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Darmik
04/23/20 11:58:04 PM
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I can't think of much competition. Still holds up well. Awesome game and the atmosphere and story holds up.

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Kazi1212
04/23/20 11:59:43 PM
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Resident evil a shooter?

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boxington
04/24/20 12:01:31 AM
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idk why, but the first Max Payne is the only one in the series that I don't like.

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J03can
04/24/20 12:04:42 AM
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Max Payne 3 is the best 3rd person shooter of all time

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bevan306
04/24/20 12:14:31 AM
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fan357
04/24/20 12:27:49 AM
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J03can posted...
Max Payne 3 is the best 3rd person shooter of all time
You mean 2.

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BobanMarjanovic
04/24/20 12:33:49 AM
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J03can posted...
Max Payne 3 is the best 3rd person shooter of all time


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Garioshi
04/24/20 12:34:45 AM
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The dream sequences are so unabashedly terrible that I can't put it above a lot of TPSes.

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Irony
04/24/20 12:36:31 AM
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Killswitch

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ultimate reaver
04/24/20 12:39:47 AM
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yes, and after as well until vanquish came out

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Darmik
04/24/20 1:17:55 AM
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Garioshi posted...
The dream sequences are so unabashedly terrible that I can't put it above a lot of TPSes.

Outside of the blood trail platforming it's not that bad. I think the hate is a bit overstated. It doesn't take too long.

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Garioshi
04/24/20 1:19:19 AM
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Darmik posted...
Outside of the blood trail platforming it's not that bad. I think the hate is a bit overstated. It doesn't take too long.
I played it on the PS2. I can't overstate how goddamn terrible it was.

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Wii_Shaker
04/24/20 1:33:40 AM
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I think RE4 is a better over-all game but The Max Payne Trilogy are all better 3rd-person shooters.

Both have Adventure elements but I would say RE4 leans more into it that MP.

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Giblet_Enjoyer
04/24/20 2:15:48 AM
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J03can posted...
Max Payne 3 is the best 3rd person shooter of all time
Yeah idk about that
https://webmshare.com/wZzbY
https://webmshare.com/aMZvM

The best strategy on harder difficulties is to slowly crawl along, shooting guys safely from behind cover without actually being exposed at all because the game hilariously generates bullets from the crosshair rather than the gun (see first webm)
Second webm is an unrelated glitch that shows how shoddy R*'s movement systems are. I'd post another showing the clunky ragdolling that happens to your character at inopportune times but I can't be bothered to find it

Pretty good game but TPS has a lot better to offer

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indica
04/24/20 3:13:38 AM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Yeah idk about that
https://webmshare.com/wZzbY
https://webmshare.com/aMZvM

The best strategy on harder difficulties is to slowly crawl along, shooting guys safely from behind cover without actually being exposed at all because the game hilariously generates bullets from the crosshair rather than the gun (see first webm)
Second webm is an unrelated glitch that shows how shoddy R*'s movement systems are. I'd post another showing the clunky ragdolling that happens to your character at inopportune times but I can't be bothered to find it

Pretty good game but TPS has a lot better to offer
I think it was the best of its time. What would you consider better?

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Giblet_Enjoyer
04/25/20 11:13:23 PM
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indica posted...
I think it was the best of its time. What would you consider better?
Vanquish, the first two Max Payne games, Warframe, Red Faction Guerrilla, maybe Binary Domain, EDF 5

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Solid Sonic
04/25/20 11:22:00 PM
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Nothing stacks up to Vanquish.

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evil_zombie11
04/25/20 11:23:55 PM
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Max Paynes comic panels and the voice acting was god tier. Like the Twin Peaks like show that would play when youre walking around areas.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeSHjMBp-1A

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UnfairRepresent
04/25/20 11:29:36 PM
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I guess it depends on what you mean

Mass Effect was an amazing game and way better than RE4 and Max Complain 3 but that was story and atmosphere focused.

So is RE2make.
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coh
04/25/20 11:51:36 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I guess it depends on what you mean

Mass Effect was an amazing game and way better than RE4 and Max Complain 3 but that was story and atmosphere focused.

So is RE2make.
ME1 was garbage as a shooter which is what this topic is about
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Darmik
04/25/20 11:51:46 PM
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evil_zombie11 posted...
Max Paynes comic panels and the voice acting was god tier. Like the Twin Peaks like show that would play when youre walking around areas.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeSHjMBp-1A

Helps make the game age a lot better too since there's not many cutscenes with the blocky people.

Would also mean a sequel could presumably be lower budget than a standard AAA game but Rockstar don't roll like that.

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WarfireX
04/26/20 12:04:11 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I guess it depends on what you mean

Mass Effect was an amazing game and way better than RE4 and Max Complain 3 but that was story and atmosphere focused.

So is RE2make.
They aren't talking about any of that.

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Damn_Underscore
04/26/20 12:05:32 AM
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bevan306 posted...
hitman 2 was cool


No it wasn't. Amazing concept, horrible execution.
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indica
04/26/20 5:00:51 AM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Vanquish, the first two Max Payne games, Warframe, Red Faction Guerrilla, maybe Binary Domain, EDF 5
Vanquish and MP2 I can see, but RF Guerilla and EDF 5...lol, no, just no--I can no longer take you seriously on this matter.

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Darmik
04/26/20 9:42:05 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
No it wasn't. Amazing concept, horrible execution.

I dunno which Hitman 2 you are referring to but you're wrong either way.

The shooting in Hitman 2 is just serviceable either way. It's a stealth game.

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Giblet_Enjoyer
04/26/20 11:02:43 PM
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indica posted...
Vanquish and MP2 I can see, but RF Guerilla and EDF 5...lol, no, just no--I can no longer take you seriously on this matter.
You have shit taste, got it

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indica
04/27/20 12:45:24 AM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
I have shit taste, got it
FTFY

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EffectAndCause
04/27/20 12:47:33 AM
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It still is.
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Giblet_Enjoyer
04/27/20 12:48:09 AM
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Sorry I can't hear you with your mouth full of shit

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indica
04/27/20 8:53:50 AM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Sorry I can't hear you with my mouth full of shit
FTFY

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UnfairRepresent
04/27/20 9:40:15 AM
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WarfireX posted...

They aren't talking about any of that.

Then what are they talking about?
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Lyrica
04/27/20 9:41:53 AM
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Resident Evil 4 was NEVER considered the best third person shooter, wtf.
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boxington
04/27/20 9:46:40 AM
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M_Live posted...
I dont think the OG Max Payne holds up very well. Max Payne 2 is better
how I feel.

it's better in pretty much every capacity.

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boxington
04/27/20 9:47:16 AM
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Lyrica posted...
Resident Evil 4 was NEVER considered the best third person shooter, wtf.
it's one of the most influential TPS games

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Lyrica
04/27/20 9:53:27 AM
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boxington posted...
it's one of the most influential TPS games
Influential, yes. Best, no.
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP
04/27/20 9:55:52 AM
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gta

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Lyrica
04/27/20 9:57:25 AM
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...
gta
Lol no
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eston
04/27/20 9:57:31 AM
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Just a side note, but I remember back in the day I got into modding MP2 and it turns out it's a pretty kickass FPS too, lol

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Darmik
04/27/20 6:04:26 PM
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M_Live posted...
I dont think the OG Max Payne holds up very well. Max Payne 2 is better

I'm fine with including 2. My only issue was it was a bit shorter.

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lilJoe457
04/27/20 6:05:44 PM
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Garioshi posted...
The dream sequences are so unabashedly terrible that I can't put it above a lot of TPSes.

Yikes. What a shit opinion

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Darmik
04/27/20 6:21:55 PM
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I just noticed there hasn't been a single game released before Max Payne mentioned in this topic. A couple released between Max Payne and RE4. Most are after both.

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Garioshi
04/27/20 7:47:46 PM
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lilJoe457 posted...
Yikes. What a shit opinion
I played the PS2 version if that makes it any less shit. Suboptimal frame rate, you can't fucking see anything, 30-second load times if you die, having to do precise movement on an imprecise controller, having to do precise jumps from one height to another on an imprecise controller, and that damn scream every single time you died. Absolute shit.

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Darmik
04/27/20 7:51:54 PM
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Yeah I don't think the PS2 port was good. It was downscaled too I think. PC or Xbox is the way to go.

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mustachedmystic
04/27/20 7:53:41 PM
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I love RE4, just played though it less than 2 months ago, but I don't consider it a shooter.


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