Current Events > COVID mortality seems inflated due to underreporting infected

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https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-17/coronavirus-antibodies-study-santa-clara-county

50 to 80 times as many cases. Did Italy even bother with testing? If 80% of people have this now and mortality numbers are fairly accurate, this disease is about as deadly as the common cold.

I guess history will be the judge

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"Based on their results, the Stanford researchers estimated the mortality rate in Santa Clara County to be between 0.12% and 0.2%. By comparison, the average death rate of the seasonal flu is 0.1%."

It's from double to twelve times the flu in your own source.

i been saying the numbers were probably 2-3 times higher than reported because of asymptomatic people. but 50+ times is pretty crazy numbers.

as for the numbers i see a lot of evidence saying the deaths are padded for funding. so that mixed with how many people have it and have no symptoms probably puts the death rate at under 1%

even with the numbers now it's 170k died from covid-19 and 147k have died from the seasonal flu just this year. so it's not really that much more deadly than that and that's something we have a shot for.

ButteryMales posted...

"Based on their results, the Stanford researchers estimated the mortality rate in Santa Clara County to be between 0.12% and 0.2%. By comparison, the average death rate of the seasonal flu is 0.1%."

It's from double to twelve times the flu in your own source.

Do you really think that 0.12 is 12x 0.1?

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So, IF, this is true, would that mean all the people saying it's just the flu were unknowingly right?

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ThePrinceFish posted...

Do you really think that 0.12 is 12x 0.1?

Yeah I do

We need to stay INDOORS until a vaccine is found

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creativeme posted...

i been saying the numbers were probably 2-3 times higher than reported because of asymptomatic people. but 50+ times is pretty crazy numbers.

as for the numbers i see a lot of evidence saying the deaths are padded for funding. so that mixed with how many people have it and have no symptoms probably puts the death rate at under 1%

even with the numbers now it's 170k died from covid-19 and 147k have died from the seasonal flu just this year. so it's not really that much more deadly than that and that's something we have a shot for.

I think the worry about COVID-19 is how insanely contagious it is.

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ButteryMales posted...

"Based on their results, the Stanford researchers estimated the mortality rate in Santa Clara County to be between 0.12% and 0.2%. By comparison, the average death rate of the seasonal flu is 0.1%."

It's from double to twelve times the flu in your own source.

Sorry my bad. I got a little fixated on numbers for the cold because I've been trying to find those and it seems like a vastly understudied subject. That isn't 12 times though

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ThePrinceFish posted...

Do you really think that 0.12 is 12x 0.1?

No, I posted in around 9 minutes. Made a mistake.

P4wn4g3 posted...

Sorry my bad. I got a little fixated on numbers for the cold because I've been trying to find those and it seems like a vastly understudied subject.

The numbers for the cold are also going to be extremely under reported, though, especially in the US. Most people don't go to the doctor for a cold.

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kinetika_ posted...

I think the worry about COVID-19 is how insanely contagious it is.

And that it's emergent, nobody is immune.

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Regardless of the death rate the flu hasn't caused this much devastation to the health care system in a long, long time. Front line workers describe it as a fucking warzone. Them getting overworked means saveable people die. Them running out of supplies means saveable people die. The main issue was never the death rate, we've had pandemics that were far deadlier, we've know that since the start, the issue is how contagious this is. Health care workers are people to and they are being worked to death using garbage bags and arts and crafts as safety equipment. Think about that, and think about the country this is happening in. We live in the United States of America, and are overworked doctors and nurses have to use literal garbage to feel just a little bit safe.

It was a given from day one. A pandemic with symptoms that are basically the normal flu won't cause most people to go to the doctor unless it took a bad turn because they think it actually is the flu. Factor in the high rate of asymptomatic carriers and the time it's been around, and it was likely most were exposed well before anyone started these social distancing measures.

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Sewage posted...

Regardless of the death rate the flu hasn't caused this much devastation to the health care system in a long, long time. Front line workers describe it as a fucking warzone. Them getting overworked means saveable people die. Them running out of supplies means saveable people die. The main issue was never the death rate, we've had pandemics that were far deadlier, we've know that since the start, the issue is how contagious this is. Health care workers are people to and they are being worked to death using garbage bags and arts and crafts as safety equipment. Think about that, and think about the country this is happening in. We live in the United States of America, and are overworked doctors and nurses have to use literal garbage to feel just a little bit safe.

The US has been this abysmally prepared in Healthcare for decades. It's a system that has been all but gutted. We could have had a response like Taiwan's, where we tested and traced from the very beginning but nobody has given a fuck about Healthcare in years so the hoorahs for Healthcare workers at this very late stage of things is a bit empty tbh. Especially when they still get sloppy seconds on any safety gear.

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If you saw the amount of intubation and narcs needed you'd know that this shit ain't no flu

kinetika_ posted...

I think the worry about COVID-19 is how insanely contagious it is.

it's more of not knowing exactly what it is. the normal flu is just as contagious and that's why they don't go into lockdown for it. it's not conceivable to lockdown every year for months for the flu.