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LightningAce11
04/27/20 9:14:00 PM
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Those same people wouldn't bat an eye if she kissed a boy.

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Alucard188
04/27/20 9:14:38 PM
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Because muh libural agendas

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Pinotage
04/27/20 9:15:01 PM
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Who is Ellie?

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ScazarMeltex
04/27/20 9:15:07 PM
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It was pretty well established in the first game's dlc that she was lesbian so i don't really get all the screeching.

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Choco
04/27/20 9:15:36 PM
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Choco
04/27/20 9:16:15 PM
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Pinotage posted...
Who is Ellie?
girl from the last of us

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Pulysses
04/27/20 9:16:20 PM
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A lot of gamers hate gay people and women for some reason. I don't get it. All these games and animes that taught them about life should have conveyed that that behavior is putrid

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Prestoff
04/27/20 9:20:16 PM
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I remember when they dropped that trailer at E3, then you got all the homphobes flooding the PS4 boards with their "hot takes".

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pegusus123456
04/27/20 9:21:41 PM
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My favorite were the people that claimed the dude in the first game wasn't gay. He was just really good friends with the guy he kept calling his partner. And that gay porn Ellie found at his hideout? Pft, he just collected whatever random crap he could find.

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LightningAce11
04/27/20 9:22:43 PM
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I'm just curious as to why those people just don't admit to being homophobic and not try to deflect with "pandering", "not done right", "shoved in your face", "this other thing did it better", etc.

Seems like they have zero conviction in their beliefs if they're so scared of admitting it.

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creativerealms
04/27/20 9:44:57 PM
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It's an excuse to complain. They are more pisses off that she's not attractive.

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FortuneCookie
04/27/20 9:47:59 PM
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'Cause they're mad a 14 year old girl can't be their waifu anymore.

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Tyranthraxus
04/27/20 9:48:47 PM
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Because politics in muh games

There's only 2 genders, Male and political
There's only 2 races, White and political
There's only 2 sexualities, Heterosexual and political


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Lost_All_Senses
04/27/20 9:48:54 PM
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That wasn't the bad part. The bad part for me was that I don't want to be bored out my mind by watching teenagers at a dance in my video games. You could pick a more boring setting. Do they think 15 year old girls are their target audience >_>. I'm sure it's just a small part...but like, why lead with that? I didn't even get through the whole trailer cause how boring it was. Maybe they needed the kissing to actually make people talk about it at all.

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thronedfire2
04/27/20 9:51:16 PM
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because if she's gay they won't get to bang her in the future


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Hayame Zero
04/27/20 9:52:10 PM
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Because "fOrCeD DiVeRsItY"

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YellowSUV
04/27/20 9:55:46 PM
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Identity politics. Some people claim having a lesbian in a game means it is somehow magically part of a sinister agenda.

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BLAKUboy
04/27/20 9:57:51 PM
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All I know is her girlfriend's nose has its own zip code.

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Cobra1010
04/27/20 10:04:39 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
That wasn't the bad part. The bad part for me was that I don't want to be bored out my mind by watching teenagers at a dance in my video games. You could pick a more boring setting. Do they think 15 year old girls are their target audience >_>. I'm sure it's just a small part...but like, why lead with that? I didn't even get through the whole trailer cause how boring it was. Maybe they needed the kissing to actually make people talk about it at all.

This. Im pretty sure people would complain if they showed 2 ugly straight characters kissing at an E3 reveal when the game is about plant zombies, apocalyptic world.

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dj1200
04/27/20 10:05:55 PM
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Muh merica

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creativerealms
04/27/20 10:07:54 PM
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Cobra1010 posted...
This. Im pretty sure people would complain if they showed 2 ugly straight characters kissing at an E3 reveal when the game is about plant zombies, apocalyptic world.
Nope no one would have complained.

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Smashingpmkns
04/27/20 10:08:37 PM
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Because now us straight guys don't have a chance!
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Cobra1010
04/27/20 10:09:42 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Nope no one would have complained.

Yes some people would. If its an uncharted sequel then maybe. But not for plant zombie game.

Oh and by the way. Shut the fuck up.

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Wetterdew
04/27/20 10:09:44 PM
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Do you guys remember when people found out that Tracer is gay? Here's how the internet reacted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E83CtWFkQW0

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
04/27/20 10:10:41 PM
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Wasn't she like 12
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pegusus123456
04/27/20 10:10:44 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
That wasn't the bad part. The bad part for me was that I don't want to be bored out my mind by watching teenagers at a dance in my video games. You could pick a more boring setting. Do they think 15 year old girls are their target audience >_>. I'm sure it's just a small part...but like, why lead with that? I didn't even get through the whole trailer cause how boring it was. Maybe they needed the kissing to actually make people talk about it at all.
I think the same presentation had a long gameplay trailer though

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Choco
04/27/20 10:13:15 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Because politics in muh games

There's only 2 genders, Male and political
There's only 2 races, White and political
There's only 2 sexualities, Heterosexual and political
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Blightzkrieg
04/27/20 10:15:42 PM
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Why does nerd media contain like zero gay men but approximately half of all lesbians on Earth

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DarthAragorn
04/27/20 10:16:09 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
That wasn't the bad part. The bad part for me was that I don't want to be bored out my mind by watching teenagers at a dance in my video games. You could pick a more boring setting. Do they think 15 year old girls are their target audience >_>. I'm sure it's just a small part...but like, why lead with that? I didn't even get through the whole trailer cause how boring it was. Maybe they needed the kissing to actually make people talk about it at all.
I think the same presentation had a long gameplay trailer though

I remember most of that presentation being the boring tent scene.
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Tyranthraxus
04/27/20 10:17:05 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
Why does nerd media contain like zero gay men but approximately half of all lesbians on Earth

Lesbians don't offend fragile masculinity.

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hockeybub89
04/27/20 10:17:24 PM
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Vyrulisse
04/27/20 10:17:41 PM
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I dunno. Why do people make topics asking a question they already have an answer to in their heads?

"tHeY hAtE gAy PeOpLe" Yeah I'm pretty certain some of it was that but there are other layers to it for others. It's an argument/debate that's already been fought though. Points have been raised on both sides over and over and TC isn't interested in a discussion, it's a thinly veiled "Homophobic gamers" thread.

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Lost_All_Senses
04/27/20 10:17:42 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I think the same presentation had a long gameplay trailer though

I wasn't all in on the game back then so I didn't care. I cut that bullshit off lol.

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Tsukasa1891
04/27/20 10:23:40 PM
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Because I don't care about fictional characters love lives.

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BLAKUboy
04/27/20 10:33:31 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
Why does nerd media contain like zero gay men but approximately half of all lesbians on Earth
Deadpool is like the epitome of "nerd media" and he is unabashedly pansexual. Comics, in general, have a shitton of queer men. There's also Soldier 76, Shiro from the new Voltron, Bow's dads from the new She-Ra, Alucard from Netflix's Castlevania, and pretty much everyone in Yuri!! On Ice to name a few.

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ChuckSDeuces
04/27/20 10:35:47 PM
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IIRC it was because it wasn't established in TLoU at all so it felt tacked on after the fact.

But it's been like 7 years since I played TLoU so maybe they did mention it in the game and I just forgot. But I thought that was why people were generally upset.

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marc55
04/27/20 10:37:16 PM
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why are people reacting on this after this long ?
weve known shes gay for over 5 years !

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Butterfiles
04/27/20 10:37:29 PM
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ChuckSDeuces posted...
IIRC it was because it wasn't established in TLoU at all so it felt tacked on after the fact.

But it's been like 7 years since I played TLoU so maybe they did mention it in the game and I just forgot. But I thought that was why people were generally upset.
It was literally in the DLC

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Choco
04/27/20 10:38:33 PM
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ChuckSDeuces posted...
IIRC it was because it wasn't established in TLoU at all so it felt tacked on after the fact.

But it's been like 7 years since I played TLoU so maybe they did mention it in the game and I just forgot. But I thought that was why people were generally upset.
and yet it'd be fine if she was straight without that ever getting established

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sevihaimerej
04/27/20 10:40:26 PM
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I just thought that within the context of the trailer it made her look like a really shitty friend.

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hockeybub89
04/27/20 10:44:36 PM
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Remember when people complained about Kratos' sexuality being shoved in our face by the straight agenda?

But I guess that was cool because he had a minigame where you banged a bunch of hot women

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Elmer_Glue
04/27/20 10:47:07 PM
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They targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.
We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed in frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.
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ChuckSDeuces
04/27/20 10:52:51 PM
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Butterfiles posted...
It was literally in the DLC

Hence me saying it wasn't established in TLoU. That is why people got mad when it was shown in the DLC.

Choco posted...
and yet it'd be fine if she was straight without that ever getting established

*shrug*

That's how some peoples brains work, don't know what to tell you.

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LightningAce11
04/27/20 11:30:52 PM
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But what legitimate arguments have people put against it that aren't just dogwhistles? The PS4 board is just crazy over it.

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IronWolf87
04/27/20 11:35:38 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
All I know is her girlfriend's nose has its own zip code.

Pretty sure it was confirmed in the leaks that she's related to HHH
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YellowSUV
04/28/20 3:52:44 AM
#48:


Elmer_Glue posted...
They targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.
We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed in frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPPaChTRbCA&t=


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SH_expert44
04/28/20 3:58:28 AM
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People wanted her to bang joel and give birth to nathan drake in TLOU2.

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Spellcaster
04/28/20 3:59:20 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
Because muh libural agendas


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