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squarion
05/21/20 8:43:52 PM
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Is Michael Jackson innocent?


Is Michael Jackson innocent?

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Scotty_Rogers
05/21/20 8:44:05 PM
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no.

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squarion
05/21/20 8:50:05 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
no.

The 2 gentlemen in Leaving Neverland doc really seemed genuine. They also didn't care to make money off of it so I'm not even sure if the whole thing was made up. If it is fake then they are very good actors.

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squarion
05/22/20 1:22:02 AM
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Like... is any of this for real... or not?

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trappedunderice
05/22/20 1:24:10 AM
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I Like Toast
05/22/20 1:26:42 AM
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Ignorance is bliss and I'd rather just enjoy thriller. I've heard compelling arguments from both sides and have never felt a desire to look into it personally to form an educated opinion.

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Scotty_Rogers
05/22/20 1:47:37 AM
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I Like Toast posted...
Ignorance is bliss and I'd rather just enjoy thriller. I've heard compelling arguments from both sides and have never felt a desire to look into it personally to form an educated opinion.

Okay.

You're still supporting a dead serial child predator.

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DirkDiggles
05/22/20 1:51:12 AM
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Yeah he is. The man made Thriller.

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Questionmarktarius
05/22/20 2:04:28 AM
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MJ was probably so stupendously messed up that he wasn't even capable of molesting.
"Let's play lightsabers with our pee" could plausibly be the worst he actually did.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/22/20 2:17:34 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
MJ was probably so stupendously messed up that he wasn't even capable of molesting.
"Let's play lightsabers with our pee" could plausibly be the worst he actually did.

This is delusional.

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Questionmarktarius
05/22/20 2:20:33 AM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
This is delusional.
I doubt he actually fucked the Neverland kids, or even Marie Presley.

Joe screwed him up pretty good. It's doubtful that Paris, Prince, and Mike are his actual children.
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Lost_All_Senses
05/22/20 2:21:33 AM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Okay.

You're still supporting a dead serial child predator.

You obviously missed the point there. It's allegedly and he decides to not have opinion on something with no damning evidence one way or the other. As do I.

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pegusus123456
05/22/20 2:22:02 AM
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I honestly don't know and don't think anyone ever will outside of the people who were involved.

I did and still do find it super weird that the entire thing seemed to completely disappeared when he died.

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Questionmarktarius
05/22/20 2:24:09 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I did and still do find it super weird that the entire thing seemed to completely disappeared when he died.
It became "what are you going to do now?" like Jimmy Savile, give or take sledge-hammering the gravestone.
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squarion
05/22/20 2:24:26 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I honestly don't know and don't think anyone ever will outside of the people who were involved.

I did and still do find it super weird that the entire thing seemed to completely disappeared when he died.

Yeah I find it weird that it took several years for someone to finally give us details about it. Then again Im not even sure if the doc is real or not.

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pegusus123456
05/22/20 2:28:18 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
It became "what are you going to do now?" like Jimmy Savile, give or take sledge-mammering the gravestone.
It's not even that. It was that you could not bring up MJ without this coming along with it. The second he died, all you heard about was what a musical icon he was.

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Questionmarktarius
05/22/20 2:31:07 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
The second he died, all you heard about was what a musical icon he was.
We can't even be rid of Gary Glitter.

Good luck with Michael Jackson.
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Scotty_Rogers
05/22/20 2:47:34 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
You obviously missed the point there. It's allegedly and he decides to not have opinion on something with no damning evidence one way or the other. As do I.

"Allegedly" Nah it's pretty fucking obvious he molested those boys. Don't need no smoking gun to know this.

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MT_TRAEH
05/22/20 2:48:34 AM
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he made Thriller

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Questionmarktarius
05/22/20 3:02:39 AM
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Hitler gave us Volkswagen.
Consider that.
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Shablagoo
05/22/20 3:05:32 AM
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He is innocent. My older, gay friend explained it to me in a way that convinced me. I would go through it here but its touchy and I dont want to inadvertently post something moddable.

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MaverickXeo
05/22/20 3:36:45 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
MJ was probably so stupendously messed up that he wasn't even capable of molesting.
"Let's play lightsabers with our pee" could plausibly be the worst he actually did.

I would say this.

Based on his behaviour, I can't see him as being 'fully developed.' He never had a childhood and when he was 'free' he ended up doing weird stuff - some of which sounds like ideas from a child.

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KStateKing17
05/22/20 3:39:50 AM
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Best case scenario is that he just had a harmless but inappropriate relationship with children.

Worst case scenario is that he really did abuse them.

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Scotty_Rogers
05/22/20 3:52:27 AM
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Regressed children don't beg parents to let them have one on one sleepovers with their sons, shower them with gifts, dump them when they reach a certain age in favor of a younger boy, set up alarms whenever someone comes close to their bedroom, look at books with nude little boys, plead the 5th when asked to testify, etc.

Michael Jackson was a grown ass man; he knew what he was doing, and pretended to be childlike to hide his true intentions.

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MaverickXeo
05/22/20 4:10:11 AM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Regressed children don't beg parents to let them have one on one sleepovers with their sons, shower them with gifts, dump them when they reach a certain age in favor of a younger boy, set up alarms whenever someone comes close to their bedroom, look at books with nude little boys, plead the 5th when asked to testify, etc.

Michael Jackson was a grown ass man; he knew what he was doing, and pretended to be childlike to hide his true intentions.

Have you worked with regressed children or those with childhood traumas?

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Scotty_Rogers
05/22/20 4:16:17 AM
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MaverickXeo posted...
Have you worked with regressed children or those with childhood traumas?

We all have childhood trauma. But he was no regressed child.

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Jesus christ

How much info do you people get wrong? MJ isn't a religion; he's not illogical thing you turn your brain off towards. Plenty of people who worked in Neverland say he was up to no good, including security guards and maids.

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MaverickXeo
05/22/20 4:17:52 AM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
We all have childhood trauma. But he was no regressed child.

So that is a no.

I work in child welfare - and have recently taken a 30 hour course on childhood trauma and stress as well as formal education on the subject.


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Scotty_Rogers
05/22/20 4:20:41 AM
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totalnerdken posted...
I don't even understand the point of this comment. What are you getting at? an illogical thing you turn your brain off towards?

So counting the 1st hand witness is... turning off your brain?

What are you talking about?

I'm saying you're so full of shit that you're ignoring logic like a religious fanatic, except instead of being an actual religious fanatic, you're acting like an MJ fanatic. He molested children; open your eyes.

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Scotty_Rogers
05/22/20 4:26:16 AM
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totalnerdken posted...
But the kids he supposedly "molested" have come out and said that he did no such thing.

This never happened. Literally never. Not one kid who accused MJ of anything recanted anything.

totalnerdken posted...
You sound like someone who watched Leaving Neverland once and drank all the coolaid.

Says the dude who believed a false rumor MJ fanatics made up after his death. It's really sad how you let these celebrities blind you to their true nature. Do some soul searching.

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cjsdowg
05/22/20 4:56:17 AM
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squarion posted...
The 2 gentlemen in Leaving Neverland doc really seemed genuine. They also didn't care to make money off of it so I'm not even sure if the whole thing was made up. If it is fake then they are very good actors.

There are holes a mile wide in their story .

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1099772/Leaving-Neverland-Michael-Jackson-abuse-lie-true-Wade-Robson-Safechuck-film

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pegusus123456
05/22/20 4:59:04 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
There are holes a mile wide in their story .
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squarion
05/22/20 11:30:34 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
There are holes a mile wide in their story .

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1099772/Leaving-Neverland-Michael-Jackson-abuse-lie-true-Wade-Robson-Safechuck-film

Thanks, knew it wasn't consistent. Plus a lot of the graphic things they said doesn't suit him.

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ZTT888returning
05/22/20 11:32:51 AM
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Hes 100% innocent and I will go to my grave defending that man. Great man.
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The Trent
05/22/20 11:47:12 AM
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he absolutely did that shit and its gross but the music is still dope

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