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hockeybub89 04/27/20 9:12:53 AM #51:	Veggeta_MAX posted... Right, so you've never used predictability or unoriginality to use as a flaw. Not never, but it's not inherently an issue. If you know character and plot archetypes, you can "predict" the basics of anything. A truly unpredictable story would just be random chaos. And like I said, I think originality is basically nonexistent. Humans have told stories for so long, that all you really have are variations on a theme. For me, it just comes down to the execution and quality of the work. You don't need to shock me. Just don't break your own rules, and make me give a shit about your world. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:938171394] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Veggeta_MAX posted... </cite> <quote>Right, so you've never used predictability or unoriginality to use as a flaw.</quote>Not never, but it's not inherently an issue. If you know character and plot archetypes, you can "predict" the basics of anything. A truly unpredictable story would just be random chaos. And like I said, I think originality is basically nonexistent. Humans have told stories for so long, that all you really have are variations on a theme. For me, it just comes down to the execution and quality of the work. You don't need to shock me. Just don't break your own rules, and make me give a shit about your world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 04/27/20 9:14:58 AM #52:	Alucard188 posted... Not allowed to talk about them here. It's pre-release story material that's been leaked. Even with the tags? Interesting, I saw many people talking about the FF7 leaks when they happened. I also learned these plot leaks on CE for that game lol. --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:938171467] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Alucard188 posted... </cite> <quote>Not allowed to talk about them here. It's pre-release story material that's been leaked.</quote>Even with the tags? Interesting, I saw many people talking about the FF7 leaks when they happened. I also learned these plot leaks on CE for that game lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 04/27/20 9:15:04 AM #53:	Veggeta_MAX posted... I guess you still didn't read post 21. I read it, and you've basically admitted that there was gameplay, even if you didn't like it. Unless you have some definition of "a movie game" that you're not sharing with us? --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:938171472] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Veggeta_MAX posted... </cite> <quote>I guess you still didn't read post 21.</quote>I read it, and you've basically admitted that there was gameplay, even if you didn't like it. Unless you have some definition of "a movie game" that you're not sharing with us? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 04/27/20 9:15:35 AM #54:	Topic successfully derailed --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:938171485] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Topic successfully derailed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/27/20 9:16:42 AM #55:	Veggeta_MAX posted... As if this is the redeeming quality of the game. Now that's reaching. The gameplay was generic as fuck. Didn't you just praise The Walking Dead? That is a point and click game that's objectively worse technically. Movie games are fine if they have bad cinematography? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:938171523] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Veggeta_MAX posted... </cite> <quote>As if this is the redeeming quality of the game. Now that's reaching. The gameplay was generic as fuck.</quote>Didn't you just praise The Walking Dead? That is a point and click game that's objectively worse technically. Movie games are fine if they have bad cinematography? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fan357 04/27/20 9:23:01 AM #56:	Even if the spoilers are true we are seeing them out of context. Naughty Dog is a great dev. --- Never forget where you came from. <cite>fan357 posted [p:938171748] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Even if the spoilers are true we are seeing them out of context. Naughty Dog is a great dev. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 04/27/20 9:25:12 AM #57:	CyricZ posted... Unless you have some definition of "a movie game" that you're not sharing with us? So you've never seen a game called a movie game as a critique before huh? I guess you're newer to video games than I thought. It was one of the biggest critique for RE6 and the Metal Gear series. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:938171841] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>Unless you have some definition of "a movie game" that you're not sharing with us?</quote>So you've never seen a game called a movie game as a critique before huh? I guess you're newer to video games than I thought. It was one of the biggest critique for RE6 and the Metal Gear series. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 04/27/20 9:26:16 AM #58:	Cyric, the age old "I'm gonna use every technicality and literal phrasing for my argument" won't work here for you. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:938171871] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Cyric, the age old "I'm gonna use every technicality and literal phrasing for my argument" won't work here for you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChuckSDeuces 04/27/20 9:33:30 AM #59:	Are there even zombies in this game? --- Charles Stanley Deuces Esq. <cite>ChuckSDeuces posted [p:938172144] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Are there even zombies in this game? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 04/27/20 9:40:16 AM #60:	video game fans: "why don't people take games seriously as a medium?" also video game fans: "lol they tried to make their game have cinematography, what a bunch of nerds" --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:938172410] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>video game fans: "why don't people take games seriously as a medium?" also video game fans: "lol they tried to make their game have cinematography, what a bunch of nerds" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChuckSDeuces 04/27/20 9:43:34 AM #61:	Doom_Art posted... video game fans: "why don't people take games seriously as a medium?" also video game fans: "lol they tried to make their game have cinematography, what a bunch of nerds" It's almost like cinematography is better representation for movies as art and not as much for games. Maybe game dev's should get over it and make a good game instead of trying to make a movie. Imagine if I just wrote the script to citizen kane on a canvas and said it was a great painting. --- Charles Stanley Deuces Esq. <cite>ChuckSDeuces posted [p:938172557] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>video game fans: "why don't people take games seriously as a medium?" also video game fans: "lol they tried to make their game have cinematography, what a bunch of nerds"</quote> It's almost like cinematography is better representation for movies as art and not as much for games. Maybe game dev's should get over it and make a good game instead of trying to make a movie. Imagine if I just wrote the script to citizen kane on a canvas and said it was a great painting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/27/20 9:46:00 AM #62:	ChuckSDeuces posted... It's almost like cinematography is better representation for movies as art and not as much for games. Maybe game dev's should get over it and make a good game instead of trying to make a movie. Imagine if I just wrote the script to citizen kane on a canvas and said it was a great painting. Plenty of good games do both. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:938172661] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>ChuckSDeuces posted... </cite> <quote>It's almost like cinematography is better representation for movies as art and not as much for games. Maybe game dev's should get over it and make a good game instead of trying to make a movie. Imagine if I just wrote the script to citizen kane on a canvas and said it was a great painting.</quote>Plenty of good games do both. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 04/27/20 9:47:57 AM #63:	why the heck would cinematography be a better representation of movies than games when games are a visual medium it's not a requirement tho. plenty of (primarily older) games have shit cinematography and still are insanely fun. but why on earth would nice cinematography be a strike against a game that's based primarily around storytelling --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:938172744] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>why the heck would cinematography be a better representation of movies than games when games are a visual medium it's not a requirement tho. plenty of (primarily older) games have shit cinematography and still are insanely fun. but why on earth would nice cinematography be a strike against a game that's based primarily around storytelling </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 04/27/20 9:49:16 AM #64:	ChuckSDeuces posted... Are there even zombies in this game? From playing the game myself and finishing it and watching tons of walkthroughs, it definitely feels and looks like ~~There are more human enemies than zombies but yes there are zombies in this game.~~ Doom_Art posted... video game fans: "why don't people take games seriously as a medium?" also video game fans: "lol they tried to make their game have cinematography, what a bunch of nerds" I've actually never seen this many people fight this hard for a movie game before. Where were you guys when MGS was being shit on hard for being movie games? --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:938172795] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>ChuckSDeuces posted... </cite> <quote>Are there even zombies in this game?</quote>From playing the game myself and finishing it and watching tons of walkthroughs, it definitely feels and looks like There are more human enemies than zombies but yes there are zombies in this game. Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>video game fans: "why don't people take games seriously as a medium?" also video game fans: "lol they tried to make their game have cinematography, what a bunch of nerds"</quote>I've actually never seen this many people fight this hard for a movie game before. Where were you guys when MGS was being shit on hard for being movie games? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChuckSDeuces 04/27/20 9:49:35 AM #65:	hockeybub89 posted... Plenty of good games do both. Sure But games that rely too much on the cinematography and plot have good cinematography and plot but might not be good games if the gameplay is bad Hopefully TLoU 2 fixed the gameplay part cause the plot sounds like shit --- Charles Stanley Deuces Esq. <cite>ChuckSDeuces posted [p:938172810] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Plenty of good games do both.</quote> Sure But games that rely too much on the cinematography and plot have good cinematography and plot but might not be good games if the gameplay is bad Hopefully TLoU 2 fixed the gameplay part cause the plot sounds like shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 04/27/20 9:51:13 AM #66:	Veggeta_MAX posted... I've actually never seen this many people fight this hard for a movie game before. Where were you guys when MGS was being shit on hard for being movie games? i've never played any of the mgs games lol probably a stupid criticism of those games too though ChuckSDeuces posted... But games that rely too much on the cinematography and plot have good cinematography and plot but might not be good games if the gameplay is bad well that, like any other form of art, is entirely subjective. depends on your tastes and what you're looking for in a game --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:938172873] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Veggeta_MAX posted... </cite> <quote>I've actually never seen this many people fight this hard for a movie game before. Where were you guys when MGS was being shit on hard for being movie games?</quote>i've never played any of the mgs games lol probably a stupid criticism of those games too though ChuckSDeuces posted... </cite> <quote>But games that rely too much on the cinematography and plot have good cinematography and plot but might not be good games if the gameplay is bad</quote>well that, like any other form of art, is entirely subjective. depends on your tastes and what you're looking for in a game </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChuckSDeuces 04/27/20 9:52:14 AM #67:	Doom_Art posted... why the heck would cinematography be a better representation of movies than games when games are a visual medium Because games are more than just the visual. They are interactive medium as well. It's kind of like a movie that is shot well but has horrible acting and writing isnt a good movie. It's just a movie with good cinematography. Edit: it's not a strike, it just doesn't carry a game to greatness --- Charles Stanley Deuces Esq. <cite>ChuckSDeuces posted [p:938172917] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>why the heck would cinematography be a better representation of movies than games when games are a visual medium</quote> Because games are more than just the visual. They are interactive medium as well. It's kind of like a movie that is shot well but has horrible acting and writing isnt a good movie. It's just a movie with good cinematography. Edit: it's not a strike, it just doesn't carry a game to greatness </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 04/27/20 9:53:47 AM #68:	Veggeta_MAX posted... Yall need to stop acting like the first game's plot was amazing. It's not. It's unoriginal, predictable, the theme of the game is stupid old zombie trope of "Humans are the real monsters" and the father-daughter relationship journey thing was done much better in Telltale's The Walking Dead with Lee and Clementine. This is exactly why this game is one of the most overrated games in our history. Gamers salivating over shit just tells me this is baby's first epic game. Every 1st party Sony game is thusly overrated to hell and back. I don't get it. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:938172984] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Veggeta_MAX posted... </cite> <quote>Yall need to stop acting like the first game's plot was amazing. It's not. It's unoriginal, predictable, the theme of the game is stupid old zombie trope of "Humans are the real monsters" and the father-daughter relationship journey thing was done much better in Telltale's The Walking Dead with Lee and Clementine. This is exactly why this game is one of the most overrated games in our history. Gamers salivating over shit just tells me this is baby's first epic game.</quote> Every 1st party Sony game is thusly overrated to hell and back. I don't get it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChuckSDeuces 04/27/20 9:54:44 AM #69:	Doom_Art posted... well that, like any other form of art, is entirely subjective. depends on your tastes and what you're looking for in a game It sounds like you're looking for a movie more than a game. I'm glad you get your fix with games tho but dont get made when gamers are less enthusiastic --- Charles Stanley Deuces Esq. <cite>ChuckSDeuces posted [p:938173011] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>well that, like any other form of art, is entirely subjective. depends on your tastes and what you're looking for in a game</quote> It sounds like you're looking for a movie more than a game. I'm glad you get your fix with games tho but dont get made when gamers are less enthusiastic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lyrica 04/27/20 9:56:38 AM #70:	ChuckSDeuces posted... It sounds like you're looking for a movie more than a game. I'm glad you get your fix with games tho but dont get made when gamers are less enthusiastic You mean you're less enthusiastic? It's a good thing every game isn't meant to cater to everyone. <cite>Lyrica posted [p:938173103] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>ChuckSDeuces posted... </cite> <quote>It sounds like you're looking for a movie more than a game. I'm glad you get your fix with games tho but dont get made when gamers are less enthusiastic</quote>You mean you're less enthusiastic? It's a good thing every game isn't meant to cater to everyone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 04/27/20 9:56:39 AM #71:	ChuckSDeuces posted... Because games are more than just the visual. They are interactive medium as well. okay? but they're still primarily visual unless it's like a text based game, the primary way you experience the game is visually ChuckSDeuces posted... It's kind of like a movie that is shot well but has horrible acting and writing isnt a good movie. haven't watched the leaks and i'm not gonna going off the first game, the acting was pretty top notch and as for your criticism of bad writing, well I can't judge that having not watched the leaks, but that's a pretty subjective thing there i'm trying to wrap my head around your reticence on this --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:938173105] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>ChuckSDeuces posted... </cite> <quote>Because games are more than just the visual. They are interactive medium as well.</quote>okay? but they're still primarily visual unless it's like a text based game, the primary way you experience the game is visually ChuckSDeuces posted... </cite> <quote>It's kind of like a movie that is shot well but has horrible acting and writing isnt a good movie.</quote>haven't watched the leaks and i'm not gonna going off the first game, the acting was pretty top notch and as for your criticism of bad writing, well I can't judge that having not watched the leaks, but that's a pretty subjective thing there i'm trying to wrap my head around your reticence on this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChuckSDeuces 04/27/20 9:57:41 AM #72:	Lyrica posted... You mean you're less enthusiastic? It's a good thing every game isn't meant to cater to everyone. Agreed It's why you guys shouldn't be so defensive everyone isnt dumping praise on these leaks. --- Charles Stanley Deuces Esq. <cite>ChuckSDeuces posted [p:938173136] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Lyrica posted... </cite> <quote>You mean you're less enthusiastic? It's a good thing every game isn't meant to cater to everyone.</quote> Agreed It's why you guys shouldn't be so defensive everyone isnt dumping praise on these leaks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChuckSDeuces 04/27/20 9:58:34 AM #73:	Doom_Art posted... they're still primarily visual No, games are primarily interactive. Once again you're confusing games with film. --- Charles Stanley Deuces Esq. <cite>ChuckSDeuces posted [p:938173164] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>they're still primarily visual</quote> No, games are primarily interactive. Once again you're confusing games with film. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 04/27/20 9:59:03 AM #74:	ChuckSDeuces posted... It's why you guys shouldn't be so defensive everyone isnt dumping praise on these leaks. again, i don't particularly care if you like the story i'm just puzzled by this hostility towards game devs trying to make their games look more cinematic --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:938173184] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>ChuckSDeuces posted... </cite> <quote>It's why you guys shouldn't be so defensive everyone isnt dumping praise on these leaks.</quote>again, i don't particularly care if you like the story i'm just puzzled by this hostility towards game devs trying to make their games look more cinematic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChuckSDeuces 04/27/20 10:01:10 AM #76:	Doom_Art posted... i'm just puzzled by this hostility towards game devs trying to make their games look more cinematic Because the gameplay often suffers. I dont understand your reticence to this. God of War was a game that got it right. I would argue early MGS games as well, at least for the times. --- Charles Stanley Deuces Esq. <cite>ChuckSDeuces posted [p:938173271] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>i'm just puzzled by this hostility towards game devs trying to make their games look more cinematic</quote> Because the gameplay often suffers. I dont understand your reticence to this. God of War was a game that got it right. I would argue early MGS games as well, at least for the times. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 04/27/20 10:01:19 AM #77:	ChuckSDeuces posted... No, games are primarily interactive. how do you experience most games do you read text popping up on a blank background do you listen to someone describing it to you --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:938173280] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>ChuckSDeuces posted... </cite> <quote>No, games are primarily interactive.</quote>how do you experience most games do you read text popping up on a blank background do you listen to someone describing it to you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 04/27/20 10:02:08 AM #78:	ChuckSDeuces posted... Agreed It's why you guys shouldn't be so defensive everyone isnt dumping praise on these leaks. They can't live with that. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:938173306] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>ChuckSDeuces posted... </cite> <quote>Agreed It's why you guys shouldn't be so defensive everyone isnt dumping praise on these leaks.</quote> They can't live with that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChuckSDeuces 04/27/20 10:03:40 AM #79:	Doom_Art posted... how do you experience most games do you read text popping up on a blank background do you listen to someone describing it to you How do you play most games? --- Charles Stanley Deuces Esq. <cite>ChuckSDeuces posted [p:938173363] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>how do you experience most games do you read text popping up on a blank background do you listen to someone describing it to you</quote> How do you play most games? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lyrica 04/27/20 10:03:51 AM #80:	ChuckSDeuces posted... Agreed It's why you guys shouldn't be so defensive everyone isnt dumping praise on these leaks. I don't have an issue with that. I have an issue with Veggeta acting like his opinion is fact and anyone who likes the TLOU is wrong for doing so. <cite>Lyrica posted [p:938173370] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>ChuckSDeuces posted... </cite> <quote>Agreed It's why you guys shouldn't be so defensive everyone isnt dumping praise on these leaks.</quote>I don't have an issue with that. I have an issue with Veggeta acting like his opinion is fact and anyone who likes the TLOU is wrong for doing so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 04/27/20 10:05:20 AM #81:	You aren't wrong for liking this game but you will be judged for your reasons of liking this game. Hopefully I got the confusion out of the way. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:938173429] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>You aren't wrong for liking this game but you will be judged for your reasons of liking this game. Hopefully I got the confusion out of the way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 04/27/20 10:05:32 AM #82:	ChuckSDeuces posted... Because the gameplay often suffers. says who you just mentioned God of War I'd argue some of the Uncharted games, Mass Effect 2, Shadow of the Colossus, RDR2 (off the top of my head) are evidence that you can achieve wonderful cinematography while maintaining great gameplay --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:938173432] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>ChuckSDeuces posted... </cite> <quote>Because the gameplay often suffers.</quote>says who you just mentioned God of War I'd argue some of the Uncharted games, Mass Effect 2, Shadow of the Colossus, RDR2 (off the top of my head) are evidence that you can achieve wonderful cinematography while maintaining great gameplay </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 04/27/20 10:07:02 AM #83:	ChuckSDeuces posted... How do you play most games? i look at my screen and see all the moving pictures lol --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:938173478] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>ChuckSDeuces posted... </cite> <quote>How do you play most games?</quote>i look at my screen and see all the moving pictures lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 04/27/20 10:07:23 AM #84:	Doom_Art posted... says who you just mentioned God of War I'd argue some of the Uncharted games, Mass Effect 2, Shadow of the Colossus, RDR2 (off the top of my head) are evidence that you can achieve wonderful cinematography while maintaining great gameplay Not RDR2 --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:938173495] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>says who you just mentioned God of War I'd argue some of the Uncharted games, Mass Effect 2, Shadow of the Colossus, RDR2 (off the top of my head) are evidence that you can achieve wonderful cinematography while maintaining great gameplay</quote>Not RDR2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChuckSDeuces 04/27/20 10:09:14 AM #85:	Doom_Art posted... i look at my screen and see all the moving pictures lol You dont use a controller or problem solve at all? I think we are at an impasse. You're clearly more of a consumer whole I am a gamer so we just cant understand each others different views --- Charles Stanley Deuces Esq. <cite>ChuckSDeuces posted [p:938173588] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>i look at my screen and see all the moving pictures lol</quote> You dont use a controller or problem solve at all? I think we are at an impasse. You're clearly more of a consumer whole I am a gamer so we just cant understand each others different views </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChuckSDeuces 04/27/20 10:11:07 AM #86:	Doom_Art posted... says who you just mentioned God of War I'd argue some of the Uncharted games, Mass Effect 2, Shadow of the Colossus, RDR2 (off the top of my head) are evidence that you can achieve wonderful cinematography while maintaining great gameplay I'm not arguing that. Please actually read my posts. --- Charles Stanley Deuces Esq. <cite>ChuckSDeuces posted [p:938173655] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>says who you just mentioned God of War I'd argue some of the Uncharted games, Mass Effect 2, Shadow of the Colossus, RDR2 (off the top of my head) are evidence that you can achieve wonderful cinematography while maintaining great gameplay</quote> I'm not arguing that. Please actually read my posts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 04/27/20 10:11:16 AM #87:	ChuckSDeuces posted... You dont use a controller or problem solve at all? well yea i'm not just sitting there slapping buttons, i'm watching shit happening on screen lol ChuckSDeuces posted... You're clearly more of a consumer whole I am a gamer. did you steal this from somewhere it reminds me of that "they targeted gamers" copypasta lol --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:938173661] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>ChuckSDeuces posted... </cite> <quote>You dont use a controller or problem solve at all?</quote>well yea i'm not just sitting there slapping buttons, i'm watching shit happening on screen lol ChuckSDeuces posted... </cite> <quote>You're clearly more of a consumer whole I am a gamer.</quote>did you steal this from somewhere it reminds me of that "they targeted gamers" copypasta lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChuckSDeuces 04/27/20 10:12:44 AM #88:	Doom_Art posted... i'm not just sitting there slapping buttons, i'm watching shit happening on screen lol So if you put the controller down what happens? --- Charles Stanley Deuces Esq. <cite>ChuckSDeuces posted [p:938173714] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>i'm not just sitting there slapping buttons, i'm watching shit happening on screen lol</quote> So if you put the controller down what happens? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 04/27/20 10:13:14 AM #90:	wat lol --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:938173740] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>wat lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 04/27/20 10:13:27 AM #91:	In the case of this game, it's pretty obvious actual gameplay was very secondary vs the other themes of this game which some may love it and then some may find it with flaws. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:938173747] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>In the case of this game, it's pretty obvious actual gameplay was very secondary vs the other themes of this game which some may love it and then some may find it with flaws. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Scarecrow 04/27/20 10:13:55 AM #92:	Hairistotle posted... what's the story behind the leak? idc what the leak is since i think tlou is p shit, but why are people saying naughty dawg deserves this? ND fully embraced crunch culture. Worked their employees so hard that some of them ended up in the hospital. An ex employee said on Twitter that most of ND's talent had left when Neil Druckmann took charge. Even veteran writer Amy Hennig, who previously worked in Jak and Daxter and Uncharted 1-3, left the studio due to differences between her and Neil. Another major figure at ND, can't remember his name, left after taking a long break from work crunch for one of their latest games. It's an absolute shitshow. Many of the animators working on TLOU2 are people who mainly work on movies(lol) because everyone else quit. The reason why TLOU2 has taken so long to come out is because all of these new folks working on the game don't have any experience with game development so it's been a slow and challenging process. ND itself is known throughout Santa Monica to be a horrible place to work at. Aspiring game devs fresh out of college are warned to avoid getting a job there. I wish I was making this shit up. --- https://soundcloud.com/cameron-jackson-19995732/kneecaps https://soundcloud.com/cameron-jackson-19995732/broke-boy-chronicle-1 Check out these fire tracks <cite>The_Scarecrow posted [p:938173772] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Hairistotle posted... </cite> <quote>what's the story behind the leak? idc what the leak is since i think tlou is p shit, but why are people saying naughty dawg deserves this?</quote> ND fully embraced crunch culture. Worked their employees so hard that some of them ended up in the hospital. An ex employee said on Twitter that most of ND's talent had left when Neil Druckmann took charge. Even veteran writer Amy Hennig, who previously worked in Jak and Daxter and Uncharted 1-3, left the studio due to differences between her and Neil. Another major figure at ND, can't remember his name, left after taking a long break from work crunch for one of their latest games. It's an absolute shitshow. Many of the animators working on TLOU2 are people who mainly work on movies(lol) because everyone else quit. The reason why TLOU2 has taken so long to come out is because all of these new folks working on the game don't have any experience with game development so it's been a slow and challenging process. ND itself is known throughout Santa Monica to be a horrible place to work at. Aspiring game devs fresh out of college are warned to avoid getting a job there. I wish I was making this shit up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChuckSDeuces 04/27/20 10:14:56 AM #93:	Doom_Art posted... wat lol If you put the controller down the game stops where you are. Ergo gaming is primarily an interactive medium. --- Charles Stanley Deuces Esq. <cite>ChuckSDeuces posted [p:938173806] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>wat lol</quote> If you put the controller down the game stops where you are. Ergo gaming is primarily an interactive medium. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 04/27/20 10:15:55 AM #95:	anyway there's no point dragging this out. i think you're criticism is dumb but clearly you're not changing your opinion on it i still find the whole "gamer" attitude amusing lol --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:938173847] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>anyway there's no point dragging this out. i think you're criticism is dumb but clearly you're not changing your opinion on it i still find the whole "gamer" attitude amusing lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skype 04/27/20 10:19:07 AM #96:	Veggeta_MAX posted... You aren't wrong for liking this game but you will be judged for your reasons of liking this game. Hopefully I got the confusion out of the way. That's literally most games out there. Not sure why you're saying this like it matters. --- What the heck <cite>Skype posted [p:938173990] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Veggeta_MAX posted... </cite> <quote>You aren't wrong for liking this game but you will be judged for your reasons of liking this game. Hopefully I got the confusion out of the way.</quote> That's literally most games out there. Not sure why you're saying this like it matters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChuckSDeuces 04/27/20 10:19:26 AM #97:	Doom_Art posted... anyway there's no point dragging this out. i think you're criticism is dumb but clearly you're not changing your opinion on it i still find the whole "gamer" attitude amusing lol I cant tell if you're really this dense or just a shitposter at this point. --- Charles Stanley Deuces Esq. <cite>ChuckSDeuces posted [p:938174006] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>anyway there's no point dragging this out. i think you're criticism is dumb but clearly you're not changing your opinion on it i still find the whole "gamer" attitude amusing lol</quote> I cant tell if you're really this dense or just a shitposter at this point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 04/27/20 10:20:34 AM #98:	Skype posted... That's literally most games out there. Not sure why you're saying this like it matters. Have you seen the exceptions and passes they made for this game to over praise this game? --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:938174052] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>Skype posted... </cite> <quote>That's literally most games out there. Not sure why you're saying this like it matters.</quote>Have you seen the exceptions and passes they made for this game to over praise this game? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 04/27/20 10:20:41 AM #99:	I totally get what you're saying, I just think you're laughably wrong lol but i'm just a consumer i guess ;P --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:938174060] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>I totally get what you're saying, I just think you're laughably wrong lol but i'm just a consumer i guess ;P </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 04/27/20 10:22:16 AM #100:	The_Scarecrow posted... ND fully embraced crunch culture. Worked their employees so hard that some of them ended up in the hospital. An ex employee said on Twitter that most of ND's talent had left when Neil Druckmann took charge. Even veteran writer Amy Hennig, who previously worked in Jak and Daxter and Uncharted 1-3, left the studio due to differences between her and Neil. Another major figure at ND, can't remember his name, left after taking a long break from work crunch for one of their latest games. It's an absolute shitshow. Many of the animators working on TLOU2 are people who mainly work on movies(lol) because everyone else quit. The reason why TLOU2 has taken so long to come out is because all of these new folks working on the game don't have any experience with game development so it's been a slow and challenging process. ND itself is known throughout Santa Monica to be a horrible place to work at. Aspiring game devs fresh out of college are warned to avoid getting a job there. I wish I was making this shit up. Thank you. This answers the question of "why are you all loling over this". You said in one post what VMAX couldn't say in fifty. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:938174120] in the last o... [t:78629435]...</cite> <quote>The_Scarecrow posted... </cite> <quote>ND fully embraced crunch culture. Worked their employees so hard that some of them ended up in the hospital. An ex employee said on Twitter that most of ND's talent had left when Neil Druckmann took charge. Even veteran writer Amy Hennig, who previously worked in Jak and Daxter and Uncharted 1-3, left the studio due to differences between her and Neil. Another major figure at ND, can't remember his name, left after taking a long break from work crunch for one of their latest games. It's an absolute shitshow. Many of the animators working on TLOU2 are people who mainly work on movies(lol) because everyone else quit. The reason why TLOU2 has taken so long to come out is because all of these new folks working on the game don't have any experience with game development so it's been a slow and challenging process. ND itself is known throughout Santa Monica to be a horrible place to work at. Aspiring game devs fresh out of college are warned to avoid getting a job there. I wish I was making this shit up.</quote>Thank you. This answers the question of "why are you all loling over this". You said in one post what VMAX couldn't say in fifty. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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