Current Events > "You can always put on more layers!"

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1. No, you really can't. Suppose you're wearing four trench coats. How are you going to find the flexibility to put on a fifth?

2. You know how when you go outside and it's hot, you're like "Ugh this is mildly to moderately unpleasant" but when you go outside and it's cold, you're like "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH CURSE THIS LIFE, CURSE THIS PLANET, IF THERE IS ANY JUSTICE IN THE WORLD, I WILL DIE RATHER THAN ENDURE THIS MISERY A MOMENT LONGER"? This is kind of an underrated factor in this debate.

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Is this a deupd u parody

i think the thing is a lot of people just dont understand what its like to experience weeks at a time of temperatures below -10 F

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Where are you living that five trench coats is necessary?

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DevsBro posted...

2. You know how when you go outside and it's hot, you're like "Ugh this is mildly to moderately unpleasant" but when you go outside and it's cold, you're like "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH CURSE THIS LIFE, CURSE THIS PLANET, IF THERE IS ANY JUSTICE IN THE WORLD, I WILL DIE RATHER THAN ENDURE THIS MISERY A MOMENT LONGER"? This is kind of an underrated factor in this debate.

You got hot and cold mixed up there bud

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I'm completely the opposite on point no. 2

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Yeah you can

And number 2 is the complete opposite. You can layer up. You can't strip naked in the heat besides in private and that still only helps so much.

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refmon posted...

You got hot and cold mixed up there bud

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Put on better layers

Also this
EmbraceOfDeath posted...

refmon posted...

You got hot and cold mixed up there bud

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if you're still feeling cold after putting on 4 layers then I don't know what to tell you

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I'm the complete opposite of this entire OP.

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Like have yall ever been outside in the kind of cold where your boogers freeze instantly around the rim of your nostrils?

i would much much rather spend a half hour in hundred plus degree heat than in -20 degree cold, where its painful to even keep your eyes open. You cant cover up enough to make that manageable

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cold & wet & age 14 or under > 50-80f > cold & dry > hot & dry > cold & wet age 15+ > waiting at the dmv > using a porter potty at a festival > hot and humid > using a porter potty when it's hot and humid

TheGoldenEel posted...

i think the thing is a lot of people just dont understand what its like to experience weeks at a time of temperatures below -10 F

do you even midwest? that's shorts and a hoodie weather.

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Is this basically about the fight over the thermostat in the office that feminists are claiming is sexist because it is set to what is comfortable for men?

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I Like Toast posted...

cold & wet & age 14 or under > 50-80f > cold & dry > hot & dry > cold & wet age 15+ > waiting at the dmv > using a porter potty at a festival > hot and humid > using a porter potty when it's hot and humid

do you even midwest? that's shorts and a hoodie weather.

I live in Wisconsin and I damn sure know that its not shorts weather until it warms up to 20

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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...

I'm not sure what this is about. Layering is literally the best way to protect yourself in cold environments.

The argument is about would you rather deal with extreme hot or extreme cold

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It's also bullshit when people say you can warm up faster than cool down. Nah, I walk into my air conditioned house after mowing and I'm done sweating and comfortable in short order. When I walk into my heated house after shoveling the driveway my limbs are still fucking frigid a half hour later.
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1. If you're wearing a trench coat to stay warm, you're doing it wrong. A wool peacoat and fleece earmuffs is enough to keep me generally warm enough to get from my car to a heated building and back again.

2. Ummm....lol no. If anything I curse the world in the face of hot weather, not cold.
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TheGoldenEel posted...

The argument is about would you rather deal with extreme hot or extreme cold

and the correct answer to both is, enjoy modern life and stay inside where heat/ac exist to keep it the ideal temperature.

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In my experience, this argument is usually about keeping the thermostat between:

• Cold: 68-72
• Still cold to some people: 72-75
• Hot: Fucking 78+
• Still hot to some people: 75-78

In an office where you're wearing a shirt and pants, hot temperatures are even worse. But even outside an office, 80 degrees in a house full of people is stupid.

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When it's cold you can't just keep putting more layers on but when its hot girls can keep taking off clothes

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TheGoldenEel posted...

i would much much rather spend a half hour in hundred plus degree heat than in -20 degree cold,

In the continental US you're much much more likely to encounter the former than the latter.
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I legit dont get cold so I will take frigid weather over extreme heat any day.

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I cannot stand being hot and sweaty. Humid heat (which is the only heat my area gets) is the absolute worst weather in existence. I love walking outside into a crisp, cold winter morning.

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Gamerguymass posted...

Is this basically about the fight over the thermostat in the office that feminists are claiming is sexist because it is set to what is comfortable for men?

That actually kind of makes sense, but it's not so much about there being some biological inclination toward different temps between the sexes (I'd be interested to see if this is a thing though) so much as dudes in the office wearing darker colors and more layers than chicks in the office. I think it's kind of an outdated notion in some places, since most everybody in my office for example wears khaki/tan pants--male or female--but it's not like suits and dresses don't still happen. Executives, interviews, presentations, etc.

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A dry heat is tolerable. Wet and humid is actual cancer.

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I have thermals. I can deal with cold. There's only so much I can do about extreme heat (i.e. linen and tech fabrics) and still be decent for the public.

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It really depends on the climate.

Where I live, it's very humid. The humidity is what makes it unpleasant, not the temperature.

'Winter' only lasts about a month and a half and it only gets down to like ~10 degrees C.

TheGoldenEel posted...

i think the thing is a lot of people just dont understand what its like to experience weeks at a time of temperatures below -10 F

This.

There's a much, much lower ceiling for it being hot, compared to a ridiculously low floor for it being cold.

Plus, outside of extreme heat, the worst thing that happens when it's hot is you get sweaty and uncomfortable. Even in mild cold, you can develop frostbite and hypothermia.

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LostForest posted...

This.

There's a much, much lower ceiling for it being hot, compared to a ridiculously low floor for it being cold.

Plus, outside of extreme heat, the worst thing that happens when it's hot is you get sweaty and uncomfortable. Even in mild cold, you can develop frostbite and hypothermia.

First of all, the quote TC made is about thermostat temperatures.
Second, 90 degree heat is common where I live and working in the heat can absolutely be dangerous.
Third, what is "mild" cold? To many people, that's 72 degrees or lower. I don't think you get frostbite at 72 degrees.

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ChocoboMog123 posted...

First of all, the quote TC made is about thermostat temperatures.
Second, 90 degree heat is common where I live and working in the heat can absolutely be dangerous.
Third, what is "mild" cold? To many people, that's 72 degrees or lower. I don't think you get frostbite at 72 degrees.

Lol bro mild cold is like 20s and 30s

and youre talking working in hot weather whereas merely being outside for five minutes in extreme cold is life threatening

like schools have snow days here sometimes simply because it gets too cold for kids to safely wait outside for the bus

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More layer = less comfortable most of the time

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refmon posted...

You got hot and cold mixed up there bud

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DevsBro posted...

That actually kind of makes sense, but it's not so much about there being some biological inclination toward different temps between the sexes (I'd be interested to see if this is a thing though) so much as dudes in the office wearing darker colors and more layers than chicks in the office. I think it's kind of an outdated notion in some places, since most everybody in my office for example wears khaki/tan pants--male or female--but it's not like suits and dresses don't still happen. Executives, interviews, presentations, etc.

No its real. Women actually do get colder then men while men tend to run a little hotter. The thing with the thermostat though is that as much as feminists want to whine sexism, women can put clothes on if they are cold in an office, men can't take clothes off.

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It doesn't fucking matter except girls are more naked in hot weather

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TheGoldenEel posted...

Lol bro mild cold is like 20s and 30s

and youre talking working in hot weather whereas merely being outside for five minutes in extreme cold is life threatening

lolbro I've literally had many people tell me that 72 degrees is, "brrr freezing," then turn up the thermostat (or try) and put on several layers of clothes.

Extreme heat is also life threatening, Severe heat waves often produce large "spikes" in mortality, especially during the 1995 heat wave across the Midwest. However, abnormally cold conditions have little effect on the standardized daily mortality. For example, February 1996, a cold period across much of the United States, produced no spikes in winter mortality levels. Similarly, from the 2016 U.S. National Climate Assessment: The relationship between mortality and an additional day of extreme heat is generally much larger than the relationship between mortality and an additional day of extreme cold.
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Which-Kills-More-People-Extreme-Heat-or-Extreme-Cold

Both extreme heat and extreme cold can be life threatening. But, again and again, "just put on more layers" refers to office temperatures.

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I agree with both points in the OP, especially the second. Being in uncomfortably cold weather is painful, while being in uncomfortably hot weather is just kinda aggravating. Obviously there are limits in both directions, but "too cold for me" sucks way more than "too hot for me".

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Hambo the Hog posted...

I agree with both points in the OP, especially the second. Being in uncomfortably cold weather is painful, while being in uncomfortably hot weather is just kinda aggravating. Obviously there are limits in both directions, but "too cold for me" sucks way more than "too hot for me".

Same.

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I can deal with the heat, and the cold. But, I'd rather be outside on a hot/humid day then a cold/windy one.

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I'm extremely sensitive to heat. Anything above 20 degrees celsius and I get nauseous, confused, have horrible nightmares, have more seizures and generally feel miserable.

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Walking outside when it is cold is very much argh why fuck life fuck everything this is hell

walking outside when it is hot is more of a pressure on my face and an awareness that this could be dangerous but will be manageable if Im careful

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As an aside, I believe when some people scoff at the idea of a difference between dry and humid heat (there are actually people who don't believe you can feel a difference), then they have never been in truly hot dry and truly hot humid places.

Houston summer feels very, very different from Las Vegas summer.
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106 here in Vegas. I'd rather take our mid 30s winters than this hell we're in right now.
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Just walking across a parking lot can be awful in extreme cold. Its never that bad in extreme heat.

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Mildly hot is better than mildly cold, but way cold is better than way hot. You can be reasonably comfortable in way cold. You can never be comfortable in way hot.

nemu posted...

Mildly hot is better than mildly cold, but way cold is better than way hot. You can be reasonable comfortable in way cold. You can never be comfortable in way hot.

I think this could also be put in a situation where water that touches you evaporates suddenly vs being soaking wet in a moist environment with no way to completely dry off

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Objectively, extreme heat is better than extreme cold.

Extreme heat is extremely uncomfortable. Extreme cold is literally painful.

No amount of lairs will keep you comfortable on an extreme cold and windy day. Drink plenty of water and you can slog it out a terrible hot/humid day.

And if you work an office job, safer conditions for your commute on a hot day than one where there's snow or ice on the ground. Then you hit the office and it doesn't matter anyways.

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doomcrusader posted...

Objectively, extreme heat is better than extreme cold.

Extreme heat is extremely uncomfortable. Extreme cold is literally painful.

No amount of lairs will keep you comfortable on an extreme cold and windy day. Drink plenty of water and you can slog it out a terrible hot/humid day.

And if you work an office job, safer conditions for your commute on a hot day than one where there's snow or ice on the ground. Then you hit the office and it doesn't matter anyways.

Stuck in a desert vs stuck in the artic. There's also worse predators in the desert and generally nowhere to share yourself

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