Current Events > Ganondorf invades Skyrim - how do they fare?

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Ganondorf, the King of Evil, invades Skyrim at the time of Alduin's awakening.
Ganondorf's mission is simple: Bring the kingdom to its knees and conquer.
Ganondorf invades with:

Basic Troops (x1000 Each)
Bokoblins, Lizalfos, Stalfos, Redead

Intermediate Troops (x500 Each)
Poes, Like-Likes, Dodongo

Advanced Troops (x100 Each)
Darknuts, Winged Lizalfos, Wizzrobes, Shadow Beasts, Moblin Riders (on Boars)

Generals (x1 Each)
Phantom Ganon, Twinrova, Dark Link, Zant, Helmararoc King

How does he fare against Skyrim, her people and her gods? Does he feud with Alduin or enthrall him and the dragons?

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His army loses to Skyrim's forces. Either Stormcloaks or Imperials if it's not both. And the Dragonborn curbstomps him in a duel.

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The Draugr could take him. Especially the ones that shout.
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gets curb stomped fairly easily. there are WAY worse things in the elder scrolls universe then ganondorf.

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Is the Numidium involved in any way?

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It would require Elder Scroll or Divine intervention (Which usually seems to happen in these situations), but Skyrim could defeat Ganon.

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I don't know a lot about ES lore, but I'll play the advocate on Ganondorf's behalf. Ya'll are overlooking two things: Zant and LoZ's love of MacGuffins.

Zant was the one turning entire regions of Hyrule into Twilight, filling them with monsters and transforming the inhabitants into spirits. He should be Ganondorf's opening shot in the war. Zant covertly portal-travels around the country to places like Solitude and casts Twilight over them. Thanks to Skyrim lacking the necessary MacGuffins, there's a good chance no one can reverse that. Even if you assume Zant can't fill the area with Twili because they're not on OP's list, Skyrim's military and magical forces are immediately crippled and trapped in an alternate dimension, most of them without even knowing about it.

What's more, Zant can't be killed while Ganondorf lives. Ganondorf can only be killed by the Master Sword.

That's assuming Ganondorf wants to outright conquer. He's shown that he can be manipulative and work behind the scenes, so he could also just covertly stir up the unrest between the Imperials and the Stormcloaks. When both sides are hurting from a civil war, he swoops in.

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A Giant sends him into orbit.

gg no re

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pegusus123456 posted...

He's shown that he can be manipulative and work behind the scenes, so he could also just covertly stir up the unrest between the Imperials and the Stormcloaks. When both sides are hurting from a civil war, he swoops in.

Yeah, people constantly overlook this part of him. He's NOT a dumb brute, he's pretty damn clever.

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Plenty of named npcs could easily put him down tbh

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AlabamaLove posted...

Plenty of named npcs could easily put him down tbh

pegusus123456 posted...

Ganondorf can only be killed by the Master Sword.

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They dont HAVE to kill him. They could easily kill everything around him and them put him in a tomb and seal it off once they realize he cant die.

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There are worse things than death

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pegusus123456 posted...

Ganondorf can only be killed by the Master Sword.

In a lore crossover scenario stuff like this won't apply otherwise the proposition just becomes stupid. "Can an invincible enemy who's only weakness doesn't exist in this world be defeated?"

With that being said, the grunt enemies in zelda are pretty lame amd would get wiped out by the armies in skyrim quite easily. As for Ganondorf himself, link always beats him and the dragonborn has more fantastical powers so he/she should be up to the task.

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https://i.imgur.com/Lutu1Bj.png

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TomNook20 posted...

In a lore crossover scenario stuff like this won't apply otherwise the proposition just becomes stupid. "Can an invincible enemy who's only weakness doesn't exist in this world be defeated?"

Then everything else I said is still true and Ganondorf just does what he does in TP: stays out of sight and let Zant be the "master" of the army.

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you could assume that ganondorf would be scaled to the skyrim world and would roflstomp

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Not saying ganondorf wouldnt lose but i think people are sorely underestimating his power.

He wields the power of a god and the only person who ever beats him also does.

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mooreandrew58 posted...

Not saying ganondorf wouldnt lose but i think people are sorely underestimating his power.

He wields the power of a god and the only person who ever beats him also does.

The gods in TLoZ are not very impressive

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Ganondorf destroys. Even if you ignored the Master Sword, he needs Link or Zelda to even seal him. Without them, the world is done.


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Irony posted...

The gods in TLoZ are not very impressive

Literally requires the master sword to kill him. Being sealed is worst anyone else has done to him and he always gets free.

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Don't need to kill him

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Irony posted...

Don't need to kill him

Once again most anyone else has done is seal him and that never lasts forever. Also recall he was buried alive in the rubble of his castle and busted out like it was a paper bag.

Hes physically stronger than y'all are giving him credit for

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Dragonborn will just stomp him in the ground

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Hairistotle posted...

Ganondorf solos; doesn't need an army

And the army TC gives him is generous considering the population of Skyrim isnt even that many

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Irony posted...

The gods in TLoZ are not very impressive

Zelda has creation gods who are omnipotent.

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archedsoul posted...

Ganondorf destroys. Even if you ignored the Master Sword, he needs Link or Zelda to even seal him. Without them, the world is done.

Why wouldn't there exist similar power in TES to seal or banish? Nothing about Zelda puts her magic above the powers shown in TES. The Elder Scrolls themselves have literally appeared on more than one occasion just to give the people of Tamriel a way to stop some incredible evil. I find it unlikely that Ganon is substantially stronger than the likes of Mehrunes Dagon, who could only be defeated in TES: Oblivion by summoning Akatosh, one of the most powerful gods in TES, to banish his ass back to Oblivion. Most likely Ganon would get banished to a realm of Oblivion where he would become the peer of the narratively similar Daedeic Princes.

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Demon King > Daedeic Princes

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neverwin posted...

Zelda has creation gods who are omnipotent.

The Golden Goddess' have done almost nothing to stop Ganon. As a matter of fact, they are partly responsible in most LoZ games for him having so much power considering they literally left all their power in the Triforce, which Ganon, starting with the Triforce of Power, uses to become immensely powerful.

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Pogo_Marimo posted...

The Golden Goddess' have done almost nothing to stop Ganon. As a matter of fact, they are partly responsible in most LoZ games for him having so much power considering they literally left all their power in the Triforce, which Ganon, starting with the Triforce of Power, uses to become immensely powerful.

It's a prank bro.



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https://youtu.be/xjyC5pv-hGc

Like, are we to pretend that the Golden Goddesses, who are the creation dieties, somehow have some special sauce that makes their divine creation power better than basically the exact analogue in the TES mythos? If only the Master Sword, created blessed with the power of the Golden Goddesses, can defeat Ganon in Hyrule, then why couldn't a divinely blessed weapon from the Nine Divine or Nirn itself in Skyrim do the same? Obviously these worlds and their dieties physically react to the presence of these evil entities of immense power, that has been the narrative thread in every TES and LoZ game.

Ganon would show up, a chosen one would arise, an Elder Scroll will reveal how to combine the blessings of the Nine Divine through some convoluted story arc to forge a weapon of immense power, the Hero of the Nine would assend the Throat of the World where Ganon has taken residence, but only after defeating the Altmer and uniting the warring factions of Skyrim into a powerful army, and defeat Ganon once and for all. Woo hoo.

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Pogo_Marimo posted...

The Golden Goddess' have done almost nothing to stop Ganon. As a matter of fact, they are partly responsible in most LoZ games for him having so much power considering they literally left all their power in the Triforce, which Ganon, starting with the Triforce of Power, uses to become immensely powerful.

That doesn't mean they aren't powerful, in fact it implies they were never really benevolent in the first place.

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Pogo_Marimo posted...

Like, are we to pretend that the Golden Goddesses, who are the creation dieties, somehow have some special sauce that makes their divine creation power better than basically the exact analogue in the TES mythos? If only the Master Sword, created blessed with the power of the Golden Goddesses, can defeat Ganon in Hyrule, then why couldn't a divinely blessed weapon from the Nine Divine or Nirn itself in Skyrim do the same? Obviously these worlds and their dieties physically react to the presence of these evil entities of immense power, that has been the narrative thread in every TES and LoZ game.

Ganon would show up, a chosen one would arise, an Elder Scroll will reveal how to combine the blessings of the Nine Divine through some convoluted story arc to forge a weapon of immense power, the Hero of the Nine would assend the Throat of the World where Ganon has taken residence, but only after defeating the Altmer and uniting the warring factions of Skyrim into a powerful army, and defeat Ganon once and for all. Woo hoo.

The three goddesses power isn't involved with the Master Sword, the master sword is mostly the goddess Hylia's power which is designed to kill Demise who is an immortal God himself.

Just so happens Ganondorf is a reincarnation of Demise.

Zelda is Hylia incarnate, and Link is Hylia's Knight incarnate (who supposedly is a powerful gaurdian of sorts).

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pegusus123456 posted...

What's more, Zant can't be killed while Ganondorf lives. Ganondorf can only be killed by the Master Sword.

https://skyrim.gamepedia.com/Master_Sword
And?

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Lord_Shadow posted...

https://skyrim.gamepedia.com/Master_Sword
And?

Skyrim lacks the context to know that though. No one's going to know that this one sword at the top of a mountain is going to kill Ganondorf.

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pegusus123456 posted...

Skyrim lacks the context to know that though. No one's going to know that this one sword at the top of a mountain is going to kill Ganondorf.

The dragon born will get a Quest to kill Gannondorf and the quest marker will tell him

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Lord_Shadow posted...

https://skyrim.gamepedia.com/Master_Sword
And?

It says right there that the people know nothing of it...

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Sneak Archer kills him in one shot. He's already weak to arrows

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Patrick Stewart asks for help and it's over

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Ganon might do okay if he comes in with the triforce of power already, so he's basically a god invading and can only be defeated by "destiny" bullhonkey, but Skyrim has that kind of stuff too.

Otherwise, I think Ganon doesn't make it too far here.

Also Skyrim is more then Skyrim a war with Skyrim is a war with The Empire

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Lord_Shadow posted...

Also Skyrim is more then Skyrim a war with Skyrim is a war with The Empire

So what you're saying is that Twinrova should kidnap and brainwash the Jarls to run interference and keep the Empire away.

Ya'll sleeping on Team Ganon's abilities smh

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Having him be invincible because no Link/Zelda/master sword is lame and no fun.

Someone in Tamriel would figure something out eventually. It's suffered through worse things and overcame them.

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Is this Alduin being dick head? Or Alduin actually fulfilling the duties as Worldeater. Because if the latter, Ganons getting eaten.

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Remember that the power of Ganondorf's influence corrupted the entire land of Hyrule and bent all its creatures into madness/subservience. Including a dragon called Volvagia, whom Ganondorf also revived from the dead. That means he can reasonably turn Skyrim's dragons into his pawns, and he can revive dragons that have already been slain.

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An overt enemy like Ganondorf would be the perfect reason for the Stormcloaks and the Imperials putting aside their differences and joining forces to defeat him imo
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