad

He wasn't arrested because of the riots. Chauvin was always going to be arrested and charged with the same thing he has been charged with. The riots have not done any good.

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abaddon41_80 posted...

He wasn't arrested because of the riots. Chauvin was always going to be arrested and charged with the same thing he has been charged with. The riots have not done any good.

Citation needed.

abaddon41_80 posted...

He wasn't arrested because of the riots. Chauvin was always going to be arrested and charged with the same thing he has been charged with. The riots have not done any good.

then why didn't they do it 3 days ago?

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thronedfire2 posted...

then why didn't they do it 3 days ago?

The prosecutor talked about this earlier today. They were waiting for more evidence to come in like the police body camera footage as well as combing through law statutes to make sure they could be completely confident in the charges they were bringing. He did also mention that he was sensitive to what was going on in the streets in regard to how fast they were moving to bring the charges.

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He'll walk with 0 charges with the support of his buddies in the Republican Party and Trump's justice department pushing on them to acquit.

Third degree. What would first degree be? Deploying a fucking tactical nuke? Jesus christ.

Statical_Pork posted...

Third degree. What would first degree be? Deploying a fucking tactical nuke? Jesus christ.

Being a non police suspect.

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CableZL posted...

The prosecutor talked about this earlier today. They were waiting for more evidence to come in like the police body camera footage as well as combing through law statutes to make sure they could be completely confident in the charges they were bringing. He did also mention that he was sensitive to what was going on in the streets in regard to how fast they were moving to bring the charges.

The police don't need charges ready to arrest someone for a crime. The fact is he was on video performing actions that directly to the death of Floyd and this was enough to get him fired, yet somehow not enough to not only arrest him as well, but send police officers to his own residence to guard him?

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NinjaWarrior455 posted...

The police don't need charges ready to arrest someone for a crime. The fact is he was on video performing actions that directly to the death of Floyd and this was enough to get him fired, yet somehow not enough to not only arrest him as well, but send police officers to his own residence to guard him?

I figure the prosecutor was just hoping this would blow over and brought him in just to appease the riots a bit.

Like I said he'll walk 100% and get his job back

Statical_Pork posted...

Third degree. What would first degree be? Deploying a fucking tactical nuke? Jesus christ.

The way I understand it is as follows:

1st Degree: Cold Blooded murder. You have time to think about it and still kill someone. For example you find your wife is cheating on you and so you decide to murder her in the park later that week.

2nd Degree: You kill someone with intent but it's in the heat of the moment and you're hot blooded. For example you walk in on your wife in bed with another person and then shoot them dead right then and there.

3rd Degree: You kill someone but only intended to hurt them.

Apparently MN is only 1 of 3 states that distinguished 3rd degree murder from manslaughter so it's probably a bit weird.

NinjaWarrior455 posted...

The police don't need charges ready to arrest someone for a crime. The fact is he was on video performing actions that directly to the death of Floyd and this was enough to get him fired, yet somehow not enough to not only arrest him as well, but send police officers to his own residence to guard him?

Yeah, but I don't think police officers are generally going to arrest other police officers without being told to do so by another party.

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So the riots and arson are going to stop now?

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CableZL posted...

Yeah, but I don't think police officers are generally going to arrest other police officers without being told to do so by another party.

Because they protect each other and are above the law. Arresting him or telling him to stop would get the other police officers ganging up on you.

cmiller4642 posted...

Because they protect each other and are above the law. Arresting him or telling him to stop would get the other police officers ganging up on you.

Yeah, retaliation is a big problem. The whole situation in that aspect is like a gang, no snitching, look the other way. The culture needs to be changed.

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there is proof available to the public this is AT LEAST second degree murder....

wtf @ people saying that if he gets charged with anything more than third degree then its too strict....what

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Taharqa_ posted...

Yeah, retaliation is a big problem. The whole situation in that aspect is like a gang, no snitching, look the other way. The culture needs to be changed.

Unfortunately their culture will not be changed. American police departments tolerate and encourage bullying and violence.

AbstraktProfSC2 posted...

there is proof available to the public this is AT LEAST second degree murder....

wtf @ people saying that if he gets charged with anything more than third degree then its too strict....what

The problem is that his defense is going to argue that he did not intend to kill Floyd and I'm not sure how his intent can be proved one way or the other.

IronWolf87 posted...

The problem is that his defense is going to argue that he did not intend to kill Floyd and I'm not sure how his intent can be proved one way or the other.

I think the fact that he willfully kept his knee on Floyd even after he lost consciousness is enough to prove there was malicious intent

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BlueBoy675 posted...

I think the fact that he willfully kept his knee on Floyd even after he lost consciousness is enough to prove there was malicious intent

Right but was it intent to kill or to harm? Alao please bear in mind I think Chauvin is a fucking murderer but these are the arguments his defense will make and the prosecution will have to overcome.

Also keep in mind cop loving fuckwits will no doubt contribute to a go fund me for Chauvin and he will have access to very good lawyers.

And also keep in mind is how much do we actually trust the DA to put forth a full effort in this case when it could very well damage their relationship with the cops they work with and rely on.

Make no mistake I think Chauvin is a fucking monster but this is sadly far from a slam dunk case.

Are you an expert on Minnesota criminal law? Because this really seems to me like a very cut and dry case, unless there is some technicality with how they define murder or whatever.

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