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LostForest 04/20/20 11:25:45 PM #1:	Episode was really, really unsatisfying. Can't believe Lalo vs Nacho is getting dragged out to the final season. Also, with all that worrying, Kim ain't gonna die now. She gonna be fine. --- http://dracanea.net <cite>LostForest posted [p:937788155] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Episode was really, really unsatisfying. Can't believe Lalo vs Nacho is getting dragged out to the final season. Also, with all that worrying, Kim ain't gonna die now. She gonna be fine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LostForest 04/21/20 12:35:49 AM #2:	Bump. I know people on CE are watching it. Where you guys at? --- http://dracanea.net <cite>LostForest posted [p:937791357] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Bump. I know people on CE are watching it. Where you guys at? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metallic Slug13 04/21/20 12:47:42 AM #3:	Kim breaking bad is the big moment here. The Mexico scenes were super intense so I'll forgive them for extending the final Lalo/Nacho confrontation for a bit. --- ref is was a less bad sack <cite>Metallic Slug13 posted [p:937791820] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Kim breaking bad is the big moment here. The Mexico scenes were super intense so I'll forgive them for extending the final Lalo/Nacho confrontation for a bit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LostForest 04/21/20 12:49:20 AM #4:	It's frustrating knowing we probably won't get to find out what happens until 2022 :\| --- http://dracanea.net <cite>LostForest posted [p:937791876] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>It's frustrating knowing we probably won't get to find out what happens until 2022 :\| </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 04/21/20 12:57:11 AM #5:	Nacho vs Lalo is how the story will end. That was determined when they pitched the show --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:937792144] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Nacho vs Lalo is how the story will end. That was determined when they pitched the show </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 04/21/20 1:00:54 AM #6:	That was so intense. Kim has changed, completely. I feel she's the one who might ruin it all for them. Lalo is a badass, but now he has nothing to lose. Nacho is a dead man walking. Anyone else think Howard might try and offer Kim a job? So annoyed we have to wait 2 years again. BCS is probably the best show on TV. --- I want you to grab your nuts. Grab your balls. I want you to take a handful, and just grab your nuts real quick. Swivel 'em around in a circular motion. -LTG <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:937792256] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>That was so intense. Kim has changed, completely. I feel she's the one who might ruin it all for them. Lalo is a badass, but now he has nothing to lose. Nacho is a dead man walking. Anyone else think Howard might try and offer Kim a job? So annoyed we have to wait 2 years again. BCS is probably the best show on TV. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MorganTJ 04/21/20 3:17:12 AM #7:	Those hitmen were super incompetent though. <cite>MorganTJ posted [p:937796599] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Those hitmen were super incompetent though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LostForest 04/21/20 10:24:46 AM #8:	DarkChozoGhost posted... Nacho vs Lalo is how the story will end. That was determined when they pitched the show Oh wow, I never knew this. When did they say that? --- http://dracanea.net <cite>LostForest posted [p:937808524] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>DarkChozoGhost posted... </cite> <quote>Nacho vs Lalo is how the story will end. That was determined when they pitched the show</quote> Oh wow, I never knew this. When did they say that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 04/21/20 10:32:33 AM #9:	I think this show is the best show on television, so I do feel a bit bad saying I too was let down. Not because it didn't have whoamgoshburgers moments, but because the writing didn't feel as sharp. Like really gus, you had free reign to take out lalo in whatever way you saw fit and you bring out the b-team of randos. I said this else where but Mike with a sniper rifle in a hot air balloon would've had like a way better chance, this is too sloppy for gus and too overconfident for mike. I posted loads of other comments elsewhere I'll migrate some of them here. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:937808888] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>I think this show is the best show on television, so I do feel a bit bad saying I too was let down. Not because it didn't have whoamgoshburgers moments, but because the writing didn't feel as sharp. Like really gus, you had free reign to take out lalo in whatever way you saw fit and you bring out the b-team of randos. I said this else where but Mike with a sniper rifle in a hot air balloon would've had like a way better chance, this is too sloppy for gus and too overconfident for mike. I posted loads of other comments elsewhere I'll migrate some of them here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LostForest 04/21/20 10:38:13 AM #10:	Honestly, the only reason I felt unsatisfied was because I was expecting at least one of the major plot points to be wrapped up by the end of this season. Either Kim and Jimmy part ways, or Nacho and Lalo's conflict is resolved. Having them both get dragged out to the final season felt unnecessary to me. Makes me feel like it's gonna be a really crowded 10 episodes next time. At the very least I was really hoping Jimmy would once and for all be introduced to Gus, since that would've been a good set up for the final season. --- http://dracanea.net <cite>LostForest posted [p:937809145] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, the only reason I felt unsatisfied was because I was expecting at least one of the major plot points to be wrapped up by the end of this season. Either Kim and Jimmy part ways, or Nacho and Lalo's conflict is resolved. Having them both get dragged out to the final season felt unnecessary to me. Makes me feel like it's gonna be a really crowded 10 episodes next time. At the very least I was really hoping Jimmy would once and for all be introduced to Gus, since that would've been a good set up for the final season. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 04/21/20 10:47:06 AM #11:	I think you might feel unsatisfied only because it was the final episode of the season. Not because of the actual content of this last episode. Was it super over the top with intensity the whole time? No. But it sets up a SUPER crazy last season. I can tell Vince didnt want to end this season full on Breaking Bad style. Its still a different show than BB. Dont forget the first few season finales of this show, they were about as on par with this current finale. Theres not gonna be tons of explosions and 50 minutes of intense scenes. BCS is a slow burn all the way through, with explosions and bumps along the way that change the course of the character arcs. Kims decision to break bad is whats big about this episode. Im really thinking this show is gonna go complete heartbreak this last season. Kim and Saul are gonna try and ruin Hamlin, and itll backfire. Either Kim will lose her license/blame Jimmy and leave him, shell get killed, or Lalo will track Kim and Saul back down, forcing her to go into hiding. Bob Odenkirk has already said that the last season of BCS will show what happens to Saul AFTER the Breaking Bad story. what if...Kim goes into hiding with the vacuum guy, and the whole flash forwards with Jimmy working at the mall are leading up to him finding new identity Kim? That would be the perfect ending IMO. Neither die, but both have to fully change their characters in order to be reunited again. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:937809539] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>I think you might feel unsatisfied only because it was the final episode of the season. Not because of the actual content of this last episode. Was it super over the top with intensity the whole time? No. But it sets up a SUPER crazy last season. I can tell Vince didnt want to end this season full on Breaking Bad style. Its still a different show than BB. Dont forget the first few season finales of this show, they were about as on par with this current finale. Theres not gonna be tons of explosions and 50 minutes of intense scenes. BCS is a slow burn all the way through, with explosions and bumps along the way that change the course of the character arcs. Kims decision to break bad is whats big about this episode. Im really thinking this show is gonna go complete heartbreak this last season. Kim and Saul are gonna try and ruin Hamlin, and itll backfire. Either Kim will lose her license/blame Jimmy and leave him, shell get killed, or Lalo will track Kim and Saul back down, forcing her to go into hiding. Bob Odenkirk has already said that the last season of BCS will show what happens to Saul AFTER the Breaking Bad story. what if...Kim goes into hiding with the vacuum guy, and the whole flash forwards with Jimmy working at the mall are leading up to him finding new identity Kim? That would be the perfect ending IMO. Neither die, but both have to fully change their characters in order to be reunited again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GameGodOfAll 04/21/20 10:49:47 AM #12:	It just didn't feel like a season finale. Would have been a good regular episode, but was lacking that big finale punch. Especially compared to the last 2 seasons finales. Also I like Lalo, Nacho, Mike, Gus, etc. but this is the Jimmy and Kim show for me. I'm way more invested in their relationship and Kim's corruption than a cartel shoot out. I'm sure the two threads will cross again next season, but Lalo being all pissed off and out for blood doesn't do it for me as a send off. --- My Words Were True And Sheamus Made You Believe! https://imgur.com/Fc39f <cite>GameGodOfAll posted [p:937809662] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>It just didn't feel like a season finale. Would have been a good regular episode, but was lacking that big finale punch. Especially compared to the last 2 seasons finales. Also I like Lalo, Nacho, Mike, Gus, etc. but this is the Jimmy and Kim show for me. I'm way more invested in their relationship and Kim's corruption than a cartel shoot out. I'm sure the two threads will cross again next season, but Lalo being all pissed off and out for blood doesn't do it for me as a send off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/21/20 11:45:35 AM #14:	I was really disappointed. Nothing happened and I don't understand why the show thinks we're mad at Howard. Or why tanking Howards life is acceptable but making 1 old dying lady unpopular was not. As someone else said the writing took a nosedive this season --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:937812589] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>I was really disappointed. Nothing happened and I don't understand why the show thinks we're mad at Howard. Or why tanking Howards life is acceptable but making 1 old dying lady unpopular was not. As someone else said the writing took a nosedive this season</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 04/21/20 11:47:14 AM #15:	Mr Hangman posted... You guys are nuts, it was a good episode. The reason the show is great is because it takes its time. You want to rush the conclusion of plotlines, go watch the end of Game of Thrones. Agreed. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:937812678] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Mr Hangman posted... </cite> <quote>You guys are nuts, it was a good episode. The reason the show is great is because it takes its time. You want to rush the conclusion of plotlines, go watch the end of Game of Thrones.</quote> Agreed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/21/20 11:54:01 AM #17:	Mr Hangman posted... The show doesn't think you're mad at Howard. Howard is actually fine, he's a good guy. But Jimmy and Kimmy still don't like him. That's the point, that they're "on a bad road". So the season finale is 2 guys plot to ruin a good guy's pencil pushing career for a lark Riveting television. The Kettlemen's seem like the Moonlanding compared to that, let alone the Chuck/Germans stuff. Let alone Breaking Bad. It was disappointing. The whole season was. Lalo and Nacho saved it from being a wash. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:937813033] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Mr Hangman posted...</cite> <quote>The show doesn't think you're mad at Howard. Howard is actually fine, he's a good guy. But Jimmy and Kimmy still don't like him. That's the point, that they're "on a bad road". </quote> So the season finale is 2 guys plot to ruin a good guy's pencil pushing career for a lark Riveting television. The Kettlemen's seem like the Moonlanding compared to that, let alone the Chuck/Germans stuff. Let alone Breaking Bad. It was disappointing. The whole season was. Lalo and Nacho saved it from being a wash.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 04/21/20 11:58:32 AM #18:	UnfairRepresent posted... So the season finale is 2 guys plot to ruin a good guy's pencil pushing career for a lark Riveting television. The Kettlemen's seem like the Moonlanding compared to that, let alone the Chuck/Germans stuff. Let alone Breaking Bad. It was disappointing. The whole season was. Lalo and Nacho saved it from being a wash. If you dont like the show, stop watching and posting in every single topic about it. Its like youre watching it just so you can complain online about it. Dont like it? Then stop watching and just shut up. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:937813286] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>So the season finale is 2 guys plot to ruin a good guy's pencil pushing career for a lark Riveting television. The Kettlemen's seem like the Moonlanding compared to that, let alone the Chuck/Germans stuff. Let alone Breaking Bad. It was disappointing. The whole season was. Lalo and Nacho saved it from being a wash.</quote> If you dont like the show, stop watching and posting in every single topic about it. Its like youre watching it just so you can complain online about it. Dont like it? Then stop watching and just shut up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Stewman_Magoo 04/21/20 12:01:21 PM #20:	MorganTJ posted... Those hitmen were super incompetent though. Seriously. Lalo blasted the one guy spotting the tunnel away with what looked like a high caliber pistol and the others heard it and DIDN'T turn around? A little hard to believe, but Lalo is cartoonish levels of evil and can pull off anything so whatever I guess. --- PSN Stewman_Magoo <cite>Stewman_Magoo posted [p:937813420] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>MorganTJ posted... </cite> <quote>Those hitmen were super incompetent though.</quote> Seriously. Lalo blasted the one guy spotting the tunnel away with what looked like a high caliber pistol and the others heard it and DIDN'T turn around? A little hard to believe, but Lalo is cartoonish levels of evil and can pull off anything so whatever I guess. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/21/20 12:04:16 PM #21:	Mr Hangman posted... They're plotting to ruin their former boss's law career (he's the owner of the firm!) so they can make some quick cash Ah well excuse me while I go polish the edge of my seat for 2 years. Stewman_Magoo posted... Seriously. Lalo blasted the one guy spotting the tunnel away with what looked like a high caliber pistol and the others heard it and DIDN'T turn around? A little hard to believe, but Lalo is cartoonish levels of evil and can pull off anything so whatever I guess. Yeah that was weird. The show demonstrated that they heard it, then just kept crawling forward slowly? Wut? Where these guys the Mexican answer to Skinny Pete, Combo and Badger? Did they get paid in Star Trek DVDs? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:937813576] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Mr Hangman posted...</cite> <quote>They're plotting to ruin their former boss's law career (he's the owner of the firm!) so they can make some quick cash</quote> Ah well excuse me while I go polish the edge of my seat for 2 years. Stewman_Magoo posted...</cite> <quote> Seriously. Lalo blasted the one guy spotting the tunnel away with what looked like a high caliber pistol and the others heard it and DIDN'T turn around? A little hard to believe, but Lalo is cartoonish levels of evil and can pull off anything so whatever I guess. </quote> Yeah that was weird. The show demonstrated that they heard it, then just kept crawling forward slowly? Wut? Where these guys the Mexican answer to Skinny Pete, Combo and Badger? Did they get paid in Star Trek DVDs?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wildspark 04/21/20 12:09:10 PM #23:	Mr Hangman posted... That is such disingenuous framing. They're plotting to ruin their former boss's law career (he's the owner of the firm!) so they can make some quick cash. And like Breaking Bad, this is two once upstanding people (lawyers!) breaking bad. Like Walter did, they're taking major risks and not because they need the reward, but because they're being corrupted by a pathological addition to breaking the rules and being good at it. I agree with this except Jimmy was never an upstanding person --- I did not hit her! Its not true! Its BS! I did not hit her! I did not! Oh hi, Mark. <cite>Wildspark posted [p:937813848] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Mr Hangman posted... </cite> <quote>That is such disingenuous framing. They're plotting to ruin their former boss's law career (he's the owner of the firm!) so they can make some quick cash. And like Breaking Bad, this is two once upstanding people (lawyers!) breaking bad. Like Walter did, they're taking major risks and not because they need the reward, but because they're being corrupted by a pathological addition to breaking the rules and being good at it.</quote>I agree with this except Jimmy was never an upstanding person </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/21/20 12:09:50 PM #24:	Mr Hangman posted... Did you forget what happened between Chuck and Jimmy? Jimmy sabotaged HHM to benefit Kim's case. He sort of got caught and had his law license suspended. Now Kim wants to sabotage HHM for the benefit of Jimmy's case. It's a recipe for disaster and it's going to be great to watch. If you say so Season 1 - 4 was great to watch The quality dropped here for 5. I'm not really excited about 6 anymore, they've lost their touch. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:937813878] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Mr Hangman posted...</cite> <quote>Did you forget what happened between Chuck and Jimmy? Jimmy sabotaged HHM to benefit Kim's case. He sort of got caught and had his law license suspended. Now Kim wants to sabotage HHM for the benefit of Jimmy's case. It's a recipe for disaster and it's going to be great to watch.</quote> If you say so Season 1 - 4 was great to watch The quality dropped here for 5. I'm not really excited about 6 anymore, they've lost their touch.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YookaLaylee 04/21/20 12:13:17 PM #25:	UnfairRepresent posted... If you say so Season 1 - 4 was great to watch The quality dropped here for 5. I'm not really excited about 6 anymore, they've lost their touch. I think season 5 has been one of the best seasons yet. Season 4 is the only one that I didn't like that much --- I'm the fly in the ointment, the spanner in the works. I'm unpredictable. I'm the X-Factor. - Jamie Madrox <cite>YookaLaylee posted [p:937814042] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>If you say so Season 1 - 4 was great to watch The quality dropped here for 5. I'm not really excited about 6 anymore, they've lost their touch.</quote>I think season 5 has been one of the best seasons yet. Season 4 is the only one that I didn't like that much </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/21/20 12:15:21 PM #27:	Mr Hangman posted... Between Chuck getting him is job at HHM and when he quit HHM he was clean. Nah he was still a liar Might have stayed that way too if Chuck hadn't blocked his opportunity to advance. I don't think so. The show has made it clear Jimmy is a pathological liar, conman and a bad person. Chuck's blessing and a position as a lawyer in HHM wouldn't have changed that. Sooner or later he would be setting cars on fire for some elaborate reason. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:937814166] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Mr Hangman posted...</cite> <quote> Between Chuck getting him is job at HHM and when he quit HHM he was clean. </quote> Nah he was still a liar <quote>Might have stayed that way too if Chuck hadn't blocked his opportunity to advance. </quote> I don't think so. The show has made it clear Jimmy is a pathological liar, conman and a bad person. Chuck's blessing and a position as a lawyer in HHM wouldn't have changed that. Sooner or later he would be setting cars on fire for some elaborate reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MFBKBass5 04/21/20 12:19:20 PM #29:	Lol @UnfairRepresent Why are you ignoring my post? Because youre embarrassed I called you out huh? You come into these BCS topics just to complain and its getting old. We get it. You don't like the show. Why do you waste the time to write about it and watch it then? I guess your life is just that sad where you crave any attention you can get. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:937814406] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Lol @UnfairRepresent Why are you ignoring my post? Because youre embarrassed I called you out huh? You come into these BCS topics just to complain and its getting old. We get it. You don't like the show. Why do you waste the time to write about it and watch it then? I guess your life is just that sad where you crave any attention you can get. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GameGodOfAll 04/21/20 12:19:36 PM #30:	UnfairRepresent posted... Nothing happened and I don't understand why the show thinks we're mad at Howard. Or why tanking Howards life is acceptable but making 1 old dying lady unpopular was not. IDK where you're getting that from. Jimmy and Kim might be shitting on Howard hard, but the show's presenting him in the right like it should be. He even got the last word with Kim and it was the sickest line of the episode. --- My Words Were True And Sheamus Made You Believe! https://imgur.com/Fc39f <cite>GameGodOfAll posted [p:937814419] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Nothing happened and I don't understand why the show thinks we're mad at Howard. Or why tanking Howards life is acceptable but making 1 old dying lady unpopular was not.</quote>IDK where you're getting that from. Jimmy and Kim might be shitting on Howard hard, but the show's presenting him in the right like it should be. He even got the last word with Kim and it was the sickest line of the episode. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/21/20 12:23:29 PM #31:	Mr Hangman posted... Chuck's respect might have changed that. Jimmy cared about that and worked hard for it, for a time. It really messed him up to find out that Chuck was against him. Jimmy had Chuck's respect and still was a pathalogical liar. Jimmy had Kim's respect and still was a pathalogical liar. Jimmy had his parents respect and still was a pathalogical liar. Nothing would have changed. They demonstrate this in almost every episode of BB and BCS. Jimmy can't not lie and con people. He literally can't operate in situations where everything is going well and on the level. MFBKBass5 posted... Lol @UnfairRepresent Why are you ignoring my post? Because youre embarrassed I called you out huh? wat You come into these BCS topics just to complain and its getting old. We get it. You don't like the show. Why do you waste the time to write about it and watch it then? I love the show. Season 1 - 4 weregreat Season 5 was meh with Nacho and Lalo pulling it up to Good. It's just a shame that the writing took such a nose dive and the past few episodes were so disappointing. If you don't want to hear people talking about the show and consider it wasted time then leave the topics --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:937814646] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Mr Hangman posted...</cite> <quote>Chuck's respect might have changed that. Jimmy cared about that and worked hard for it, for a time. It really messed him up to find out that Chuck was against him. </quote> Jimmy had Chuck's respect and still was a pathalogical liar. Jimmy had Kim's respect and still was a pathalogical liar. Jimmy had his parents respect and still was a pathalogical liar. Nothing would have changed. They demonstrate this in almost every episode of BB and BCS. Jimmy can't not lie and con people. He literally can't operate in situations where everything is going well and on the level. MFBKBass5 posted...</cite> <quote>Lol @UnfairRepresent Why are you ignoring my post? Because youre embarrassed I called you out huh?</quote> wat <quote>You come into these BCS topics just to complain and its getting old. We get it. You don't like the show. Why do you waste the time to write about it and watch it then?</quote> I love the show. Season 1 - 4 weregreat Season 5 was meh with Nacho and Lalo pulling it up to Good. It's just a shame that the writing took such a nose dive and the past few episodes were so disappointing. If you don't want to hear people talking about the show and consider it wasted time then leave the topics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/21/20 12:28:30 PM #33:	Mr Hangman posted... I don't agree with that interpretation at all. He had an opportunity to actually change, but then the person that mattered most to him didn't support him. Bullshit he didn't support him, he pulled him out of prison, got him a stable job and a home and food. Gave him love and responsibility. Jimmy turned round and lied/conned people. There's absolutely nothing to suggest someone would magically stop being a patholigical liar and conman the second they got hired at a lawfirm. Hell even with no other context whatsoever that sentence alone is ironclad. And now the person that matters most to him is enabling him. I think you got that the wrong way round. Jimmy tarnished Kim. As he tarnishes everyone. As Chuck warned her he would. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:937814911] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Mr Hangman posted...</cite> <quote>I don't agree with that interpretation at all. He had an opportunity to actually change, but then the person that mattered most to him didn't support him.</quote> Bullshit he didn't support him, he pulled him out of prison, got him a stable job and a home and food. Gave him love and responsibility. Jimmy turned round and lied/conned people. There's absolutely nothing to suggest someone would magically stop being a patholigical liar and conman the second they got hired at a lawfirm. Hell even with no other context whatsoever that sentence alone is ironclad. <quote> And now the person that matters most to him is enabling him. </quote> I think you got that the wrong way round. Jimmy tarnished Kim. As he tarnishes everyone. As Chuck warned her he would.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/21/20 12:40:25 PM #35:	Mr Hangman posted... Right... and he secretly maneuvered to make sure he would never get a promotion. No he didn't. He maneuvered (Unknown to jimmy) that he couldn't be hired at HMM because he was a conman and liar. Jimmy didn't even know Chuck did that and proceeded to lie and con people. Jimmy could have easily been "promoted" Chuck would not have cared if Jimmy went off and built a successful real estate company. He would have helped Jimmy do it. But Jimmy just wanted to lie and con people and Chuck knew it. Take away the fact the Camera is behind Jimmy and you wouldn't be defending him on this or that Chuck wasn't supportive Chuck wasn't perfect but he went above and beyond for Jimmy and Jimmy fucked that over anyway --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:937815611] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Mr Hangman posted...</cite> <quote>Right... and he secretly maneuvered to make sure he would never get a promotion.</quote> No he didn't. He maneuvered (Unknown to jimmy) that he couldn't be hired at HMM because he was a conman and liar. Jimmy didn't even know Chuck did that and proceeded to lie and con people. Jimmy could have easily been "promoted" Chuck would not have cared if Jimmy went off and built a successful real estate company. He would have helped Jimmy do it. But Jimmy just wanted to lie and con people and Chuck knew it. Take away the fact the Camera is behind Jimmy and you wouldn't be defending him on this or that Chuck wasn't supportive Chuck wasn't perfect but he went above and beyond for Jimmy and Jimmy fucked that over anyway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pseudomenon 04/21/20 12:41:38 PM #36:	The show is basically a delicate game of edging. --- https://imgur.com/ZzqY3ze <cite>Pseudomenon posted [p:937815685] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>The show is basically a delicate game of edging. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 04/21/20 12:42:26 PM #37:	Why does every BCS topic end up with people feeding UR? Goddamn. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:937815734] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Why does every BCS topic end up with people feeding UR? Goddamn. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 04/21/20 1:06:58 PM #38:	Southernfatman posted... Why does every BCS topic end up with people feeding UR? Goddamn. Its just bewildering how awful his opinions are. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:937817063] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted... </cite> <quote>Why does every BCS topic end up with people feeding UR? Goddamn.</quote> Its just bewildering how awful his opinions are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/21/20 1:11:49 PM #39:	How dare I think differently to you and back up thoughts with logic --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:937817339] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>How dare I think differently to you and back up thoughts with logic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ultima Dragon 04/21/20 1:26:08 PM #40:	It wasn't bad, but it felt more like the episode before the finale than the finale itself. I found it hella stupid how incompetent those "assassins" were. Gus was like "I've got my best men on this." Uh-huh. One guy got taken out with hot oil and a frying pan while the other one spent a solid minute shooting the shit out of nothing instead of aggressively pursuing the (then) unarmed Lalo. Then when two of them decided to climb into the tunnel instead of one looking for him outside or guarding the exit (although I guess he couldn't have known offhand where it was). It was like babby's first break-in and gunfight for all those guys. Would have expected more from Gus' men but I guess the story has to roll forward somehow. --- "We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz <cite>Ultima Dragon posted [p:937818120] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>It wasn't bad, but it felt more like the episode before the finale than the finale itself. I found it hella stupid how incompetent those "assassins" were. Gus was like "I've got my best men on this." Uh-huh. One guy got taken out with hot oil and a frying pan while the other one spent a solid minute shooting the shit out of nothing instead of aggressively pursuing the (then) unarmed Lalo. Then when two of them decided to climb into the tunnel instead of one looking for him outside or guarding the exit (although I guess he couldn't have known offhand where it was). It was like babby's first break-in and gunfight for all those guys. Would have expected more from Gus' men but I guess the story has to roll forward somehow. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 04/21/20 1:31:47 PM #41:	UnfairRepresent posted... How dare I think differently to you and back up thoughts with logic Theres no logic or actual thought process from your posts though. I dont even bother engaging because all you do is complain about stupid shit that actually doesnt even matter. Again. If you dont like the show dont watch. Its that simple. --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:937818463] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>How dare I think differently to you and back up thoughts with logic</quote> Theres no logic or actual thought process from your posts though. I dont even bother engaging because all you do is complain about stupid shit that actually doesnt even matter. Again. If you dont like the show dont watch. Its that simple. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/21/20 1:37:46 PM #42:	MFBKBass5 posted... Theres no logic or actual thought process from your posts though. Because I disagree right. I mean you can't actually point out anything wrong, all you can do is squeal insults. I dont even bother engaging You're engaging right now, you're just throwing insults at anyone who disagrees with you instead of saying anything constructional. MFBKBass5 posted... Again. If you dont like the show dont watch. I do like the show If you don't like people talking about the show, don't enter topics about it on message boards randomly screaming lying and insulting people for talking about the show. You don't have to go full fanboy and meltdown anytime someone doesn't praise your favorite show kid. Ultima Dragon posted... It wasn't bad, but it felt more like the episode before the finale than the finale itself. I found it hella stupid how incompetent those "assassins" were. Gus was like "I've got my best men on this." Uh-huh. One guy got taken out with hot oil and a frying pan while the other one spent a solid minute shooting the shit out of nothing instead of aggressively pursuing the (then) unarmed Lalo. Then when two of them decided to climb into the tunnel instead of one looking for him outside or guarding the exit (although I guess he couldn't have known offhand where it was). It was like babby's first break-in and gunfight for all those guys. Would have expected more from Gus' men but I guess the story has to roll forward somehow. I honestly thought it was going to be a trick. That Lalo got someone to send Nacho the message and him opening the gate was going to be proof of his treason. But no, Gus legit sent the Mexican Skinny Pete squad to take him out lol. And the plan hinged on Nacho opening a gate from an obscure phone call where any number of things could have gone wrong. Nacho getting no signal, him being moved else where, Lalo leaving or being by the gate (oh my) It played out like a comedy scene. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:937818813] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>MFBKBass5 posted...</cite> <quote> Theres no logic or actual thought process from your posts though.</quote> Because I disagree right. I mean you can't actually point out anything wrong, all you can do is squeal insults. <quote> I dont even bother engaging</quote> You're engaging right now, you're just throwing insults at anyone who disagrees with you instead of saying anything constructional. MFBKBass5 posted...</cite> <quote> Again. If you dont like the show dont watch.</quote> I do like the show If you don't like people talking about the show, don't enter topics about it on message boards randomly screaming lying and insulting people for talking about the show. You don't have to go full fanboy and meltdown anytime someone doesn't praise your favorite show kid. Ultima Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>It wasn't bad, but it felt more like the episode before the finale than the finale itself. I found it hella stupid how incompetent those "assassins" were. Gus was like "I've got my best men on this." Uh-huh. One guy got taken out with hot oil and a frying pan while the other one spent a solid minute shooting the shit out of nothing instead of aggressively pursuing the (then) unarmed Lalo. Then when two of them decided to climb into the tunnel instead of one looking for him outside or guarding the exit (although I guess he couldn't have known offhand where it was). It was like babby's first break-in and gunfight for all those guys. Would have expected more from Gus' men but I guess the story has to roll forward somehow. </quote> I honestly thought it was going to be a trick. That Lalo got someone to send Nacho the message and him opening the gate was going to be proof of his treason. But no, Gus legit sent the Mexican Skinny Pete squad to take him out lol. And the plan hinged on Nacho opening a gate from an obscure phone call where any number of things could have gone wrong. Nacho getting no signal, him being moved else where, Lalo leaving or being by the gate (oh my) It played out like a comedy scene.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 04/21/20 1:49:40 PM #43:	But you dont like the show. All you do is complain about it. I dont even read your posts. I just like watching you waste time arguing with yourself. It makes me laugh a lot. Because youre trying so hard to shit on a show you dont like yet you watch every week lololol --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:937819570] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>But you dont like the show. All you do is complain about it. I dont even read your posts. I just like watching you waste time arguing with yourself. It makes me laugh a lot. Because youre trying so hard to shit on a show you dont like yet you watch every week lololol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/21/20 1:53:10 PM #44:	MFBKBass5 posted... But you dont like the show I dont even read your posts LOL Sums it up "I don't read a word you ever say but I know you hate the show so I am going to insult you over and over and over!" ~ A grown adult man claiming not to be a fanboy --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:937819803] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>MFBKBass5 posted...</cite> <quote>But you dont like the show I dont even read your posts</quote> LOL Sums it up "I don't read a word you ever say but I know you hate the show so I am going to insult you over and over and over!" ~ A grown adult man claiming not to be a fanboy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LostForest 04/21/20 2:56:51 PM #45:	GameGodOfAll posted... He even got the last word with Kim and it was the sickest line of the episode. This x1000. I feel so bad for Howard lol. But that was a good line. "You know who did know Jimmy? Chuck." Like, fffffuuuuu that was nice. Though admittedly, I'm not as amped up about Kim turning evil as everyone else is. It was pretty obviously coming. They keep portraying her as having this inner conflict of good VS bad, and her turning to the dark side was the only realistic turnout, since playing it all up just for her to choose the good side and leave the show isn't exactly Gilligan's style. TBQH the way I envision the final season playing out now is that Kim and Jimmy will go full on scheme-duo. Kim will get sloppy or mess up somewhere, and she'll be the one that loses her license or whatever. She'll go to jail or something, and get released just in time for Gene Takovic to meet up with her in the future and they live happily ever after. --- http://dracanea.net <cite>LostForest posted [p:937823489] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>GameGodOfAll posted... </cite> <quote>He even got the last word with Kim and it was the sickest line of the episode.</quote> This x1000. I feel so bad for Howard lol. But that was a good line. "You know who did know Jimmy? Chuck." Like, fffffuuuuu that was nice. Though admittedly, I'm not as amped up about Kim turning evil as everyone else is. It was pretty obviously coming. They keep portraying her as having this inner conflict of good VS bad, and her turning to the dark side was the only realistic turnout, since playing it all up just for her to choose the good side and leave the show isn't exactly Gilligan's style. TBQH the way I envision the final season playing out now is that Kim and Jimmy will go full on scheme-duo. Kim will get sloppy or mess up somewhere, and she'll be the one that loses her license or whatever. She'll go to jail or something, and get released just in time for Gene Takovic to meet up with her in the future and they live happily ever after. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 04/22/20 12:38:12 AM #46:	Mr Hangman posted... You guys are nuts, it was a good episode. The reason the show is great is because it takes its time. You want to rush the conclusion of plotlines, go watch the end of Game of Thrones. Dude, I love the show, I love that it takes it's time, but it's just got one more season. It's a 6.3 season prequel and post-quel to breaking bad and in it's first 5 seasons it has gone from 2002 to 2004, breaking bad starts in 2008. If they had 20 years of the show sure, but they don't and so season 5 was kinda the season to move some things forward. Assuming it even catches up to breaking bad, the final season is either going to have a big as fuck time jump which kinda ruins the relationship and familiarity we have with the characters or cover twice as much time in the last season as the previous 5 seasons combined. And that's ignoring any time we have with Gene. What i expected Season 1: 2002-2003 Season 2: 2004-2005 Season 3: 2005-2006 Season 4: 2007-2008 Season 5: 2008-2009 (Parts of BB from Saul's POV or at least 1 episode like this) Season 6: Post Breaking Bad What we got: Season 1: May 2002-July 2002 Season 2: July 2002-September 2002 Season 3: September 2002-March 2003 Season 4: March 2003-April 2004 Season 5: April-June 2004 Honestly if the show runners just said "guys we fucked up in planning a bit, Add 3-4 years to every date that's appearing in the pre-BB timeline" and then digitally made that change I'd be a lot less worried. Aside from the year it feels very much like we are building up to the big "It wasn't me it was Ignacio!" moment. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:937855430] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Mr Hangman posted... </cite> <quote>You guys are nuts, it was a good episode. The reason the show is great is because it takes its time. You want to rush the conclusion of plotlines, go watch the end of Game of Thrones.</quote> Dude, I love the show, I love that it takes it's time, but it's just got one more season. It's a 6.3 season prequel and post-quel to breaking bad and in it's first 5 seasons it has gone from 2002 to 2004, breaking bad starts in 2008. If they had 20 years of the show sure, but they don't and so season 5 was kinda the season to move some things forward. Assuming it even catches up to breaking bad, the final season is either going to have a big as fuck time jump which kinda ruins the relationship and familiarity we have with the characters or cover twice as much time in the last season as the previous 5 seasons combined. And that's ignoring any time we have with Gene. What i expected Season 1: 2002-2003 Season 2: 2004-2005 Season 3: 2005-2006 Season 4: 2007-2008 Season 5: 2008-2009 (Parts of BB from Saul's POV or at least 1 episode like this) Season 6: Post Breaking Bad What we got: Season 1: May 2002-July 2002 Season 2: July 2002-September 2002 Season 3: September 2002-March 2003 Season 4: March 2003-April 2004 Season 5: April-June 2004 Honestly if the show runners just said "guys we fucked up in planning a bit, Add 3-4 years to every date that's appearing in the pre-BB timeline" and then digitally made that change I'd be a lot less worried. Aside from the year it feels very much like we are building up to the big "It wasn't me it was Ignacio!" moment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 04/22/20 12:53:31 AM #47:	Why do you think the show needs to come right up against the beginning of BB? It can end with a couple year long gap --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:937856032] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>Why do you think the show needs to come right up against the beginning of BB? It can end with a couple year long gap </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 04/22/20 2:45:39 AM #48:	DarkChozoGhost posted... Why do you think the show needs to come right up against the beginning of BB? It end with a couple year long gap It would be a bit of a tease to never have a moment of gus going "I've discovered a new type of meth has been circulating... it's blue" and lots of other fun moments that could come up with the BCS crew slowly becoming wise to Walt. Even putting that missed opportunity aside. In Breaking Bad when Walt/Jesse abduct him he specifically says: "It wasn't me, it was Ignacio... Wait, Lalo didn't send you" So either The show leads up pretty close to breaking bad or Saul has to help Igancio against Lalo, and has no idea the outcome of the plan, so he lives in fear for years thinking one day it will catch up with him. But that seems less likely. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:937859433] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>DarkChozoGhost posted... </cite> <quote>Why do you think the show needs to come right up against the beginning of BB? It end with a couple year long gap</quote> It would be a bit of a tease to never have a moment of gus going "I've discovered a new type of meth has been circulating... it's blue" and lots of other fun moments that could come up with the BCS crew slowly becoming wise to Walt. Even putting that missed opportunity aside. In Breaking Bad when Walt/Jesse abduct him he specifically says: "It wasn't me, it was Ignacio... Wait, Lalo didn't send you" So either The show leads up pretty close to breaking bad orSaul has to help Igancio against Lalo, and has no idea the outcome of the plan, so he lives in fear for years thinking one day it will catch up with him. But that seems less likely.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/22/20 1:42:12 PM #49:	joe40001 posted... It would be a bit of a tease to never have a moment of gus going "I've discovered a new type of meth has been circulating... it's blue" and lots of other fun moments that could come up with the BCS crew slowly becoming wise to Walt. Even putting that missed opportunity aside. In Breaking Bad when Walt/Jesse abduct him he specifically says: "It wasn't me, it was Ignacio... Wait, Lalo didn't send you" So either 1. The show leads up pretty close to breaking bad or 2. Saul has to help Igancio against Lalo, and has no idea the outcome of the plan, so he lives in fear for years thinking one day it will catch up with him. But that seems less likely. Eh I don't think the show needs that . I agree that it should have longer time gaps but "Hey Mike check out dis blue meth!" just feels like fan service rather than plot relevant I remember hearing that in the original script, Marie was the x-ray technician when Chuck got scanned as a cameo And they wrote that part out because it was a needless distracting Easter Egg that took away from the drama rather than adding to it I feel like going all the way into BB and showing characters reacting/referencing stuff would be the same. Even Hank and Gomez in this season felt awkward and dumb --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:937881420] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted...</cite> <quote> It would be a bit of a tease to never have a moment of gus going "I've discovered a new type of meth has been circulating... it's blue" and lots of other fun moments that could come up with the BCS crew slowly becoming wise to Walt. Even putting that missed opportunity aside. In Breaking Bad when Walt/Jesse abduct him he specifically says: "It wasn't me, it was Ignacio... Wait, Lalo didn't send you" So either 1. The show leads up pretty close to breaking bad or 2. Saul has to help Igancio against Lalo, and has no idea the outcome of the plan, so he lives in fear for years thinking one day it will catch up with him. But that seems less likely. </quote> Eh I don't think the show needs that . I agree that it should have longer time gaps but "Hey Mike check out dis blue meth!" just feels like fan service rather than plot relevant I remember hearing that in the original script, Marie was the x-ray technician when Chuck got scanned as a cameo And they wrote that part out because it was a needless distracting Easter Egg that took away from the drama rather than adding to it I feel like going all the way into BB and showing characters reacting/referencing stuff would be the same. Even Hank and Gomez in this season felt awkward and dumb</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LostForest 04/22/20 1:48:57 PM #50:	I dunno, I don't see a problem with doing fanservice. If you're not gonna do some nice world building, what's the point of making a prequel, or any entry in the same canon of a given media? If you're not that into expanding a given franchise, you're better off making something new IMO. --- http://dracanea.net <cite>LostForest posted [p:937881760] in Better Cal... [t:78607515]...</cite> <quote>I dunno, I don't see a problem with doing fanservice. If you're not gonna do some nice world building, what's the point of making a prequel, or any entry in the same canon of a given media? If you're not that into expanding a given franchise, you're better off making something new IMO. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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