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CedarPointcp
05/16/20 1:33:59 PM
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do you think so?



have heard others say they don't believe it is a real thing
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JebronLames
05/16/20 1:44:51 PM
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ye

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Peeonidas
05/16/20 1:45:24 PM
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Toxic masculinity is real and it's not up for debate

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P1nkP1ckle
05/16/20 1:46:39 PM
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just in hyena packs or bee colonies

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Master_Bass
05/16/20 1:56:37 PM
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Peeonidas posted...
Toxic masculinity is real and it's not up for debate


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Gamerguymass
05/16/20 2:02:17 PM
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Most of the stuff attributed to "toxic masculinity" is stuff that men have been doing for hundreds of thousands of years which would make it normal human behavior, even if its something that some people might not agree with.

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coh
05/16/20 2:03:23 PM
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Peeonidas posted...
Toxic masculinity is real and it's not up for debate
https://i.imgur.com/6sdMeys.jpg
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DK9292
05/16/20 2:03:40 PM
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What IS toxic masculinity?

I've heard the term thrown around but never actually heard a description of what it is. Like I can assume it's toxic behaviour attributed to men but is there more to it than that?

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Mecha Sonic
05/16/20 2:05:03 PM
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DK9292 posted...
What IS toxic masculinity?

I've heard the term thrown around but never actually heard a description of what it is. Like I can assume it's toxic behaviour attributed to men but is there more to it than that?

pro tip

if you ever hear the phrase "toxic masculinity", replace it with "dick measuring"

means the same thing

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Peeonidas
05/16/20 2:06:48 PM
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DK9292 posted...
What IS toxic masculinity?

I've heard the term thrown around but never actually heard a description of what it is. Like I can assume it's toxic behaviour attributed to men but is there more to it than that?
Masculine gender norms that have a negative effect on everyone/society, so it includes men and women

Common example is boys being taught to suppress their emotions growing up, and that's reinforced by both men and women throughout life

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Mecha Sonic
05/16/20 2:09:17 PM
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lindsay ellis did a really good spiel on toxic masculinity in her love letter to Guardians of the Galaxy 2

https://youtu.be/8VulkN5OLEM?t=593

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Lairen
05/16/20 2:10:25 PM
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Its a buzz word. Its hip. Its cool and makes no one care about it.

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coh
05/16/20 2:10:44 PM
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DK9292 posted...
What IS toxic masculinity?

I've heard the term thrown around but never actually heard a description of what it is. Like I can assume it's toxic behaviour attributed to men but is there more to it than that?
It's anything a man does that SJWs don't like
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Peeonidas
05/16/20 2:11:24 PM
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coh posted...
It's anything a man does that SJWs don't like
Stop inventing stuff to be afraid of you jag

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coh
05/16/20 2:12:02 PM
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Peeonidas posted...
Stop inventing stuff to be afraid of you jag
Could say the same to you
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Hayame Zero
05/16/20 2:12:09 PM
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Yeah. I've seen guys I know try to get the word out on how high suicides in men are, but try to say toxic masculinity is SJW/feminist propaganda.

Most examples of toxic masculinity are literally the biggest reasons for the high suicide rate.

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Lairen
05/16/20 2:12:25 PM
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Mecha Sonic posted...
lindsay ellis did a really good spiel on toxic masculinity in her love letter to Guardians of the Galaxy 2

https://youtu.be/8VulkN5OLEM?t=593

She should have aborted this video.

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Peeonidas
05/16/20 2:12:32 PM
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No you couldn't cuz I don't go on about stupid shit that has no impact on real life

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CommonStar
05/16/20 2:12:58 PM
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coh posted...
It's anything a man does that SJWs don't like
toxic masculinity applies to women too
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Gamerguymass
05/16/20 2:13:28 PM
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Peeonidas posted...
Stop inventing stuff to be afraid of you jag

Imagine thinking toxic masculinity is completely real and that SJWs is just made up.

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masticatingman
05/16/20 2:13:32 PM
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Embracing outdated cultural norms for either gender is "problematic" if you wanna go there.

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Vicious_Dios
05/16/20 2:14:04 PM
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I easily voted 'No'.


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Peeonidas
05/16/20 2:14:07 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
Imagine thinking toxic masculinity is completely real and that SJWs is just made up.
Stop inventing shit to be afraid of

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Mecha Sonic
05/16/20 2:14:50 PM
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Lairen posted...
She should have aborted this video.

u dont liek guardians of the galaxy?

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CommonStar
05/16/20 2:14:56 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
Imagine thinking toxic masculinity is completely real and that SJWs is just made up.
Imagine not understanding what toxic masculinity means and just making up shit to fit a narrative only your pea sized brain could comprehend.
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evil_zombie11
05/16/20 2:16:06 PM
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Its a term used by weak men when they dont have the confidence or status to compete with other men. This board has plenty of weak men, of course the term is popular here.

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Gamerguymass
05/16/20 2:16:17 PM
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Peeonidas posted...
Stop inventing shit to be afraid of

And yet you keep posting about how afraid you are of the big scary men. So maybe you should follow your own advice.

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BettyWhite
05/16/20 2:16:35 PM
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I've always just taken it as dudes who refuse to express their emotions because they think it's weak.

I know it's larger than that, but I would say that's at the heart of it since it ends up contributing to a lot of other toxic behaviours generally found in dudes. Or traits that are commonly found attractive in men by women.

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IfGodCouldDie
05/16/20 2:16:41 PM
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Toxic masculinity is real but the term used for it is terrible because it can come across as an attack on men, when in actuality it is a term that encompasses ideals and behaviours from both sexes that have a negative effect on both sexes. Just like feminism is supposed to mean fighting for equality, period, it can come across as favouring just women.

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The_Creep_2020
05/16/20 2:18:06 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
Most of the stuff attributed to "toxic masculinity" is stuff that men have been doing for hundreds of thousands of years which would make it normal human behavior, even if its something that some people might not agree with.
In various trips to the zoo I have witnessed various old world monkeys, new world monkeys, chimps, gorillas and orangutans consuming faeces. Are you willing to continue a tradition spanning *millions* of years, my dear boy, even if it is something that some people may not agree with?

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Peeonidas
05/16/20 2:18:43 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
And yet you keep posting about how afraid you are of the big scary men. So maybe you should follow your own advice.
I'm not afraid of anything. You're afraid of fat people with blue hair, and you're pretending those people have any pull

Stop inventing shit to be afraid of

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CyricZ
05/16/20 2:18:57 PM
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evil_zombie11 posted...
Its a term used by weak men when they dont have the confidence or status to compete with other men. This board has plenty of weak men, of course the term is popular here.
I see what you did there.

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Peeonidas
05/16/20 2:19:41 PM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
Toxic masculinity is real but the term used for it is terrible because it can come across as an attack on men
No it doesnt. A lot of boys on the Internet are just really really insecure it turns out

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ChrisTaka
05/16/20 2:19:59 PM
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evil_zombie11 posted...
Its a term used by weak men when they dont have the confidence or status to compete with other men. This board has plenty of weak men, of course the term is popular here.

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philsov
05/16/20 2:20:17 PM
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IfGodCouldDie
05/16/20 2:20:35 PM
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Peeonidas posted...
No it doesnt. A lot of boys on the Internet are just really really insecure it turns out
And that insecurity is why it comes across as an attack to them.

Also your post in and of itself kind of represents one of the things toxic masculinity is about. You have men that are insecure and you are attacking them because of that insecurity.

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Lairen
05/16/20 2:24:45 PM
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What about Bio Masculinity?

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nemu
05/16/20 2:25:36 PM
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The issue is the packaging. It's a talking point devised by the same people who push mansplaning and the wage gap. It's a disingenuous packaging of issues that does not seek to actually correct the issues like the concept of "white privilege" as packaged by the same people. The point is to have some clearly defined umbrella of buzzworss under which they can toss all the problems they see in the world without actually doing anything. Do behavioral issues stemming from stereotypes of how people should act and disparities in "privilege" exist? Yes. Are these fair, unbiased talking points actually meant to address the issues? No.
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evil_zombie11
05/16/20 2:25:52 PM
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CyricZ posted...
I see what you did there.



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AirFresh
05/16/20 2:26:38 PM
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I think it exists but jas been heavily politicized to the point where any bravdo is toxic at this point, so no, it does not exist in the modern sense.

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CyricZ
05/16/20 2:30:57 PM
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AirFresh posted...
I think it exists but jas been heavily politicized to the point where any bravdo is toxic at this point, so no, it does not exist in the modern sense.
Huh?

How politicized something is determines whether it exists?

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MedeaLysistrata
05/16/20 2:32:18 PM
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It doesnt even mean all men are toxic, why do guys who dont have to worry about this shit get mad about it?

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Lorthremar
05/16/20 2:34:05 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
It doesnt even mean all men are toxic, why do guys who dont have to worry about this shit get mad about it?
because men are fragile

source: am a man and fragile. toxic masculinity is very much a thing with many people not realizing that a lot of it occurs between men

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IfGodCouldDie
05/16/20 2:35:36 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
It doesnt even mean all men are toxic, why do guys who dont have to worry about this shit get mad about it?
It doesnt necessarily mean any men are toxic. It is meant to describe certain behaviours and ideals about what men should be can have a negative effect on people.

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MedeaLysistrata
05/16/20 2:35:50 PM
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Maybe ascribing it to masculinity is the issue. But I guess it does play on fragility to just basically call singular people problematic... because what the fuck can even be done about it, not like education actually helps

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IfGodCouldDie
05/16/20 2:37:31 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Maybe ascribing it to masculinity is the issue. But I guess it does play on fragility to just basically call singular people problematic... because what the fuck can even be done about it, not like education actually helps
That is kind of cynical. Education is the best way, long term, to combat problems in society.

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inloveanddeath0
05/16/20 2:41:13 PM
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inloveanddeath0
05/16/20 2:41:56 PM
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At the same time there's toxic femaninity

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Gamerguymass
05/16/20 3:51:05 PM
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This is nonsense and you know it. This isn't some learned behavior like leaving the toilet seat up. I'm talking about instinct. That is something you can't get rid of. You can't teach an entire gender to not behave the way they are biologically programmed to behave.

This is why I say now neither conservatives or liberals believe in science. They just don't believe in different parts of it. Conservatives don't believe evolution happened in the first place because of their religion while liberals don't believe evolution produced the results it did because of their political/societal beliefs.

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An_Actual_Chad
05/16/20 3:52:20 PM
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Toxic behavior is not masculine, so toxic masculinity is an oxymoron.

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