Current Events > Florida forced to reveal true COVID numbers, higher than they pretended

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-reverses-course-covid-19-185309967.html

Womp womp

Fuckin idiots reopening way too early

Lol
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Before the DOH clamped down, FLORIDA TODAY obtained an unredacted version of the spreadsheet from April 15, which recorded the first 601 Florida deaths attributed to COVID-19.

At times, the Medical Examiners data tallied more deaths than the FDOH, recording as much as a 10% difference. But DOH officials said it was not a dispute over numbers. According to a spokesperson, the DOH only wanted to block the data release out of concern for privacy.

60 people.

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Good. Now make Georgia.
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

Good. Now make Georgia.

Lol we ain't even testing.

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shockthemonkey posted...

@s0nicfan ready to eat crow on this one after you believed DeSantis?

He's probably still waiting on you to eat crow for Elizabeth Warren

deupd_u2 posted...

Before the DOH clamped down, FLORIDA TODAY obtained an unredacted version of the spreadsheet from April 15, which recorded the first 601 Florida deaths attributed to COVID-19.

At times, the Medical Examiners data tallied more deaths than the FDOH, recording as much as a 10% difference. But DOH officials said it was not a dispute over numbers. According to a spokesperson, the DOH only wanted to block the data release out of concern for privacy.

60 people.

That proves that the curve in Florida isn't flattening, it's still rising. Raw numbers aren't as important as relativity in this particular situation. A 10% disparity is unacceptable, especially when it was a cover up rather than a mistake. Florida fired the data scientist who tried to share the real numbers and DeSantis put her on blast. This vindicates her

Wow

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shockthemonkey posted...

@s0nicfan ready to eat crow on this one after you believed DeSantis?

Imagine thinking he'd admit to being wrong lmaoooooo

Secretly posted...

That proves that the curve in Florida isn't flattening, it's still rising

No.

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deupd_u posted...

No.

You're sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "no" to my conclusion while ignoring my reasoning behind it. Also this was after your first post in which you scoffed at "only" 60 unreported deaths. Do you have any kind of reasoning of your own, or are you simply arguing in bad faith?

deupd_u2 posted...

Before the DOH clamped down, FLORIDA TODAY obtained an unredacted version of the spreadsheet from April 15, which recorded the first 601 Florida deaths attributed to COVID-19.

At times, the Medical Examiners data tallied more deaths than the FDOH, recording as much as a 10% difference. But DOH officials said it was not a dispute over numbers. According to a spokesperson, the DOH only wanted to block the data release out of concern for privacy.

60 people.

for privacy

Yes because we give a fuck about the privacy of a DEAD person during a pandemic. It was incompetence or a political agenda.


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deupd_u posted...

No.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/florida

It does seem be rising now.

Florida:
May 16: 754 new infections
Yesterday: 1204 new infections

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Florida:
https://i.imgur.com/oCaqdsj.png

Their downward trend for new infections seems to have ended.

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Note the trend at 4/15, the latest date this article covers.

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deupd_u posted...

Note the trend at 4/15, the latest date this article covers.

Not sure what your point is here. On 4/15, the state was in lockdown and the trend of new infections per day was decreasing. The downward trend has ended and seems to be going back up. 1204 new infections in a single day would be a record high for Florida.

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CableZL posted...

Not sure what your point is here. On 4/15, the state was in lockdown and the trend of new infections per day was decreasing. The downward trend has ended and seems to be going back up. 1204 new infections in a single day would be a record high for Florida.

Which would make the entire point of this topic irrelevant.

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Florida is no longer suppressing information

Uh huh

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lol desantis is a huge fuckwit

deupd_u posted...

Which would make the entire point of this topic irrelevant.

How? Florida lying about the numbers they were reporting by 10% would mean the numbers were higher than we thought. The slope of that downward trend in the graph wasn't as steep as what their previously reported data would suggest unless it has already been corrected in that regard.

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CableZL posted...

How? Florida lying about the numbers they were reporting by 10% would mean the numbers were higher than we thought. The slope of that downward trend in the graph wasn't as steep as what their previously reported data would suggest unless it has already been corrected in that regard.

Secretly is trying to say there were more deaths pre-4/15 than expected, therefore it is proof the curve is rising. That is entirely irrelevant to the increase/flat-lining at reopening.

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deupd_u posted...

Secretly is trying to say there were more deaths pre-4/15 than expected, therefore it is proof the curve is rising. That is entirely irrelevant to the increase/flat-lining at reopening.

The point of the topic is that Florida was lying about their number of deaths.

You're correct that them lying about the number of deaths isn't proof that the curve is rising, but the curve does indeed seem to be rising nonetheless.

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I do not know what the big deal here is. Even with the numbers no longer being suppressed, Florida has one of the lowest confirmed infection rates in the country. California, being praised for their response, has an infection rate of 224/100,000 people. Florida has an infection rate of 227/100,000 people. California has nine deaths per 100k people, Florida has 10 deaths per 100k people.

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With there being a larger volume of tests being done, more positives are kinda bound to be found. Are there any graphs that kinda plot those differences?
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emblem boy posted...

With there being a larger volume of tests being done, more positives are kinda bound to be found. Are there any graphs that kinda plot those differences?

Yeah, but reality doesn't seem to be following that logic.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/texas

If you look at the chart that shows new infections per day and tests per day, you can click on "Confirmed Infections" and "Tests" to isolate each trend line.

In Texas, testing ramped up drastically in April, but the number of new infections per day started decreasing around the same time, likely because of the stay at home orders. Then around the time the stay at home orders ended, the trend line of new infections per day went up while testing continued to increase.

So basically, we've seen a both a decrease and an increase in the trend of new infections per day while the trend of tests per day was increasing drastically.

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The gop will do anything to protect Trump even lie for him sheesh we are in a dictatorship

So what exactly is the goal here? Lets say the numbers are accurate what now after this change? What difference will it make?

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emblem boy posted...

With there being a larger volume of tests being done, more positives are kinda bound to be found. Are there any graphs that kinda plot those differences?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

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They didn't lie about the infection rate, they lied about the death rate.

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FreezerDoor posted...

So what exactly is the goal here? Lets say the numbers are accurate what now after this change? What difference will it make?

Nothing because states don't care

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FreezerDoor posted...

So what exactly is the goal here? Lets say the numbers are accurate what now after this change? What difference will it make?

They keep pretending we are over the curve we arent yet

CADE FOSTER posted...

They keep pretending we are over the curve we arent yet

According to the NY Times, the curve for confirmed Florida cases peaked in mid-April and has not substantially increased since the state started reopening in early May.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/florida-coronavirus-cases.html

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Why the fuck would anyone laugh at this? It means people are dying. I am sick of this haha they deserve to die bullshit. Thats your fellow man and woman. If you are laughing at this then take a good long look in the mirror

abaddon41_80 posted...

According to the NY Times, the curve for confirmed Florida cases peaked in mid-April and has not substantially increased since the state started reopening in early May.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/florida-coronavirus-cases.html

According to worldometer, Florida reported their highest new infection count ever yesterday.

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Desantis and Kemp are brothers of the same bigoted struggle

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FreezerDoor posted...

So what exactly is the goal here? Lets say the numbers are accurate what now after this change? What difference will it make?

Lying about the real numbers and saying infections are going down creates a false sense of security and cause more infections.
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CableZL posted...

According to worldometer, Florida reported their highest new infection count ever yesterday.

No? There are several days with higher new infection counts. If the trend from yesterday continues, it might be meaningful but things had been pretty steady up until yesterday.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

Infection totals are going to start increasing for every state, though, because more and more people are getting tested.

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abaddon41_80 posted...

No? There are several days with higher new infection counts.

Apparently you don't know how to read a chart because that's not true at all, according to the data worldometer is showing.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/florida

Previous highest confirmed new infection number for Florida was 1193 on April 4th. Worldometer shows 1204 new cases yesterday in Florida.

How is that not the highest number of new cases, and how are you reading "several days with higher new infection counts" from that?

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Florida: 1204 new cases Yesterday
https://i.imgur.com/M4QO3RB.png

Florida: Confirmed infections graph showing the peak in April 4, reporting 1193 infections
https://i.imgur.com/TWUqz6f.png

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So please point out all of the days Florida reported more than 1204 infections according to the worldometer info.

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damn cablezl murked him

Abbadon in ruins

CableZL posted...

Apparently you don't know how to read a chart because that's not true at all, according to the data worldometer is showing.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/florida

Previous highest confirmed new infection number for Florida was 1193 on April 4th. Worldometer shows 1204 new cases yesterday in Florida.

How is that not the highest number of new cases, and how are you reading "several days with higher new infection counts" from that?

That link is not Worldometer. Worldometer does show 1204 cases yesterday, but it shows 1413 on 4/17, 1279 on 4/6, 1277 on 4/4, 1260 on 4/3, and 1235 on 4/2. The link you gave doesn't even go past 5/16 yet.

Even if yesterday was the highest, which it isn't, that doesn't show a trend yet because it is only one day. What really matters is the rate of infections based on the amount of tests done.

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https://i.imgur.com/CjRUVcr.png

And even when you compare the number of tests per day to the number of new infections per day in Florida, the number of tests was increasing during the shutdown while the number of new infections was decreasing.

So that pretty much shows that more tests does not necessarily equal more new confirmed infections.

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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

Look at the chart for daily new cases.

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holy shit he's already dead cable!