Current Events > NY Democratic Party Cancels their primary for Biden

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P4wn4g3
04/27/20 4:37:29 PM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JonCampbellGAN/status/1254804558649401345

Cool stuff here. If they keep this up Biden might have a chance.

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COVxy
04/27/20 4:40:05 PM
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Anything else would have been...moronic.

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CommonStar
04/27/20 5:35:06 PM
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Except that the DNC nor Biden's campaign asked them to do this. This was all Cuomo to prevent challengers in downballot by dampening turnout and it's disgusting. Bernie needs to unsuspend to keep his name on the ballot, not because there's any chance of winning but to keep some leverage at the convention.
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Butterfiles
04/27/20 5:36:11 PM
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COVxy posted...
Anything else would have been...moronic.
Why do you not care about literally any non presidential race?

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Maze_
04/27/20 5:36:25 PM
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Maybe I'm missing something but hasn't Biden already all but won the primary ?

And with Corona virus, having voting right now would mean deaths

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Jagr_68
04/27/20 5:36:45 PM
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Bold Strategy Dems, let's see if it pays off for them...

*chuckles*

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soulunison2
04/27/20 5:36:51 PM
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Lmao its because its NYC Bernie might actually win as a write in
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Iodine
04/27/20 5:36:57 PM
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If only Bernie Sanders had not suspended his campaign.

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Bananana
04/27/20 5:37:04 PM
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Anyone having an in-person primary election at this point in time is a terrible idea.

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COVxy
04/27/20 5:39:37 PM
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Butterfiles posted...
Why do you not care about literally any non presidential race?

All other candidates dropped out, and there's a pandemic ravaging the city...

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Antifar
04/27/20 5:40:38 PM
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Bananana posted...
Anyone having an in-person primary election at this point in time is a terrible idea.

But that's why NY has expanded absentee balloting.
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CommonStar
04/27/20 5:41:20 PM
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COVxy posted...
All other candidates dropped out, and there's a pandemic ravaging the city...
"non presidential"
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COVxy
04/27/20 5:49:12 PM
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Let's not pretend like the outrage here is not any more performative than voting in the NY primary would be.

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COVxy
04/27/20 5:52:58 PM
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Lmao. That's melodramatic.

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Smashingpmkns
04/27/20 5:55:00 PM
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People have a right to vote*

*unless we decide you don't
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ChuckSDeuces
04/27/20 5:57:38 PM
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Isnt this the type of shit Dems said Trump would pull?

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COVxy
04/27/20 6:06:06 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Now this is performative. You came into this topic unaware of why Sanders still wants the primary and now youre looking for ways to dismiss legitimate reasons for holding the primary via mail in ballot.

Explain to me the primary out come of holding this race. What realistically changes?

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Proto_Spark
04/27/20 6:12:35 PM
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I thought Bernie suspended his campaign, because it was unsafe to continue (ie., like Biden), this means he's just not running anymore?
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COVxy
04/27/20 6:12:44 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
More delegates = more influence on the official Democratic Party platform and the DNC rules

I understand that rationale. That wasn't my question!

Do you expect Bernie to win enough delegates in NY to actually make a difference in that end process?

Let's see the math. How many delegates does might he win based on projections? How does that many delegate difference effect the end result?

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COVxy
04/27/20 6:16:50 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
If you understood that then you wouldnt be acting like the primary is inconsequential.

What is gained by disenfranchising New York voters? Argue in favor of something for once.

I notice you didn't answer my questions.

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COVxy
04/27/20 6:35:13 PM
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I'm in favor for focusing on things that matter, like dealing with the most heavily hit state in this pandemic. Figuring out the logistics of holding an election that very likely doesn't change any outcome seems silly.

If anyone could provide a clear argument for how it would realistically change anything, I'm all ears and will be ready to say I was wrong.

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Doom_Art
04/27/20 6:36:56 PM
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running an election in the middle of a pandemic for a race that only has one real candidate that every other candidate has already dropped out and endorsed seems like a waste of time and money

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Smashingpmkns
04/27/20 6:37:41 PM
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Voter suppression is dope
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Doom_Art
04/27/20 6:40:29 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Voter suppression is dope
if it were like an actual race

like in wisconsin

i could see the logic behind it

but i don't get it

new york running a primary rn will not make bernie the nominee

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NinjaWarrior455
04/27/20 6:43:55 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
but i don't get it

That was all you had to say. Supporting voter disenfranchisement isn't it.

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Smashingpmkns
04/27/20 6:44:27 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Voter suppression is dope
if it were like an actual race

like in wisconsin

i could see the logic behind it

but i don't get it

new york running a primary rn will not make bernie the nominee


Imagine being in favor of voter suppression in any situation.
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Iodine
04/27/20 6:44:31 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
I thought Bernie suspended his campaign, because it was unsafe to continue (ie., like Biden), this means he's just not running anymore?
This is why Bernie suspending his campaign never made any sense if he still wanted to acquire delegates.

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Doom_Art
04/27/20 6:45:54 PM
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yknow im sure folks could explain it without being holier-than-thou dicks about it but im an evil neolib unperson so fuck me i guess

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AirFresh
04/27/20 6:47:50 PM
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:o

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NinjaWarrior455
04/27/20 6:49:56 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
yknow im sure folks could explain it without being holier-than-thou dicks about it but im an evil neolib unperson so fuck me i guess

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malenz
04/27/20 6:51:20 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Sanders explicitly explained that delegates get him more power to set the Democratic platform and has advocated for voting by mail. Since some people here seem confused.
ah thank you

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Doom_Art
04/27/20 6:53:45 PM
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cool. fair enough then.

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Smashingpmkns
04/27/20 6:53:55 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
yknow im sure folks could explain it without being holier-than-thou dicks about it but im an evil neolib unperson so fuck me i guess


It's been explained in this thread and you're ignoring it cuz voter suppression is dope
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Broseph_Stalin
04/27/20 6:56:52 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Voter suppression is dope

a post for every occasion


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Smashingpmkns
04/27/20 6:57:59 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Voter suppression is dope

a post for every occasion



Ah yes wanting to delay a primary due to a pandemic is voter suppression
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Broseph_Stalin
04/27/20 7:00:11 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Ah yes wanting to delay a primary due to a pandemic is voter suppression

Democrats didn't control when the election would take place and tried to delay it but I understand you need to lie since your hypocrisy has been exposed for the millionth time
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Doom_Art
04/27/20 7:01:45 PM
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would you both just stop

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COVxy
04/27/20 7:01:47 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
This is like when you said there will be no difference between a Sanders and Biden presidency because of Congress and I listed all the things Trump has done without going through Congress and you said that doesnt count.

The reason is very clear: the type of systems that people enacted take longer than the time period of a single presidency. There's a reason Trump tried, and failed, to enact healthcare reform through legislation.

shockthemonkey posted...
And the Democratic Party platform is what they will try to enact under a Biden presidency so it is very important.

But I don't understand the function that links delegates to power in this. Like, how many delegates makes a difference? I want to know, realisically, what you could expect the actual effect of a primary in NY to yield for progressive policy. It seems you just don't know that and are simply hoping that it would help.

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Smashingpmkns
04/27/20 7:03:02 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Ah yes wanting to delay a primary due to a pandemic is voter suppression

Democrats didn't control when the election would take place and tried to delay it but I understand you need to lie since your hypocrisy has been exposed for the millionth time


Joe Biden did not in anyway push for a delay.
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Broseph_Stalin
04/27/20 7:05:05 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Joe Biden did not in anyway push for a delay.

It was decided by the Wisconsin supreme court you clown, he had zero control over it. Both Biden and Bernie's campaigns encouraged people to vote after a delay was made impossible.
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Smashingpmkns
04/27/20 7:06:50 PM
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He didn't even call for a delay when others were! He was encouraging people to vote prior to the WI supreme court decision lmao you cant rewrite what literally just happened.
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