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PowerOats
05/16/20 10:34:00 PM
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Have you ever heard someone say this?
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Shotgunnova
05/16/20 10:34:49 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48DS6T2NJMQ

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Vicious_Dios
05/16/20 10:35:23 PM
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PowerOats posted...
Have you ever heard someone say this?

Nope.

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Zaltera
05/16/20 10:35:43 PM
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A long time ago.

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MedeaLysistrata
05/16/20 10:36:08 PM
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Music as a part of a product is pretty different from music that is the product

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ASithLord7
05/16/20 10:36:09 PM
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Yeah but more often I hear "I only listen to vg music" which is soooooo cringey

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Nacen
05/16/20 10:36:35 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath
05/16/20 10:36:36 PM
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Seems like a common sentiment, but I don't think I've heard it said explicitly.

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CleanerIGotThis
05/16/20 10:37:30 PM
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its real music but people who consume it as their only music are... uh, odd

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TheAnthraxBunny
05/16/20 10:38:15 PM
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Yeah, and their argument is always that it doesn't fit some specific definition of music that isn't widely accepted. People do the same thing with electronic music and rap.

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ThePhantomMedic
05/16/20 10:42:53 PM
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its better than film stuff tbh
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dave_is_slick
05/16/20 10:46:45 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Music as a part of a product is pretty different from music that is the product
No it's not. Edited to remove implication that I agreed with this.

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ChainedRedone
05/16/20 10:50:15 PM
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Shotgunnova posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48DS6T2NJMQ

Jesus how did I know somebody would post weeaboo shit to prove their point

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Shotgunnova
05/16/20 10:52:01 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...


Jesus how did I know somebody would post weeaboo s*** to prove their point


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Kisai
05/16/20 10:52:40 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Yeah but more often I hear "I only listen to vg music" which is soooooo cringey

CleanerIGotThis posted...
its real music but people who consume it as their only music are... uh, odd
Nothing wrong with liking soundtracks. _

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MedeaLysistrata
05/16/20 10:56:15 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
No it's not. Edited to remove implication that I agreed with this.
Uh...

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MT_TRAEH
05/16/20 10:57:59 PM
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PowerOats posted...
Have you ever heard someone say this?
nope

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dave_is_slick
05/16/20 11:01:11 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Uh...
Music is music, what's hard to understand?

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dave_is_slick
05/16/20 11:02:13 PM
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Kisai posted...
Nothing wrong with liking soundtracks. _
There's liking soundtracks, I think Nier Automata has the best one I've ever heard, and then there's having it be literally the only thing you listen to.

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Solid Sonic
05/16/20 11:03:49 PM
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CleanerIGotThis posted...
its real music but people who consume it as their only music are... uh, odd

A lot of the music I enjoy I discovered because it was licensed in a video game.

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ASithLord7
05/16/20 11:09:47 PM
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Solid Sonic posted...
A lot of the music I enjoy I discovered because it was licensed in a video game.
That's not what we're referring to

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Solid Sonic
05/16/20 11:12:02 PM
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Well the fact that I then don't actually bother to look up that artist's other works because that one song associated with the video game I heard it in is all I need to enjoy myself is kind of like that. If I actually cared about music I'd probably start exploring their other stuff to see if they produced anything else along those lines.

For instance, I've never listened to anything from Sugarcult besides "Memory" and "Dead Living" because I picked them up in Burnout 3 and Dominator, respectively. Great songs, but I've never gone looking for more by them.

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PowerOats
05/17/20 9:39:30 AM
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Mareen
05/17/20 9:46:05 AM
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Yeah I heard a few people say this before. I disregard them for being blatantly wrong.

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Turbam
05/17/20 9:54:00 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
There's liking soundtracks, I think Nier Automata has the best one I've ever heard, and then there's having it be literally the only thing you listen to.
It doesn't really matter.
People should be allowed to indulge in what they enjoy, especially if it's such a non thing like preference in music.

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Joenage
05/17/20 9:54:56 AM
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When someone says that I just show them this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUjxPj3al5U

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Tsuyoi3
05/17/20 9:59:59 AM
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Turbam posted...
It doesn't really matter.
People should be allowed to indulge in what they enjoy, especially if it's such a non thing like preference in music.
On one hand, I agree with this sentiment.
On the other, those who think it's weird should be able to say so, I'd prefer a little tact when doing so though, but obviously that's just a (reasonable) preference.

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Turbam
05/17/20 10:01:10 AM
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Tsuyoi3 posted...
On one hand, I agree with this sentiment.
On the other, those who think it's weird should be able to say so, I'd prefer a little tact when doing so though, but obviously that's just a (reasonable) preference.
I can agree to that

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MarqueeSeries
05/17/20 10:23:27 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Kisai posted...
Nothing wrong with liking soundtracks. _
There's liking soundtracks, I think Nier Automata has the best one I've ever heard, and then there's having it be literally the only thing you listen to.

Why is that even being discussed? That's not what the topic was asking
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fusespliff
05/17/20 10:33:21 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
No it's not. Edited to remove implication that I agreed with this.

It is though. Music in games, shows and movies is written in service of whatever's happening on screen.
While it's perfectly capable to stand on its own, it is part of a larger whole and written entirely to enhance whatever feeling the director, not the musician, wants you to feel.


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masticatingman
05/17/20 10:40:48 AM
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I got in a huge argument in middle school over this since I was collecting video game music midi files and looking at it as 'real' music. It is real, it's just instrumentals - I think the disconnect for most people is no vocals by and large. Now that I'm an adult I think the best video game music that holds on its own is racing video game music that comes across as ultra melodic stripped down techno. Here's an example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFTFsiG5Zpw

I also like atmospheric video game music. It's almost a kind of contemporary classical, if you wanna get really esoteric about it. Here's an example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1etAFiAPYQ&list=PLz5gUls4mkX8JUFzdNYPyF5Rudaz3rVQk&index=8&t=0s

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MrMallard
05/17/20 10:47:50 AM
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https://youtu.be/qG2HwH1JkAI

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pinky0926
05/17/20 10:56:42 AM
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Its music by any technical measure, but if it's your preferred type of music to listen to then...well bro, that's kinda weird

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Squall28
05/17/20 10:59:49 AM
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Funny thing is people who say this usually listen to some crappy rock music while vg music attracts tons of musicians.

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Ps2Twilight
05/17/20 11:15:23 AM
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Can't say I understand the mindset of ragging on someone for having a preferred genre of music.

pinky0926 posted...
Its music by any technical measure, but if it's your preferred type of music to listen to then...well bro, that's kinda weird

Like this post. I always see it being called weird, but never going into detail as to why.

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NinjaBreakfast
05/17/20 11:17:12 AM
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I mean...its obviously music.

It reeks of having very narrow tastes (but often thinking you have this really high end taste) to just listen to video game music though

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Ocron83
05/17/20 11:17:39 AM
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It's music, but like others have said listening to it exclusively or predominantly is very weird

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wesastro911
05/17/20 12:26:20 PM
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I haven't heard someone specifically say that, but I've known people who don't take it serious. I had a music college professor who was jazz director look down on me playing what he called "Mario sounding music"

I love VGM. There's a certain branch that stems from the 80s and 90s that I would actually consider a music genre on it's own called VGM. Then, you just have other genres used in old games and the the film like music of modern western AAA games. Today Nintendo really keeps pushing that VGM sound and plenty of indie composers.
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Anteaterking
05/17/20 1:29:31 PM
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There are lots of enjoyable themes in video games and there is "real" music behind it, but the musical ideas as designed are given within a framework that is intended to be looped and not have too much development since it's functioning as background.

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HotLap
05/17/20 1:29:59 PM
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https://youtu.be/YR_wIb_n4ZU

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FL81
05/17/20 1:30:55 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJiHDmyhE1A

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Scorsese2002
05/17/20 1:31:09 PM
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KeeperOfShadows
05/17/20 1:43:04 PM
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I only ever hear that on the internet. Nobody I know seems to have any problems with video game music. I don't listen to much aside from vgms because I'm simply not very interested in music in a general sense. If I watched TV/movies or listened to the radio anywhere near as much as I played video games, it'd probably be more balanced.

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dave_is_slick
05/17/20 1:43:13 PM
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Ps2Twilight posted...
Can't say I understand the mindset of ragging on someone for having a preferred genre of music.

Like this post. I always see it being called weird, but never going into detail as to why.
It just is. Like, I love video game music but I also listen to other music.

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dave_is_slick
05/17/20 1:43:41 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
There are lots of enjoyable themes in video games and there is "real" music behind it, but the musical ideas as designed are given within a framework that is intended to be looped and not have too much development since it's functioning as background.
Music is music. Stop adding qualifiers.

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Anteaterking
05/17/20 2:07:57 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Music is music. Stop adding qualifiers.

I didn't say it wasn't music.

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MedeaLysistrata
05/17/20 4:02:48 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Music as a part of a product is pretty different from music that is the product
Does anyone have a response to this that isnt just a negation? lol

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