Current Events > Coronavirus 19: "An Incalculable Loss"

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So our poor excuse for a governor Kate Brown (Oregon) put my counties application for stage 1 on hold for another week. All counties in Oregon are also on hold for a week as well.

Meanwhile, the county across the river in Washington is moving to stage 2 tomorrow. I'm frustrated and so over this s***.

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kingdrake2 posted...

1 confirmed case in my county. 30+ cases in multnomah, clackamas and marion county.
178 new cases in oregon.

And all counties applications on hold for another week. I think I may go sign that recall Kate Brown petition. This s*** is getting old.

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unemployment benefits bonus getting cut next month. if people aren't able to work normally we're up shit creek without a paddle.
at least for the most unfortunate.
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kingdrake2 posted...

unemployment benefits bonus getting cut next month. if people aren't able to work normally we're up shit creek without a paddle.
at least for the most unfortunate.

Yep and landlords can start to evict people again next month. Unless the politicians extend the ban on it.

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C-19 is a lie. The lockdown has done far more harm than the actual virus.

DDirtyDastard posted...

C-19 is a lie. The lockdown has done far more harm than the actual virus.

Nah

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DundiesAward posted...

Yep and landlords can start to evict people again next month. Unless the politicians extend the ban on it.

That eviction ban only applies to buildings backed by a federal loan or some other caveat like that. Either way it only protected like 30 percent of renters in the states.

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That's an insanely dumb take. Yikes. (Post #356)

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DDirtyDastard posted...

C-19 is a lie. The lockdown has done far more harm than the actual virus.

No shit.


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DDirtyDastard posted...

C-19 is a lie. The lockdown has done far more harm than the actual virus.

It would've lasted 3 weeks tops if people actually stayed inside and away from each other

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DDirtyDastard posted...

C-19 is a lie. The lockdown has done far more harm than the actual virus.

Finally someone who gets it. You and I seem to be the only ones who know that all of the world governments, despite differing economic circumstances and values, set aside the differences to all 100% agree to instill mass panic about a fake virus for abaolutely no reason at all.

We're so smart.

https://twitter.com/wsvn/status/1271456943517900801?s=21

Its getting worse in Florida now. Add them in with Texas and Arizona.

LameFAQs posted...

Florida has reported 1,902 new COVID-19

damn. they're not going to have enough ICU and ventilators for everyone.
it's going to be italy all over again.
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LameFAQs posted...

https://twitter.com/wsvn/status/1271456943517900801?s=21

Its getting worse in Florida now. Add them in with Texas and Arizona.

That's not surprising. Florida went super YOLO on this.

I do have a bone to pick with the news though. When they are reporting rising cases, they are making no distinction between states that are legitimately handling this horribly and states that have a rise because of increase d testing and have a low positive test percentage.

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Interesting to note that one of Floridas biggest hotspots now, Orange County, is where the NBA is sending 22 teams next month to resume the season. A lot of players already voiced their displeasure of playing and being quarantined. Starting to think the season gets scrapped after all.

6_7__8910 posted...

Interesting to note that one of Floridas biggest hotspots now, Orange County, is where the NBA is sending 22 teams next month to resume the season. A lot of players already voiced their displeasure of playing and being quarantined. Starting to think the season gets scrapped after all.

It might not be. They could find another place to play. They have a little time to do that.

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https://covid19.ncdhhs.gov/dashboard

North Carolina has now joined Florida, Texas and Arizona in states that saw the highest daily increase in cases this past week. Am I missing any other states?

LameFAQs posted...

https://covid19.ncdhhs.gov/dashboard

North Carolina has now joined Florida, Texas and Arizona in states that saw the highest daily increase in cases this past week. Am I missing any other states?

I don't think so. And thank you for including the number of hospitalizations in there. That's also important in show in which states are doing badly vs which states just increased testing.

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Oregon has increased testing so we're getting bigger numbers. 174 yesterday was the most since the pandemic begin.

Our Governor has delayed all phase applications by a week.

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Occupy_This posted...

Oregon has increased testing so we're getting bigger numbers. 174 yesterday was the most since the pandemic begin.

Our Governor has delayed all phase applications by a week.

Nevada has too. Our biggest case days have also been the days with the most reported test. Our percentage of positives have gone down all but 1 day in the past month and a half (at 5.4 % or so last I checked)

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https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-federal-nursing-home-data-20200605-vaacddfwrnfbjdpvkfvnrh64lm-story.html

Chicago, NE region, opening up. If you look at the overall numbers, then this appears justified. The positivity rate is going down. Beds are available, ect. I could carp about which neighborhoods get the testing and where these beds are but this is insignificant to the elder care facility situation.

We are opening up in Illinois because all of these people are out of sight and out of mind and out of the economy. Old people are dying so that we can hang out on the beach. This is the unseen, unheard and unfelt SEGREGATION. We (I) have no idea what we are losing. It is crazy that old people are totally isolated. It is crazy that we have no use and no value for their potential. I can say this but to be honest I do not really know what I am saying because of the foregoing.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-pandemic-chicago-illinois-news-20200612-vtsyjc7gqfgvvcj3ogkxvgkwuq-story.html#nt=related-content

3:41 p.m.: Lightfoot to introduce coronavirus tenant protection ordinance
Mayor Lori Lightfoot plans to introduce a package next week designed to give renters whove lost income due to the coronavirus pandemic a measure of protection against evictions, even as some housing advocates hope to strengthen it in the coming days to do more for tenants.
The mayors latest proposal comes a month after progressive aldermen ripped another Lightfoot tenant protection ordinance as inadequate and blocked it, at least temporarily, from getting approved.
The new measure sets rules to follow for people who cant make their rent payments because of the economic upheaval and rash of layoffs due to the coronavirus.
Under the guidelines the Lightfoot administration plans to submit to the City Council Housing Committee on Monday, tenants who inform landlords theyve been financially impacted by the pandemic would get seven days to try to engage in some kind of good faith negotiations to come to a mutually satisfactory agreement for repayment of the unpaid rent.
According to the ordinance, the landlord would have the option to offer to spread out repayment of each months unpaid rent over 60 days, to submit the matter for mediation, to apply the tenants security deposit toward the unpaid amount, to offer to waive all or part of the unpaid rent if the tenant moves out, or to enter into some other agreement with the renter.
In a letter to Housing Committee Chairman Ald. Harry Osterman, 48th, the Chicago Housing Justice League said the mayors plan has some promising language that will benefit renters, but its effectiveness is undermined by a few loopholes and otherwise unenforceable provisions.
In particular, the letter predicted unscrupulous landlords would circumvent the rules by simply terminating month-to-month leases with 30 days notice.

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So on 6/7 it was reported that they hit 400k deaths. It's 5 days later and we're at 427k. Feel like worldwide, it's gotten worse.

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archedsoul posted...

So on 6/7 it was reported that they hit 400k deaths. It's 5 days later and we're at 427k. Feel like worldwide, it's gotten worse.

Its not world wide that's getting worse. Its just Brazil, parts of the US, Sweden, and I think Russia. The rest of The world is in decent shape in how they handled it.

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Takuya Lee posted...

Its not world wide that's getting worse. Its just Brazil, parts of the US, Sweden, and I think Russia. The rest of The world is in decent shape in how they handled it.

Doesn't matter. Between US, Brazil, Mexico, India, and Russia, we're seeing more than ever. The rest of South America is also starting to get hit hard.

This is all before considering the protests in the countries that were starting to do good like many European countries as well as all around the US.

Also have to consider that Brazil and Russia are suppressing the true numbers.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXhj-g6JNmE

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archedsoul posted...

Doesn't matter. Between US, Brazil, Mexico, India, and Russia, we're seeing more than ever. The rest of South America is also starting to get hit hard.

This is all before considering the protests in the countries that were starting to do good like many European countries as well as all around the US.

Also have to consider that Brazil and Russia are suppressing the true numbers.

Yes it does because you make a blanket statement. Also the rest of the world can easily cut off not essential travel to those places.

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Takuya Lee posted...

Yes it does because you make a blanket statement. Also the rest of the world can easily cut off not essential travel to those places.

Daily deaths have increased worldwide.

I didn't make any blanket statements. It went from a set of 5 or 6 countries before and it's now a different set of 5 or 6 countries, with the US involved in both.

Now those other countries from before are involved in mass protesting, probably bringing them back in the picture.

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Still a blanket statement.

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oregon new cases: 142 infected. 2 dead
marion. washington. multnomah with highest cases again.
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kingdrake2 posted...

oregon new cases: 142 infected. 2 dead
marion. washington. multnomah with highest cases again.

Rural area?

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Brazil overtakes UK with world's second-highest Covid-19 death toll and on course to overtake US
https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2020/06/13/brazil-overtakes-uk-as-2nd-country-in-world-with-most-covid-19-deaths-on-course-to-overtake-us/


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DundiesAward posted...

Brazil overtakes UK with world's second-highest Covid-19 death toll and on course to overtake US
https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2020/06/13/brazil-overtakes-uk-as-2nd-country-in-world-with-most-covid-19-deaths-on-course-to-overtake-us/

Which is insane. Are they still not doing anything to at least mitigate it a little?

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Takuya Lee posted...

Which is insane. Are they still not doing anything to at least mitigate it a little?

Not much as far as I know. Their President is against lock downs. Still calls it a flu. They still only test people if they have three symptoms. So if they have 2 or less they go untested spreading it to others. Also yesterday their president told supporters to go inside hospitals to film them for proof that they are really struggling with coronavirus.

https://www.france24.com/en/20200612-bolsonaro-tells-brazilians-to-film-hospitals

So yea they fucked. People think Trump/US handled it badly. Brazil doing a worse job.

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DundiesAward posted...

Not much as far as I know. Their President is against lock downs. Still calls it a flu. They still only test people if they have three symptoms. So if they have 2 or less they go untested spreading it to others. Also yesterday their president told supporters to go inside hospitals to film them for proof that they are really struggling with coronavirus.

https://www.france24.com/en/20200612-bolsonaro-tells-brazilians-to-film-hospitals

So yea they fucked. People think Trump/US handled it badly. Brazil doing a worse job.

True. The only thing keeping it from getting worse in the US is the governors' handing of it, or most of them anyway.

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Takuya Lee posted...

True. The only thing keeping it from getting worse in the US is the governors' handing of it, or most of them anyway.

Yep. US is lucky for all the checks and balances. Probably a different media dynamic helps too. If a US politician said its good so many old people are dying it will help with our pension deficit. They might be forced to apologize. Doesn't seem like Brazil will get better anytime soon with their President still in denial even after 42k deaths.

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Takuya Lee posted...

Rural area?

I'm not sure about Marion county, but Multnomah and Washington counties are pretty urban. Multnomah includes Portland, and Washington includes some smaller suburbs, like Tigard. I think Beaverton and Hillsboro are also in Washington county, but they might be Multnomah.

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DundiesAward posted...

Yep. US is lucky for all the checks and balances. Probably a different media dynamic helps too. If a US politician said its good so many old people are dying it will help with our pension deficit. They might be forced to apologize. Doesn't seem like Brazil will get better anytime soon with their President still in denial even after 42k deaths.

a few US politicians basically did say that

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thronedfire2 posted...

a few US politicians basically did say that

Who? The exact brazil quote was "It's good that deaths are concentrated among the old." "That will improve our economic performance as it will reduce our pension deficit," That be interesting to hear that connection in US.

Either way Brazil is not getting better within the next 2-3 weeks.

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Bars in Florida, Texas, and Arizona close after employees tested positive amid spike in new coronavirus cases
https://www.insider.com/businesses-closed-after-reopening-amid-new-coronavirus-cases-2020-6

North Carolina sets record-high coronavirus hospitalization number for fifth time in past week
https://www.wxii12.com/article/north-carolina-coronavirus-hospitalization-high/32842925

A person got the coronavirus at Utahs police protests, health officials say
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/06/12/person-got-coronavirus/

New York governor says state reported lowest Covid-19 death toll: "Weve done it, we have tamed the beast"
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-06-13-20-intl/h_6556889c751d76603cda1fd2aea54a39

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DundiesAward posted...

Who? The exact brazil quote was "It's good that deaths are concentrated among the old." "That will improve our economic performance as it will reduce our pension deficit," That be interesting to hear that connection in US.

Either way Brazil is not getting better within the next 2-3 weeks.

lt gov of texas said he would be willing to sacrifice himself and the fellow old people in america for the economy

Good for NY. As for the other 3, bars closing is probably the first step to another shutdown. They should had done their homework and prepared.

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CADE FOSTER posted...

lt gov of texas said he would be willing to sacrifice himself and the fellow old people in america for the economy

Oh not really same as saying along the lines its good old people are dying from coronavirus so we don't have to pay them their pensions. But yea still bad.

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Thing is he means he would sacrifice our loved ones while he and the gov hide in there bunkers

CADE FOSTER posted...

Thing is he means he would sacrifice our loved ones while he and the gov hide in there bunkers

What the guy in Brazil said and the US politician are two different things. That all im saying. I thought it was gonna be more close but it wasn't.

I'm guessing you mean he and Trump. Well hopefully US passes another stimulus or they pass some kind of bill soon because shit could get bad after July 31st. If nothing happens.

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oregon new cases: 158 cases. 1 dead
county with highest cases: multnomah (47)
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kingdrake2 posted...

oregon new cases: 158 cases. 1 dead
county with highest cases: multnomah (47)

has Oregon's testing increased too? I Nevada, the highest case days are always on the days with the most tests, but still has a low positive test percentage.

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I don't understand Cuomo bragging about how the rest of the country is spiking while talking about how NY is doing great because of the resilience of us New Yorkers. Dude is even talking about how Italy is starting to spike.

Fuck is this guy's point?

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archedsoul posted...

I don't understand Cuomo bragging about how the rest of the country is spiking while talking about how NY is doing great because of the resilience of us New Yorkers. Dude is even talking about how Italy is starting to spike.

Fuck is this guy's point?

Ego maybe? Or maybe trying to get people to forget his inaction screwed them over in the first place.

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Takuya Lee posted...

Ego maybe? Or maybe trying to get people to forget his inaction screwed them over in the first place.

it's a mix of exhibit A and B
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kingdrake2 posted...

it's a mix of exhibit A and B

Most likely. He did well during the crisis, but he still had a hand in causing it by delaying action.

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