Current Events > Why is America so quick to lift their lockdown measures?

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Just wanna make sure I understand this correctly.

Wuhan just lifted their lockdown last week since being locked down from January.

Italy and France just extended their lockdowns after their peak has already passed.

Yet America had one of the loosest lockdown measures and just started to get hit hard and the first reaction is WE NEED TO OPEN DA ECONOMIESZ!!

murrica.

Economy.

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Money, dude. Money. Gotta get that engine running again, money ain't gonna print itself son. Won't someone PLEASE think of the billionaires?

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People are always going to talk about it. I guarantee you people have been talking about it in Italy too.

Only question is whether it's going to actually happen.

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Chicken_Butt posted...

Money, dude. Money. Gotta get that engine running again, money ain't gonna print itself son. Won't someone PLEASE think of the billionaires?

Yeah, those 20 million+ people who lost their jobs in the last month were all bajillionclaires.

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Because our president is a very stupid person.

Greed.

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I dont get how they can put the economy over public health.

By all models ive seen, America hasnt even hit their peak yet outside of New York. If they rush to open the country back up, theres going to be hot spots just like New York.

ITT: You can only open or close 100% of America at a time

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America is a house of cards and people are disposable if we want to return to the illusion of stability

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Can you guys not oversimplify it? People are losing their jobs, and the economy affects people's lives tremendously.

Phase one is allowing restaurants, religion, and sports places to open with strict distancing protocols, and if shit screws up, they'll lock down again immediately.

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Because the average person's life is a loss the billionaires and politicians are willing to have you take so they can get more money.

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deupd_u posted...

Yeah, those 20 million+ people who lost their jobs in the last month were all bajillionclaires.

You really think that's why they want the economy to open back up before it's safe? They don't care about those people, they're virtually marching them to their deaths.

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We in america value freedom, especially when we have a shit safety net and need to slave away at our jobs to make sure we aren't ass out on the street. long time lockdowns don't work for America because our government is not interested in making such things work, trillions for corporations they can do but a one time money of 1200 dollars is shit for the average american. We need to open back up as soon as possible to avoid that homelessness and starvation. Are people gonna die as a result? Yes, are we possibly gonna make the virus longer lasting because of this, most likely but we have no fucking choice but to gamble because that's the country we live in.

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Probably easier to reopen then face the question of it everything stays shut down who is gonna pay the bills/rent that keep being due but people don't have jobs. Or the small business who will all go bankrupt if everything stays shut down.

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Not just americans, people tend to not are until it effects them personally. Until a loved one dies, they dont give a shit.

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SamuelLJackdson posted...

Just wanna make sure I understand this correctly.

Wuhan just lifted their lockdown last week since being locked down from January.

Italy and France just extended their lockdowns after their peak has already passed.

Yet America had one of the loosest lockdown measures and just started to get hit hard and the first reaction is WE NEED TO OPEN DA ECONOMIESZ!!

murrica.

Well here's the thing, President Trump is an idiot.

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i say let those states reopen. then when all those people are gone we can repopulate

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There are a lot of idiots who let the rich tell them what to think. Like those protests in Michigan that are astroturfed.

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It's not always about money.

Most people don't like living like Neckbeards and NEETs.

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SamuelLJackdson posted...

I dont get how they can put the economy over public health.

Ask the same question of someone who's been out of work for a month already.

Yeah, reopening has shit to do with the worker or even small businesses. Helping people during a long term disaster would require us to dip into the coffers of the rich and that is unacceptable to them.

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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

It's not always about money.

Most people don't like living like Neckbeards and NEETs.

Who said anything about liking it? You really think that everyone saying we should stay shut down LIKES things this way?

Mezcla posted...

i say let those states reopen. then when all those people are gone we can repopulate

How do people repopulate with social distancing?


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Letting covid-19 run uninhibited through the country will also be extremely bad for the economy only with a premium of human life on top

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LightHawKnight posted...

Not just americans, people tend to not are until it effects them personally. Until a loved one dies, they dont give a shit.

This is true. I went for a drive today out of boredom and there were so many people out. Jogging, just sitting at the park together. A lot of groups together, not social distancing at all. You wouldnt think theres a pandemic going on. The people that havent been personally effected by this think its all overblown and want things to open back up ASAP because theyre impatient. It isnt until these people are personally effected by this will they have a change of heart about the situation.

Millions of Americans are losing their jobs. We will be screwed for the next 10+ years if the economy isnt fixed. People think its just greedy businessmen that it is effecting but actually it is everyone.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Ask the same question of someone who's been out of work for a month already.

If a river of lava is preventing me from going to work, I don't think it fucking matters how much I need the money. Maybe my country can help me out in my time of need.

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hockeybub89 posted...

If a river of lava is preventing me from going to work, I don't think it fucking matters how much I need the money. Maybe my country can help me out in my time of need.

Imagine thinking getting the virus is the same as jumping into a river of lava

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a great depression is a greater threat to life than a waning virus

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Master_Happosai posted...

Millions of Americans are losing their jobs. We will be screwed for the next 10+ years if the economy isnt fixed. People think its just greedy businessmen that it is effecting but actually it is everyone.

This is nature's world and we're just living in it. Shit beyond our control happens and we can't just pretend it didn't through sheer American work ethic. Maybe things are just screwed and can't go back to normal. Greedy people can help us in the meantime while we rebuild in a new normal.

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Rivers made of macaroni and cheese

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Master_Happosai posted...

Millions of Americans are losing their jobs. We will be screwed for the next 10+ years if the economy isnt fixed. People think its just greedy businessmen that it is effecting but actually it is everyone.

And if we let it go unchecked and it kills/hospitalizes millions?

On one hand, sacrifice the jobs of millions leaving them possibly poor and homeless with no way of making money and going hungry.

On the other hand, possibly sacrificing the lives millions by reopening.

There's no right answer.

Either one we lose.

myzz7 posted...

a great depression is a greater threat to life than a waning virus

I'm sure the people who lived through the Black Plague were very grateful they didn't have to deal with economic depression.

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Because we have people willing to listen to a complete buffoon that we call President. Just look at Michigan.

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hockeybub89 posted...

Maybe my country can help me out in my time of need.

Maybe you're better off asking Bill the bridgebuilder who lives a couple lava-rivers down the way, instead of expecting someone two thousand miles away to help somehow.

I would argue overwhelming the healthcare system would be worse for the country than a few months of unemployment. The majority, if not all, of states have yet to reach their peak in cases. But to each their own.

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Imagine thinking getting the virus is the same as jumping into a river of lava

A disaster is a disaster. Can't just live life normally in the middle of it because we have to save the economy.

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Stupidity and lack of foresight.

Which was the exact same reason it got this bad in the first place. They never learn, and never will learn until they're all personally affected by it.

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hockeybub89 posted...

I'm sure the people who lived through the Black Plague were very grateful they didn't have to deal with economic depression.

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Chicken_Butt posted...

You really think that's why they want the economy to open back up before it's safe? They don't care about those people, they're virtually marching them to their deaths.

I dont think they care too much either, but thats not the entire situation. There are a lot of regular people who want to get back to their jobs, so they have money to buy food and dont lose their house. Others are probably just tired of staying home and want to go... well, wherever they want to.

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Maybe you're better off asking Bill the bridgebuilder who lives a couple lava-rivers down the way, instead of expecting someone two thousand miles away to help somehow.

Classic meaningless questionmarktarius post. This guy is 45

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Maybe you're better off asking Bill the bridgebuilder who lives a couple lava-rivers down the way, instead of expecting someone two thousand miles away to help somehow.

How much money can Bill send me? I don't want him to go out and die for me

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I can't believe how brainwashed some of these posters are. I'm out before I start saying shit I shouldn't.

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hockeybub89 posted...

How much money can Bill send me? I don't want him to go out and die for me

I suppose if we dump truckloads of pennies into the lava, it'll stop eventually...

Because they want to get drunk and laid.

That is seriously all it is. The exception are the people legit scared they won't be able to make ends meet, but those people are also cowards that don't realize there are safety nets keeping them from being evicted. Perpetual victims.

I have a friend who has basically been on a downward spiral to being a piece of crap over the last year. He bulk ordered a bunch of liquor prior to this because he's developed alcoholism and was getting mad that his order wasn't prioritized. He's breaking quarantine to hang out with his slutty girlfriend that he knows sleeps around on him (he also sleeps around on her) and was whining to me about how he needs to get back to mass socialization, because it's in his blood. Prior to this he was having a mid life crisis acting like a 25 year old because he felt like he missed out on that part of his life. Most people just don't know themselves well enough to keep themselves happy without trying to get drunk and laid, it's the only thing they care about doing.

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burns112233 posted...

On one hand, sacrifice the jobs of millions leaving them possibly poor and homeless with no way of making money and going hungry.

On the other hand, possibly sacrificing the lives millions by reopening.

There's no right answer.

Either one we lose.

Pretty much.

I mean why live in isolation and misery and end up dying in the long run from some other nonsense anyway?

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