Current Events > The internet has completely broken society

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We have troll bots posting propaganda online every day, swaying peoples opinions. People need to stop assuming the accounts you see online are actual people, because theyre quite possibly not.

Over the past 10 years, the internet has become weaponized. Its how people are controlled now. And thats terrifying.

Social media has people coming up with crazy ass conspiracy theories. Everyone argues online and people create these fake inflated online personas. I feel like 90% of the shit posting you see online would never happen by those same people in person.

How do we fix this, you ask? Simple. Remove the anonymity from the internet. If you wanna leave a comment, you gotta submit a selfie every single time. That way we can see the face of these dumbasses who troll and say a bunch of crazy shit online.

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I agree except butthole pictures instead of selfies.

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Its also opened up routes to communication and education never before dreamed of. Heideggers idea of the danger and the saving power of technology is always relevant

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Sotha_Sil posted...

Its also opened up routes to communication and education never before dreamed of. Heideggers idea of the danger and the saving power of technology is always relevant

But do those positives outweigh the massive amounts of negatives from a digital world? I dont think so.

Theres gotta be a way to make the online world more like the real world. In the sense that the actions you choose to take have actual consequences. The internet is the Wild West right now, and if it continues on this route, itll be what destroys humanity.

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the internet was a mistake

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When I hear people say this, it's basically just sounds like "I don't like that people who don't think like me use thing."

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ChuckSDeuces posted...

When I hear people say this, it's basically just sounds like "I don't like that people who don't think like me use thing."

you clearly have no grasp of reality as to how destructive the internet has been for society.

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AloofHermit posted...

the internet was a mistake

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MFBKBass5 posted...

How do we fix this, you ask? Simple. Remove the anonymity from the internet. If you wanna leave a comment, you gotta submit a selfie every single time. That way we can see the face of these dumbasses who troll and say a bunch of crazy shit online.

Just like on Facebook!
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AloofHermit posted...

the internet was a mistake

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AloofHermit posted...

the internet was a mistake

Youre probably right. You think wed ever live to see the day of an anti internet movement? Or somehow the internet just...goes away?

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How am I supposed to contribute to my favorite catboy image board without anonymity

The issue isn't just accountability, it's that we do not educate people about the internet very well. The most I ever learned in K-12 was 'wikipedia is a bad source.' And I'm a Zoomer, I'm 19.

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Forgettable posted...

The internet will get better again when smartphones stop existing.

sooo...never?


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Antifar posted...

Just like on Facebook!

My guess is that deliberate trolling is much less likely when your real identity is in view. My guess is that you don't actually disagree with that.

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MFBKBass5 posted...

You think wed ever live to see the day of an anti internet movement? Or somehow the internet just...goes away?

prolly not, kids these days are growing up with iphones and ipads at younger and younger ages, going on reddit and message boards and youtube, looking up things and learning more and more everyday, becoming more dependent on it, using social media at young ages, etc

anti-internet movements or controlled / censored movements would just be considered anti-free speech

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MFBKBass5 posted...

We have troll bots posting propaganda online every day, swaying peoples opinions. People need to stop assuming the accounts you see online are actual people, because theyre quite possibly not.

Over the past 10 years, the internet has become weaponized. Its how people are controlled now. And thats terrifying.

Social media has people coming up with crazy ass conspiracy theories. Everyone argues online and people create these fake inflated online personas. I feel like 90% of the shit posting you see online would never happen by those same people in person.

How do we fix this, you ask? Simple. Remove the anonymity from the internet. If you wanna leave a comment, you gotta submit a selfie every single time. That way we can see the face of these dumbasses who troll and say a bunch of crazy shit online.

It won't work. You do realise most of the fake news come from Facebook, right? ANd most troll accounts do have pictures and even full freaking bios and a timeline. That's how smart internet bots are nowadays at replicating to such fine detail. There's even a site that randomly generates a completely 100% realistic but non-existent selfie for you to use

Doe posted...

How am I supposed to contribute to my favorite catboy image board without anonymity

The issue isn't just accountability, it's that we do not educate people about the internet very well. The most I ever learned in K-12 was 'wikipedia is a bad source.' And I'm a Zoomer, I'm 19.

Tell me a time when the general populace was ever the majority being educated?

COVxy posted...

My guess is that deliberate trolling is much less likely when your real identity is in view. My guess is that you don't actually disagree with that.

Idk, as he said, Facebook is full of people using nominally real identities and using them to radicalised everybody's older relatives.

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Wutobliteration posted...

It won't work. You do realise most of the fake news come from Facebook, right? ANd most troll accounts do have pictures and even full freaking bios and a timeline. That's how smart internet bots are nowadays at replicating to such fine detail. There's even a site that randomly generates a completely 100% realistic but non-existent selfie for you to use

theres a lot more to the internet than just Facebook. Whats a better solution to hold people accountable then? Maybe a unified login system for the internet.

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NinjaBreakfast posted...

Idk, as he said, Facebook is full of people using nominally real identities and using them to radicalised everybody's older relatives.

But they are still anonymous!

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No

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COVxy posted...

But they are still anonymous!

While there are obviously a lot of faceless, likely sock puppet accounts, there are plenty of real ones that do much the same stuff too in my experience. Then there's the whole middle ground of people adopting other people's identities etc. To me, the level at which any sort of identification system would need to operate to actively curtail the spread of 'fake news' is borderline impossible and would be likely open to abuse in other ways if it did exist.

It's also not really something I feel like people actually mean, more like a more reasonable sounding extension of all the 'say that to my face and see what happens!' stuff you see online

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MFBKBass5 posted...

If you wanna leave a comment, you gotta submit a selfie every single time. That way we can see the face of these dumbasses who troll and say a bunch of crazy shit online.

I haven't looked into this but i'm going to venture that bots are capable of uploading an image for a selfie or that the people making them would program them to do so as soon as this become a requirement.

And fuck this idea in general, I don't want to have to do this to post.

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Then how do we fix the internet?


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MFBKBass5 posted...

Then how do we fix the internet?

MFBKBass5 posted...

theres a lot more to the internet than just Facebook. Whats a better solution to hold people accountable then? Maybe a unified login system for the internet.

search Great Firewall of China.

The only solution, my friends.

It's the only solution.

There's no other way to stop spreading fake news nor stop people from believing them. People are inherently greedy to profit of fake news and the other set of people will always be equally stubborn and stupid to affirm to confirmation bias.

Look at the clusterf*** the USA is in

Wutobliteration posted...

search Great Firewall of China.

The only solution, my friends.

It's the only solution.

There's no other way to stop spreading fake news nor stop people from believing them. People are inherently greedy to profit of fake news and the other set of people will always be equally stubborn and stupid to affirm to confirmation bias.

Look at the clusterf*** the USA is in

uhhhh no

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Social media broke society.

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Bryfang posted...

Christopher Titus called out a Black Trump supporter who tried to claim the media silenced him because he's a Trump supporter by basically telling him no bro, you're just not funny.

The bots that came out the woodwork to attack Titus was incredible.

Most of them got numbers after their username, they got a pic of "their" face, a generic bio with American flag emojis, and then they just endlessly retweet pro-Trump stuff, and only messages they type themselves is when they reply to shit. Absolutely nothing personal is posted, just endless retweets of pro-Trump stuff, and agreeing with pro-Trump tweets other say.

The shit is scary.

yep. Then people report twitter controversy as news when those users could easily all be 1person.

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MFBKBass5 posted...

sooo...never?

Within the decade everything will be AR

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Ive been saying for awhile now that every social media account should have to be registered like the DMV or something, using your real name and picture. The amount of absolute BS that would be cut down from that would be astronomical.

Im wary of this. It seems a lot of people are assuming the ideology they agree with is not going to be the one censored or that they will have access and undesirables (for lack of a better word) wont. This scenario would be wide open for abuse, whether its coming from the government, corporations or some other special interest group.

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If the traditional media doesn't like that people get their news online, they should probably 1) vet things better so they actually look like they're doing a better job than twitter, not the other way around, 2) actually represent the public rather than their own niche ideological interests that have caused them to lose much of their audience, and 3) do some original reporting and stop relying on twitter themselves.

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Ninetails82 posted...

If the traditional media doesn't like that people get their news online, they should probably 1) vet things better so they actually look like they're doing a better job than twitter, not the other way around, 2) actually represent the public rather than their own niche ideological interests that have caused them to lose much of their audience, and 3) do some original reporting and stop relying on twitter themselves.

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you cannot fix the internet because what is broken is not the internet, what is broken is people

most people just have no idea what to do with the massive amount of information and misinformation literally right at their fingertips and that's where all the problems come from. basically the solution is for people to become more information-age literate

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MFBKBass5 posted...

you clearly have no grasp of reality

You are aware the people used propaganda, were gullible and believed stupid shit since the dawn of time right? Not just since Twitter became a thing?

It's not different now, you're just noticing it more becauase you're part of the 2% that spends all their energy on social media shit.

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Ok Xi Jinping

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ChuckSDeuces posted...

You are aware the people used propaganda, were gullible and believed stupid shit since the dawn of time right? Not just since Twitter became a thing?

It's not different now, you're just noticing it more becauase you're part of the 2% that spends all their energy on social media shit.

There have always been dumb or misguided people, but they've never had a platform to organize on before. Headcases were mostly limited to basements, or, having somehow gained financial independence, that guy who lives alone with boarded up windows.

Now they organize, and trick soccer moms into thinking vaccines are the devil.

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kirbymuncher posted...

you cannot fix the internet because what is broken is not the internet, what is broken is people

most people just have no idea what to do with the massive amount of information and misinformation literally right at their fingertips and that's where all the problems come from. basically the solution is for people to become more information-age literate

lol You say theres nothing wrong with the internet

then you describe exactly whats wrong with the internet in your next paragraph. Im getting mixed signals here bro.

you kinda also missed the whole point of the topic. Even if people were more literate with how to process info online, it doesnt help that fake accounts promote agendas by specific individuals/nations that somehow have stakes in a certain viewpoint.


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MFBKBass5 posted...

lol You say theres nothing wrong with the internet

then you describe exactly whats wrong with the internet in your next paragraph. Im getting mixed signals here bro

you cannot fix cars because what is broken is not cars, it is people

most people just have no idea what to do with a giant highspeed death machine literally right at their fingertips and that's where all the problems come from. basically the solution is that maybe we should teach people how to drive

MFBKBass5 posted...

Even if people were more literate with how to process info online, it doesnt help that fake accounts promote agendas by specific individuals/nations that somehow have stakes in a certain viewpoint.

well, if a group/indivvidual is promoting a viewpoint with stuff that no one reads or takes credibly... I don't know how much of a problem that is really? and they'd probably stop doing it eventually if it wasn't getting any results because people know better than that

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ChuckSDeuces posted...

You are aware the people used propaganda, were gullible and believed stupid shit since the dawn of time right? Not just since Twitter became a thing?

It's not different now, you're just noticing it more becauase you're part of the 2% that spends all their energy on social media shit.

the amount of misinformation back then isnt even remote comparable to the scope and entirety of the internet. This isnt just about social media. Its about the entire concept of the internet, and lack of accountability for the users.

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kirbymuncher posted...

you cannot fix cars because what is broken is not cars, it is people

most people just have no idea what to do with a giant highspeed death machine literally right at their fingertips and that's where all the problems come from. basically the solution is that maybe we should teach people how to drive

Are you parodying... yourself?

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kirbymuncher posted...

you cannot fix cars because what is broken is not cars, it is people

most people just have no idea what to do with a giant highspeed death machine literally right at their fingertips and that's where all the problems come from. basically the solution is that maybe we should teach people how to drive

you just keep giving stupid analogies while missing the point completely so Im just gonna stop reading your posts because honestly theyre a waste of time.

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Evening_Dragon posted...

Are you parodying... yourself?

I'm just saying, if people don't know how to properly use a tool, that does not necessarily imply a fault of the tool itself

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kirbymuncher posted...

I'm just saying, if people don't know how to properly use a tool, that does not necessarily imply a fault of the tool itself

i dont see anything in this post. Hmm

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kirbymuncher posted...

I'm just saying, if people don't know how to properly use a tool, that does not necessarily imply a fault of the tool itself

It's not really a matter of fault, the solution just has to solve the problem. Either make the tool easier to use, or have better education on how to use it.

We do teach people how to drive, we have a test for it, and yet there are enough people who are so incredibly stupid with cars that over a million people die from car crashes each year.

So we have the education. We have standards for driving, and people who live up to those standards temporarily. It isn't a lack of technical ability, it's an attitude problem. So what then? Driving tests don't filter as well as they should, so the market demanded cars that know when to break, or can drive themselves.

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