Current Events > My friend bought $1800 in oil stock yesterday. Smart move?

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MFBKBass5
04/21/20 12:03:31 PM
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Think he bought an ETF. Forget which one.

You think now is the time to jump in on buying some oil stocks or ETFs while its crashing?

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Steve Nick
04/21/20 12:04:33 PM
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It's gonna get even worse dude. The country isn't opening back up for another month.

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Mezcla
04/21/20 12:05:10 PM
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yeah oil

thats the future

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MFBKBass5
04/21/20 12:05:24 PM
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Steve Nick posted...
It's gonna get even worse dude. The country isn't opening back up for another month.


which would be the perfect time to buy. I think I might buy $300 worth and sit on it for a year or so, when things are back to normal ish.

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MFBKBass5
04/21/20 12:05:45 PM
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Mezcla posted...
yeah oil

thats the future

Im talking relatively short term investments here.

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fhqwhgads
04/21/20 12:06:12 PM
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"My friend"

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MFBKBass5
04/21/20 12:06:58 PM
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fhqwhgads posted...
"My friend"


Lol I dont have $1800 to risk on oil stock right now. Def wasnt me.

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fhqwhgads
04/21/20 12:07:21 PM
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MFBKBass5 posted...
Lol I dont have $1800 to risk on oil stock right now. Def wasnt me.
Oh snap my bad

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Fam_Fam
04/21/20 12:07:32 PM
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MFBKBass5 posted...
Lol I dont have $1800 to risk on oil stock right now. Def wasnt me.
he won't have $1800 either soon enough
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Austin_Era_II
04/21/20 12:08:27 PM
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"1800" lol chump change in the world of stock market <_<


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MFBKBass5
04/21/20 12:09:09 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
he won't have $1800 either soon enough


You think so? The price of gas WILL go back up. The reason it crashed is because no one is driving. Theyre sitting on oil that cant go anywhere, since people arent filling up their cars.

Once people start driving again the cost of a barrel of oil will go back up significantly. Last year it was at $100/barrel. Yesterday was like...-30?

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Colorahdo
04/21/20 12:10:07 PM
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It's a great idea, pretty silly to think oil prices won't ever go over $1.50/gal again...

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MFBKBass5
04/21/20 12:10:09 PM
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Austin_Era_II posted...
"1800" lol chump change in the world of stock market <_<


oh yeah. My buddy invests in a ton of shit on the stock market. He makes around 120k/year, and probably has a savings account with around 100 grand in it too. $1800 is nothing for him to lose.

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DarkChozoGhost
04/21/20 12:11:08 PM
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I hope it was a bad move

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Squall28
04/21/20 12:12:24 PM
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Oil stocks have been shitty for a while, and it's not changing now.

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theAteam
04/21/20 12:13:28 PM
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I believe the 1-year projection on oil is like $21 per barrel which is still awful.

If he holds for at least a few years he'll be good.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
04/21/20 3:21:21 PM
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Oil stocks are up today for some reason, I figured they would be getting destroyed w/ June futures plummeting 50%

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Time_Rider
04/21/20 3:23:55 PM
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MFBKBass5 posted...
You think so? The price of gas WILL go back up. The reason it crashed is because no one is driving. Theyre sitting on oil that cant go anywhere, since people arent filling up their cars.

Once people start driving again the cost of a barrel of oil will go back up significantly. Last year it was at $100/barrel. Yesterday was like...-30?

You think oil prices went down because Americans aren't driving? That's not why whatsoever, had nothing to do with the US.

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burns112233
04/21/20 3:28:00 PM
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It's going to suck when they start pumping less oil and everything opens back up and people have to pay $4 to 5 bucks per gallon.
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AngelsNAirwav3s
04/21/20 3:35:21 PM
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Time_Rider posted...
You think oil prices went down because Americans aren't driving? That's not why whatsoever, had nothing to do with the US.

Umm... oil demand drop is what caused this. The US is by far the largest oil consumer, so it is safe to say Americans not driving has something to do with oil being low lol.

Saudi/Russia price war accelerated the drop, thats for sure, but if that were the true cause, then the price of oil would have bounced back when OPEC+ agreed to the biggest production cut in history. Also oil was already dropping pretty quick before the Saudi/Russia fallout.

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Time_Rider
04/21/20 3:37:06 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Umm... oil demand drop is what caused this. The US is by far the largest oil consumer, so it is safe to say Americans not driving has something to do with oil being low lol.

Saudi/Russia price war accelerated the drop, thats for sure, but if that were the true cause, then the price of oil would have bounced back when OPEC+ agreed to the biggest production cut in history. Also oil was already dropping pretty quick before the Saudi/Russia fallout.

No, it didn't cause this. The huge drop happened before lockdowns. It's why it's still going though.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
04/21/20 3:41:03 PM
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Time_Rider posted...
No, it didn't cause this. The huge drop happened before lockdowns. It's why it's still going though.

The demand drop started in China when lockdowns went into place, and the prospectors buying oil started getting more and more worried that a lockdown would happen in the US and worldwide, causing an even bigger drop in oil futures.

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The Trent
04/21/20 3:45:10 PM
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hey i like oil

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Hexenherz
04/21/20 3:47:08 PM
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I just dropped close to 4k on it myself, figure it will go back up eventually (hopefully sooner rather than later but regardless it's a temporary thing in some respect).

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Lost_All_Senses
04/21/20 3:47:31 PM
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I followed your lead and bought 2k in snake oil stock. Now to sit back and get rich.

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XXmiznatorXX
04/21/20 3:48:29 PM
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I've thought about doing the same thing, actually. Oil demand is only low due to this. In the long run, millions of cars and roads are going to be used again. If he has the dough, go for it.
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Hexenherz
04/21/20 3:49:41 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
I followed your lead and bought 2k in snake oil stock. Now to sit back and get rich.
hoo boy don't blame me if it bottoms out and then everyone decides to go full electric -_-

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The Trent
04/21/20 3:50:23 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
hoo boy don't blame me if it bottoms out and then everyone decides to go full electric -_-

don't worry, no one will

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Lost_All_Senses
04/21/20 3:50:40 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
hoo boy don't blame me if it bottoms out and then everyone decides to go full electric -_-

Reread my post :p

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Squall28
04/21/20 4:23:15 PM
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Which stocks did you guys buy?

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Fam_Fam
04/22/20 7:30:47 AM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
The demand drop started in China when lockdowns went into place, and the prospectors buying oil started getting more and more worried that a lockdown would happen in the US and worldwide, causing an even bigger drop in oil futures.

so you're saying that the price dropped before demand dropped, got it. unless you are saying lol causality, this would make it impossible for the demand dropping because the cause of the price drop
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Time_Rider
04/22/20 9:48:30 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
so you're saying that the price dropped before demand dropped, got it. unless you are saying lol causality, this would make it impossible for the demand dropping because the cause of the price drop

That's exactly what happened. These guys are wrong by pinning the cause of low prices on American demand.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
04/22/20 11:16:13 AM
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The "price of oil" is based on oil futures contracts. People try to predict how much supply and demand there will be in the next month. Of course you don't know actual demand drops until the oil is actually consumed. I think we are just arguing semantics here, the prices crashed because people anticipated demand would be lower once the lockdowns went into place. Unless you believe there is some other mysterious reason the prices went down.

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Time_Rider
04/22/20 11:17:38 AM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
The "price of oil" is based on oil futures contracts. People try to predict how much supply and demand there will be in the next month. Of course you don't know actual demand drops until the oil is actually consumed. I think we are just arguing semantics here, the prices crashed because people anticipated demand would be lower once the lockdowns went into place. Unless you believe there is some other mysterious reason the prices went down.

The prices crashed well before those anticipations.

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Kombucha
04/22/20 11:23:46 AM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
The "price of oil" is based on oil futures contracts. People try to predict how much supply and demand there will be in the next month. Of course you don't know actual demand drops until the oil is actually consumed. I think we are just arguing semantics here, the prices crashed because people anticipated demand would be lower once the lockdowns went into place. Unless you believe there is some other mysterious reason the prices went down.

https://tinyurl.com/y8yxjzwf

There are some similarities today to what the Saudis did then, this time with Russian assistance. The aim is to inflict pain on American frackers, forcing them to shutter wells and give up the market share the U.S. has taken from Saudi Arabia, Russia and others.

The aim of both Saudi Arabia and Russia is to inflict pain on American producers forcing them to shutter wells and give up the market share.



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Jagr_68
04/22/20 11:34:05 AM
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My friend flushed $1800 down the toilet yesterday. Smart move?


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AngelsNAirwav3s
04/22/20 11:41:00 AM
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Time_Rider posted...
The prices crashed well before those anticipations.

No, oil was at almost a 52 week high in January at $62. When china started shutting down it dropped 25%.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/27/oil-markets-coronavirus-spread-in-focus.html

That is from the end of February.

Speculations that coronavirus may spread in the United States prompted a series of fresh selling, said Kazuhiko Saito, chief analyst at Fujitomi Co.

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DevsBro
04/22/20 11:44:15 AM
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Probably not the best possible time but you gotta imagine it will go up eventually.

It might even spike after reopenings if they're not done right, which they probably won't.

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Time_Rider
04/22/20 11:45:20 AM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
No, oil was at almost a 52 week high in January at $62. When china started shutting down it dropped 25%.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/27/oil-markets-coronavirus-spread-in-focus.html

That is from the end of February.

Speculations that coronavirus may spread in the United States prompted a series of fresh selling, said Kazuhiko Saito, chief analyst at Fujitomi Co.

I'm not talking about in January. No shit it was high then. March is when the crash happened, well before any demand issues were arising or could he considered. You're just wrong man. US consumer demand did NOT cause these low prices. They are maintaining them however.

Last response you'll get from me because you keep repeating this disingenuous and incorrect narrative. It's pointless to engage

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AngelsNAirwav3s
04/22/20 12:19:29 PM
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Time_Rider posted...
I'm not talking about in January. No shit it was high then. March is when the crash happened, well before any demand issues were arising or could he considered. You're just wrong man. US consumer demand did NOT cause these low prices. They are maintaining them however.

Last response you'll get from me because you keep repeating this disingenuous and incorrect narrative. It's pointless to engage

I just posted an article from February saying demand decline was already cratering prices. OPEC+ had an emergency meeting in March, and that is where Russia and Saudi decided to increase production. This caused the decline that was already happening to accelerate. If Saudi and Russia were the real reason oil prices are down, then we would be back to $60 oil right now since they just agreed to the biggest production cut ever, but oil is even lower.

If you are so sure that all the analysts are wrong and this isn't a demand issue, then what do you think is the reason oil is down?

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AngelsNAirwav3s
04/23/20 11:00:40 AM
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Looks like your friend made a good call, oil stocks up again today

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MFBKBass5
04/23/20 11:08:57 AM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Looks like your friend made a good call, oil stocks up again today


Yep. Im considering buying $300 in crude oil(UCO). In February their stock was at $300/share and now its at like $20.

Itll bounce back up for sure.

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