Current Events > Now some time has passed, where do you stand on the whole gay cake thing?

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UnfairRepresent 05/26/20 9:49:23 PM #1:	Should a businsess be allowed to decline a gay custom product? Yes No Should a businsess be allowed to decline a gay custom product? - Results (23 votes) Yes 47.83% (11 votes) 11 No 52.17% (12 votes) 12 There were multiple stories and incidents a few years back but all centered around the same general principal. A gay person or couple entered a Christian businsess (Usually a bakery) and requested a custom gay product (usually a cake) for a wedding or a birthday or an event or something. The businsess would refuse on "Religious moral grounds" and then the customer would sue for discrimination. Then public hysteria would brew and lots of people would scream at each other. https://i.imgur.com/pGoAW2W.jpg The question boils down to: Is a private businsess allowed to refuse custom services or should discrimination protections supercede businsess rights? I think it's fair to say that if a bakery refused to serve a Mexican couple, everyone would be against them. But if a bakery refused to make a gun cake to celebrate firearms for a 2A loving couple, everyone would say it's their right. So where is the line drawn? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:939757400] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote> Should a businsess be allowed to decline a gay custom product? Yes No Vote View Results Should a businsess be allowed to decline a gay custom product? - Results (23 votes) Yes 47.83% (11 votes) 11 No 52.17% (12 votes) 12 Show Voting Form There were multiple stories and incidents a few years back but all centered around the same general principal. A gay person or couple entered a Christian businsess (Usually a bakery) and requested a custom gay product (usually a cake) for a wedding or a birthday or an event or something. The businsess would refuse on "Religious moral grounds" and then the customer would sue for discrimination. Then public hysteria would brew and lots of people would scream at each other. https://i.imgur.com/pGoAW2W.jpg The question boils down to: Is a private businsess allowed to refuse custom services or should discrimination protections supercede businsess rights? I think it's fair to say that if a bakery refused to serve a Mexican couple, everyone would be against them. But if a bakery refused to make a gun cake to celebrate firearms for a 2A loving couple, everyone would say it's their right. So where is the line drawn?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 05/26/20 9:50:27 PM #2:	I voted. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:939757448] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>I voted. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mecha Sonic 05/26/20 9:51:03 PM #3:	no, it's discrimination --- https://imgur.com/iMNC6RU <cite>Mecha Sonic posted [p:939757476] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>no, it's discrimination </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pepper2012 05/26/20 9:53:58 PM #4:	If I own and operate my own business I should be able to say no to anyone for any reason. End of discussion. Maybe I think oreo cake tastes like shit and I just refuse anyone who insists on oreo it really doesnt matter. Of course you cant always say why youre refusing someone so obviously if you own the business you need to have a few handy lines ready for whenever customers come in you don't want to serve. Answers or methods that are politically correct like just say sure and never actually make the cake then before they come to get it say it fell then refund them over the phone. <cite>pepper2012 posted [p:939757611] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>If I own and operate my own business I should be able to say no to anyone for any reason. End of discussion. Maybe I think oreo cake tastes like shit and I just refuse anyone who insists on oreo it really doesnt matter. Of course you cant always say why youre refusing someone so obviously if you own the business you need to have a few handy lines ready for whenever customers come in you don't want to serve. Answers or methods that are politically correct like just say sure and never actually make the cake then before they come to get it say it fell then refund them over the phone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cmiller4642 05/26/20 9:55:30 PM #5:	I think if that's the case you should advertise that you're a bigoted business right out front. Use it in your marketing on social media and everything like that. <cite>cmiller4642 posted [p:939757691] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>I think if that's the case you should advertise that you're a bigoted business right out front. Use it in your marketing on social media and everything like that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/26/20 9:57:03 PM #6:	pepper2012 posted... If I own and operate my own business I should be able to say no to anyone for any reason So you should be allowed to refuse to serve black guys or women for the reason of not liking them? cmiller4642 posted... I think if that's the case you should advertise that you're a bigoted business right out front. Use it in your marketing on social media and everything like that. Well most Christian businsesses are open about being Christian. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:939757767] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>pepper2012 posted...</cite> <quote>If I own and operate my own business I should be able to say no to anyone for any reason</quote> So you should be allowed to refuse to serve black guys or women for the reason of not liking them? cmiller4642 posted...</cite> <quote>I think if that's the case you should advertise that you're a bigoted business right out front. Use it in your marketing on social media and everything like that. </quote> Well most Christian businsesses are open about being Christian.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BettyWhite 05/26/20 9:57:25 PM #7:	cmiller4642 posted... I think if that's the case you should advertise that you're a bigoted business right out front. Use it in your marketing on social media and everything like that. This. As a straight dude who wouldn't be turned down, I would want to make sure I would never patronize such an establishment. --- Life is pain and misery beat skeet to asian street meat <cite>BettyWhite posted [p:939757790] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>cmiller4642 posted... </cite> <quote>I think if that's the case you should advertise that you're a bigoted business right out front. Use it in your marketing on social media and everything like that.</quote> This. As a straight dude who wouldn't be turned down, I would want to make sure I would never patronize such an establishment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Bitcoin 05/26/20 10:07:36 PM #8:	Refuse to bake a cake for gay people? Its fine, said the red hat, because, freedom! refuse to give life-saving medical attention at an ER trauma unit to a gay person? Its fine, said the red hat, because, religious liberty! refuse a Genos cheesteak to a customer unless he orders it in perfect, no-accent English? Its fine, because, patriotism, said the red hat refuse to serve people wearing MAGA hats, at a Mexican restaurant or Huckabee Sanders at a breakfast restaurant, or refuse to allow grocery store customers not wearing a face mask in the middle of a pandemic? WAAAHHHHHHHH!! OUTRAGE!! DISCRIMINATION! Said the red hat <cite>The_Bitcoin posted [p:939758208] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>Refuse to bake a cake for gay people? Its fine, said the red hat, because, freedom! refuse to give life-saving medical attention at an ER trauma unit to a gay person? Its fine, said the red hat, because, religious liberty! refuse a Genos cheesteak to a customer unless he orders it in perfect, no-accent English? Its fine, because, patriotism, said the red hat refuse to serve people wearing MAGA hats, at a Mexican restaurant or Huckabee Sanders at a breakfast restaurant, or refuse to allow grocery store customers not wearing a face mask in the middle of a pandemic? WAAAHHHHHHHH!! OUTRAGE!! DISCRIMINATION! Said the red hat </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 05/26/20 10:09:19 PM #9:	Mecha Sonic posted... no, it's discrimination Nope. They weren't refused business, cakes were offered. --- Oda break tracker 2020- 2 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 13-1 \| Oakland Raiders: 7-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:939758274] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>Mecha Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>no, it's discrimination </quote> Nope. They weren't refused business, cakes were offered.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Bitcoin 05/26/20 10:12:00 PM #10:	voldothegr8 posted... Nope. They weren't refused business, cakes were offered. wedding cakes? otherwise imagine you walk into burger kind and try to get an order and they deny you burgers but will sell you cherry tomatoes <cite>The_Bitcoin posted [p:939758374] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted... </cite> <quote>Nope. They weren't refused business, cakes were offered.</quote> wedding cakes? otherwise imagine you walk into burger kind and try to get an order and they deny you burgers but will sell you cherry tomatoes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 05/26/20 10:12:47 PM #11:	The_Bitcoin posted... wedding cakes? otherwise imagine you walk into burger kind and try to get an order and they deny you burgers but will sell you cherry tomatoes Any of their default designs were offered --- Oda break tracker 2020- 2 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 13-1 \| Oakland Raiders: 7-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:939758408] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>The_Bitcoin posted...</cite> <quote> wedding cakes? otherwise imagine you walk into burger kind and try to get an order and they deny you burgers but will sell you cherry tomatoes </quote> Any of their default designs were offered</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/26/20 10:13:22 PM #12:	The_Bitcoin posted... wedding cakes? otherwise imagine you walk into burger kind and try to get an order and they deny you burgers but will sell you cherry tomatoes No he means they could order any generic cake but they would not make a custom one. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:939758428] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>The_Bitcoin posted...</cite> <quote> wedding cakes? otherwise imagine you walk into burger kind and try to get an order and they deny you burgers but will sell you cherry tomatoes </quote> No he means they could order any generic cake but they would not make a custom one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 05/26/20 10:14:51 PM #13:	Its fine for businesses to refuse service to gay people What? You want me to wear a mask in your store? This is outrageous I have rights you commie!!!! --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:939758488] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>Its fine for businesses to refuse service to gay people What? You want me to wear a mask in your store? This is outrageous I have rights you commie!!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Bitcoin 05/26/20 10:14:54 PM #14:	UnfairRepresent posted... No he means they could order any generic cake but they would not make a custom one. right. And all they sell is non-generic cakes. <cite>The_Bitcoin posted [p:939758492] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>No he means they could order any generic cake but they would not make a custom one.</quote> right. And all they sell is non-generic cakes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Bitcoin 05/26/20 10:15:30 PM #15:	voldothegr8 posted... Any of their default designs were offered I find it hard to believe they didnt have a default wedding design <cite>The_Bitcoin posted [p:939758517] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted... </cite> <quote>Any of their default designs were offered</quote> I find it hard to believe they didnt have a default wedding design </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 05/26/20 10:15:46 PM #16:	The_Bitcoin posted... right. And all they sell is non-generic cakes. Why are you making shit up? --- Oda break tracker 2020- 2 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 13-1 \| Oakland Raiders: 7-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:939758525] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>The_Bitcoin posted...</cite> <quote> right. And all they sell is non-generic cakes. </quote> Why are you making shit up?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 05/26/20 10:15:49 PM #17:	The_Bitcoin posted... Refuse to bake a cake for gay people? Its fine, said the red hat, because, freedom! refuse to give life-saving medical attention at an ER trauma unit to a gay person? Its fine, said the red hat, because, religious liberty! refuse a Genos cheesteak to a customer unless he orders it in perfect, no-accent English? Its fine, because, patriotism, said the red hat refuse to serve people wearing MAGA hats, at a Mexican restaurant or Huckabee Sanders at a breakfast restaurant, or refuse to allow grocery store customers not wearing a face mask in the middle of a pandemic? WAAAHHHHHHHH!! OUTRAGE!! DISCRIMINATION! Said the red hat this is too accurate to laugh at. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:939758528] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>The_Bitcoin posted... </cite> <quote>Refuse to bake a cake for gay people? Its fine, said the red hat, because, freedom! refuse to give life-saving medical attention at an ER trauma unit to a gay person? Its fine, said the red hat, because, religious liberty! refuse a Genos cheesteak to a customer unless he orders it in perfect, no-accent English? Its fine, because, patriotism, said the red hat refuse to serve people wearing MAGA hats, at a Mexican restaurant or Huckabee Sanders at a breakfast restaurant, or refuse to allow grocery store customers not wearing a face mask in the middle of a pandemic? WAAAHHHHHHHH!! OUTRAGE!! DISCRIMINATION! Said the red hat</quote> this is too accurate to laugh at. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unit7 05/26/20 10:15:58 PM #18:	At least one of those incidents involved the bakery doxxing the couple and thats why they were sued... <cite>Unit7 posted [p:939758537] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>At least one of those incidents involved the bakery doxxing the couple and thats why they were sued... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/26/20 10:16:24 PM #19:	The_Bitcoin posted... I find it hard to believe they didnt have a default wedding design Well any cake can be a wedding cake if you use it at a wedding --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:939758555] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>The_Bitcoin posted...</cite> <quote> I find it hard to believe they didnt have a default wedding design </quote> Well any cake can be a wedding cake if you use it at a wedding</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 05/26/20 10:16:52 PM #20:	I don't like this weird, forced situation. In reality, they just go to a different cake place and the community hopefully black lists the other bakery I don't like people being forced to do something they don't want to do and I don't like -isms --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:939758577] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>I don't like this weird, forced situation. In reality, they just go to a different cake place and the community hopefully black lists the other bakery I don't like people being forced to do something they don't want to do and I don't like -isms </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/26/20 10:18:20 PM #21:	Unsugarized_Foo posted... I don't like this weird, forced situation. In reality, they just go to a different cake place and the community hopefully black lists the other bakery I don't like people being forced to do something they don't want to do and I don't like -isms I don't think the gay couple liked being forced to go another bakery which wasn't the one of their choice. But you seem okay with them being forced to do something they don't want to do. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:939758647] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>Unsugarized_Foo posted...</cite> <quote>I don't like this weird, forced situation. In reality, they just go to a different cake place and the community hopefully black lists the other bakery I don't like people being forced to do something they don't want to do and I don't like -isms </quote> I don't think the gay couple liked being forced to go another bakery which wasn't the one of their choice. But you seem okay with them being forced to do something they don't want to do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KillerKhan420 05/26/20 10:19:15 PM #22:	When I eat a cake I make sure it's been tested for homosexuality as to not get any homosexual cake in my mouth, then it might turn me gay! First the water and now the cakes. The government wants me gay for some reason but so far I've dodged the gay bullet but I think me driving a Kia soul gives out the wrong signs. Ok I'm probably already gay ffs. Give me a slice of the fucking cake. --- "I know how the business works because I'm a wrestling fan"-hulkhogan1 <cite>KillerKhan420 posted [p:939758696] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>When I eat a cake I make sure it's been tested for homosexuality as to not get any homosexual cake in my mouth, then it might turn me gay! First the water and now the cakes. The government wants me gay for some reason but so far I've dodged the gay bullet but I think me driving a Kia soul gives out the wrong signs. Ok I'm probably already gay ffs. Give me a slice of the fucking cake. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 05/26/20 10:22:03 PM #24:	UnfairRepresent posted... I don't think the gay couple liked being forced to go another bakery which wasn't the one of their choice. But you seem okay with them being forced to do something they don't want to do. I don't think I've seen a case yet that wasn't pre-setup on this. But of they want a gay cake, somewhere that will do a gay cake. I don't take my car to a Toyota mechanic that won't work on my BMW. Besides the batter will taste like resentment...love needs to be baked in --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:939758813] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>I don't think the gay couple liked being forced to go another bakery which wasn't the one of their choice. But you seem okay with them being forced to do something they don't want to do.</quote> I don't think I've seen a case yet that wasn't pre-setup on this. But of they want a gay cake, somewhere that will do a gay cake. I don't take my car to a Toyota mechanic that won't work on my BMW. Besides the batter will taste like resentment...love needs to be baked in </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/26/20 10:23:55 PM #25:	If it's just a wedding cake for a gay wedding they should do it. If it's a custom cake they don't offer normally they can decline. If it's a written message they don't want to do they can simply sell the standard cake to the customer and the tools for the customer to write a message themselves. If they turn down a customer because of their orientation instead of the product they're asking for it's discrimination, --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:939758889] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>If it's just a wedding cake for a gay wedding they should do it. If it's a custom cake they don't offer normally they can decline. If it's a written message they don't want to do they can simply sell the standard cake to the customer and the tools for the customer to write a message themselves. If they turn down a customer because of their orientation instead of the product they're asking for it's discrimination, </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/26/20 10:24:44 PM #26:	Unsugarized_Foo posted... I don't think I've seen a case yet that wasn't pre-setup on this. But of they want a gay cake, somewhere that will do a gay cake. I don't take my car to a Toyota mechanic that won't work on my BMW. Besides the batter will taste like resentment...love needs to be baked in That's not comparable at all. Cakes are not cars Any bakery can bake a cake. The Christians aren't opposing due to brands or different mechanical components. They are refusing on moral grounds. Toyota isn't refusing to give you BMW parts on moral grounds. You just dodged the actual point and rambled instead --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:939758925] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>Unsugarized_Foo posted...</cite> <quote> I don't think I've seen a case yet that wasn't pre-setup on this. But of they want a gay cake, somewhere that will do a gay cake. I don't take my car to a Toyota mechanic that won't work on my BMW. Besides the batter will taste like resentment...love needs to be baked in </quote> That's not comparable at all. Cakes are not cars Any bakery can bake a cake. The Christians aren't opposing due to brands or different mechanical components. They are refusing on moral grounds. Toyota isn't refusing to give you BMW parts on moral grounds. You just dodged the actual point and rambled instead</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 05/26/20 10:25:46 PM #27:	UnfairRepresent posted... That's not comparable at all. Cakes are not cars Any bakery can bake a cake. The Christians aren't opposing due to brands or different mechanical components. They are refusing on moral grounds. Toyota isn't refusing to give you BMW parts on moral grounds. You just dodged the actual point and rambled instead Fuck em then --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:939758961] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>That's not comparable at all. Cakes are not cars Any bakery can bake a cake. The Christians aren't opposing due to brands or different mechanical components. They are refusing on moral grounds. Toyota isn't refusing to give you BMW parts on moral grounds. You just dodged the actual point and rambled instead</quote> Fuck em then </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suchomimus 05/26/20 10:29:40 PM #28:	There's plenty of bakeries that will cater to gay customers. Forcing your ideology on a business shouldn't be a thing. --- I'm a peasant. <cite>Suchomimus posted [p:939759119] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>There's plenty of bakeries that will cater to gay customers. Forcing your ideology on a business shouldn't be a thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OffTempo 05/26/20 10:31:07 PM #29:	Businesses shouldn't have an obligation to anyone. If they don't want to serve someone thats their decision to make. That being said it sucks they couldn't get the cake they wanted but I'm sure there was somewhere else they could take their business. --- Interviewer: "You're not even a superhero you're more of a vampire slayer." Blade: "Don't do that" <cite>OffTempo posted [p:939759172] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>Businesses shouldn't have an obligation to anyone. If they don't want to serve someone thats their decision to make. That being said it sucks they couldn't get the cake they wanted but I'm sure there was somewhere else they could take their business. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 05/26/20 10:32:30 PM #31:	OffTempo posted... Businesses shouldn't have an obligation to anyone. If they don't want to serve someone thats their decision to make. So should a businsess be allowed to refuse service to black people and Jews like in the 30s? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:939759227] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>OffTempo posted...</cite> <quote>Businesses shouldn't have an obligation to anyone. If they don't want to serve someone thats their decision to make. </quote> So should a businsess be allowed to refuse service to black people and Jews like in the 30s?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/26/20 10:32:35 PM #32:	Discrimination is bad and it is good when it is illegal --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:939759231] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>Discrimination is bad and it is good when it is illegal </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 05/26/20 10:33:00 PM #33:	Suchomimus posted... There's plenty of bakeries that will cater to gay customers. Forcing your ideology on a business shouldn't be a thing. ignorance of history is nothing to be proud of. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:939759253] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>Suchomimus posted... </cite> <quote>There's plenty of bakeries that will cater to gay customers. Forcing your ideology on a business shouldn't be a thing.</quote> ignorance of history is nothing to be proud of. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kolibri X 05/26/20 10:33:25 PM #34:	The_Bitcoin posted... Refuse to bake a cake for gay people? Its fine, said the red hat, because, freedom! refuse to give life-saving medical attention at an ER trauma unit to a gay person? Its fine, said the red hat, because, religious liberty! refuse a Genos cheesteak to a customer unless he orders it in perfect, no-accent English? Its fine, because, patriotism, said the red hat refuse to serve people wearing MAGA hats, at a Mexican restaurant or Huckabee Sanders at a breakfast restaurant, or refuse to allow grocery store customers not wearing a face mask in the middle of a pandemic? WAAAHHHHHHHH!! OUTRAGE!! DISCRIMINATION! Said the red hat This is stupid. They could still buy a cake. They just refsued to make a custom cake the way they wanted it. --- Platinum GameFAQs Member <cite>Kolibri X posted [p:939759270] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>The_Bitcoin posted... </cite> <quote>Refuse to bake a cake for gay people? Its fine, said the red hat, because, freedom! refuse to give life-saving medical attention at an ER trauma unit to a gay person? Its fine, said the red hat, because, religious liberty! refuse a Genos cheesteak to a customer unless he orders it in perfect, no-accent English? Its fine, because, patriotism, said the red hat refuse to serve people wearing MAGA hats, at a Mexican restaurant or Huckabee Sanders at a breakfast restaurant, or refuse to allow grocery store customers not wearing a face mask in the middle of a pandemic? WAAAHHHHHHHH!! OUTRAGE!! DISCRIMINATION! Said the red hat</quote> This is stupid. They could still buy a cake. They just refsued to make a custom cake the way they wanted it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 05/26/20 10:33:37 PM #35:	These businesses agreed to operate within the confines of the law when they opened their business. Why should they be given special treatment to ignore the laws they already agreed to obey? <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:939759279] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>These businesses agreed to operate within the confines of the law when they opened their business. Why should they be given special treatment to ignore the laws they already agreed to obey? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/26/20 10:34:28 PM #36:	TheOtherMike posted... These businesses agreed to operate within the confines of the law when they opened their business. Why should they be given special treatment to ignore the laws they already agreed to obey? Because gay people make them feel icky --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:939759313] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted... </cite> <quote>These businesses agreed to operate within the confines of the law when they opened their business. Why should they be given special treatment to ignore the laws they already agreed to obey?</quote>Because gay people make them feel icky </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/26/20 10:38:16 PM #37:	TheOtherMike posted... These businesses agreed to operate within the confines of the law when they opened their business. Why should they be given special treatment to ignore the laws they already agreed to obey? Whether or not they broke the law is disputed That's the entire point. Look how divided the poll is, look at how many court cases there were. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:939759471] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted...</cite> <quote>These businesses agreed to operate within the confines of the law when they opened their business. Why should they be given special treatment to ignore the laws they already agreed to obey? </quote> Whether or not they broke the law is disputed That's the entire point. Look how divided the poll is, look at how many court cases there were.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 05/26/20 10:38:52 PM #38:	UnfairRepresent posted... Whether or not they broke the law is disputed No it isn't. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:939759495] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Whether or not they broke the law is disputed</quote> No it isn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/26/20 10:39:40 PM #39:	Weird how many people are ok with treating gay people as an other group. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:939759529] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>Weird how many people are ok with treating gay people as an other group. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
epik_fail1 05/26/20 10:40:29 PM #40:	I don't think they should. But I also don't think they should have their whole life ruined because they refused to bake a cake. --- Dragaux for smash! <cite>epik_fail1 posted [p:939759565] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>I don't think they should. But I also don't think they should have their whole life ruined because they refused to bake a cake. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Bitcoin 05/26/20 10:41:15 PM #41:	OffTempo posted... Businesses shouldn't have an obligation to anyone. If they don't want to serve someone thats their decision to make. That being said it sucks they couldn't get the cake they wanted but I'm sure there was somewhere else they could take their business. what kind of America do you want to live in? imagine youre having breakfast at the diner and then you see a black couple sit in the table in front of you and they get kicked out and someone points to the no blacks, Asians or gays sign at the entrance. Do you really feel like finishing your meal? imagine there is a criminal and a gay cop gets shot trying to protect people and then he is in the ER and some mike pence wannabe doctor is like let him bleed, he is gay and I wont touch him fuck that, this is wrong and immoral and shame on you for advocating this <cite>The_Bitcoin posted [p:939759585] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>OffTempo posted... </cite> <quote>Businesses shouldn't have an obligation to anyone. If they don't want to serve someone thats their decision to make. That being said it sucks they couldn't get the cake they wanted but I'm sure there was somewhere else they could take their business.</quote> what kind of America do you want to live in? imagine youre having breakfast at the diner and then you see a black couple sit in the table in front of you and they get kicked out and someone points to the no blacks, Asians or gays sign at the entrance. Do you really feel like finishing your meal? imagine there is a criminal and a gay cop gets shot trying to protect people and then he is in the ER and some mike pence wannabe doctor is like let him bleed, he is gay and I wont touch him fuck that, this is wrong and immoral and shame on you for advocating this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/26/20 10:41:29 PM #42:	TheOtherMike posted... No it isn't. I guess all the lawsuits were just performance art then. Sigless user logic. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:939759593] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>TheOtherMike posted...</cite> <quote> No it isn't. </quote> I guess all the lawsuits were just performance art then. Sigless user logic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Bitcoin 05/26/20 10:42:29 PM #43:	Kolibri X posted... This is stupid. They could still buy a cake. They just refsued to make a custom cake the way they wanted it. yes they can still buy a cake in San Francisco or Canada, right? Whew! Problem solved! /s <cite>The_Bitcoin posted [p:939759642] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>Kolibri X posted... </cite> <quote>This is stupid. They could still buy a cake. They just refsued to make a custom cake the way they wanted it.</quote> yes they can still buy a cake in San Francisco or Canada, right? Whew! Problem solved! /s </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 05/26/20 10:42:39 PM #45:	ufoivy posted... I agree with this, which is why a business should be allowed to refuse that request. With that said, no, they should not be allowed to refuse a fucking sale of a cake that is ready to go and available simply because they think the person wanting to buy the cake may or may not be gay. They were offered default cakes --- Oda break tracker 2020- 2 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 13-1 \| Oakland Raiders: 7-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:939759652] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>ufoivy posted...</cite> <quote> I agree with this, which is why a business should be allowed to refuse that request. With that said, no, they should not be allowed to refuse a fucking sale of a cake that is ready to go and available simply because they think the person wanting to buy the cake may or may not be gay. </quote> They were offered default cakes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Bitcoin 05/26/20 10:43:27 PM #46:	voldothegr8 posted... They were offered default cakes default WEDDING cakes? <cite>The_Bitcoin posted [p:939759679] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted... </cite> <quote>They were offered default cakes</quote> default WEDDING cakes? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 05/26/20 10:43:43 PM #47:	The_Bitcoin posted... default WEDDING cakes? Yes --- Oda break tracker 2020- 2 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 13-1 \| Oakland Raiders: 7-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:939759692] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>The_Bitcoin posted...</cite> <quote> default WEDDING cakes? </quote> Yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta X 05/26/20 10:45:54 PM #48:	IMO, a business can decline whoever they want to server for whatever reason BUT they shall face judgement for it. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>Veggeta X posted [p:939759783] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>IMO, a business can decline whoever they want to server for whatever reason BUT they shall face judgement for it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/26/20 10:47:07 PM #49:	Veggeta X posted... BUT they shall face judgement for it. What does that mean? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:939759846] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>Veggeta X posted...</cite> <quote> BUT they shall face judgement for it.</quote> What does that mean?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andri_g 05/26/20 10:47:14 PM #50:	Unsugarized_Foo posted... I don't take my car to a Toyota mechanic that won't work on my BMW. UnfairRepresent posted... You just dodged Ha-ha! :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtjU3e0IYgc --- '~' <cite>andri_g posted [p:939759849] in Now some t... [t:78722408]...</cite> <quote>Unsugarized_Foo posted... </cite> <quote>I don't take my car to a Toyota mechanic that won't work on my BMW. </quote> UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>You just dodged</quote>Ha-ha! :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtjU3e0IYgc </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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