Current Events > In the age of video game remakes, I'm sad we'll never get Metal Gear 1

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gna647
04/13/20 2:45:44 PM
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Unless Konami sells it off to another company or something.

and Hideo Kojima already stated hes burnt out on metal gear and wants to do new things. But I wouldnt mind if another developer got their hands on it.

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Irony
04/13/20 2:45:58 PM
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We already got one

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InTheEyesOfFire
04/13/20 2:47:00 PM
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MG 1 & 2 in the Fox engine would be my dream.

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gna647
04/13/20 2:47:13 PM
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Irony posted...
We already got one

We got metal gear solid 1

not metal gear 1. MG1 takes place before MGS1

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AirFresh
04/13/20 2:47:29 PM
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I'd rather competent remakes of Solid 1-3 to be honest. Twin Snakes is just sad.

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gna647
04/13/20 2:48:27 PM
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InTheEyesOfFire posted...
MG 1 & 2 in the Fox engine would be my dream.

Same. But they should scrap the open world map design. Maybe structure it more like ground zeroes, an open map to sneak around but still in a linear sense, just not sandbox

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boxington
04/13/20 2:56:16 PM
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I would have loved to see an epic confrontation between Snake and *MGSV spoilers* Venom

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SauI_Goodman
04/13/20 2:57:26 PM
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How about a grey fox cyborg ninja solo game. I mean if that dbag raiden got one

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gna647
04/13/20 3:14:19 PM
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boxington posted...
I would have loved to see an epic confrontation between Snake and *MGSV spoilers* Venom

Yup, a full fledged CQC fight would be amazing


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DevsBro
04/13/20 3:18:36 PM
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Yeah, people have been asking for a MG1&2 remake since at least MGS4. I think it could actually work really with without HK. They'd just have to be tasteful with it.

Expand the game world significantly, but take the mechanics more the MGS3 route than the MGSV route. There's no need to capture tanks or any of that crap, especially since (unbeknownst to Snake) they would just go right back where they are. Make it much more a stealth survival game that also has killer bosses. Obviously they should tweak a few things in 2 that were pretty silly (the owl, for example), too. They could go either way with CQC, since it's canon that Snake was trained in it but also refused to use it (and for argument's sake, maybe he didn't resolve not to until after 2). Make a new MG battle for MG1 and improve the one for MG2. One indoor a la MGS1, one outdoor a la TPP.

Most importantly, they need to NOT TRY TO KOJIMA IT. If they try to do it Kojima-style, with crazy plot twists and hour long cutscenes, it's going to lose its identity completely. These are Kojima's simplest stories, and the basic story should be more or less the same. Sure, they'll need to expand dialog a bit, sure, cutscenes would be very much appreciated but keep it to characterization and retcon smoothing, and away from anime science and paradigm shifts.

Also, allusions to other entries in the series can be cool but keep them vague, even if it's for games that come before in the timeline. Why? Because Snake is supposed to not know. It's canon that the details of Operation Snake Eater didn't go public until the time between MGS2 and MGS4. Also because we don't want to disturb the flow of the overall story. For example, something like this could work (TPP spoilers):

Snake: Big Boss?! How did you survive Outer Heaven?
BB: I didn't.
Snake: What!
BB: You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

But not this (everything spoilers):

Snake: Big Boss?! How did you survive Outer Heaven?
Big Boss: Well see, I wanted to lay low for a while so I hijacked the body of a comerade who was gonna otherwise be a vegetable, and we plastic surgeried his face and stuff, making two of me. Also you're my clone. Also also, the US government is run by computers instead of humans.

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DevsBro
04/13/20 3:19:29 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
How about a grey fox cyborg ninja solo game. I mean if that dbag raiden got one
Supposedly, this was the plan for Rising 2. At the very least, there would be a chapter or two of playable Fox.

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discodancer77
04/13/20 5:05:42 PM
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Metal Gear 1 is a Metroidvania, change my mind

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DevsBro
04/13/20 6:18:16 PM
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discodancer77 posted...
Metal Gear 1 is a Metroidvania, change my mind
Well it would be the only top-down Metroidvania

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discodancer77
04/14/20 1:45:15 PM
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DevsBro posted...
Well it would be the only top-down Metroidvania

I wouldnt call it zelda-like cuz its not as open-world. Its a game that is very lock-and-key style like Metroid

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Smashingpmkns
04/14/20 1:50:24 PM
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Remake Mg1 all the way through MGS4 in the Fox Engine and I'll give them all my money.
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SpaceBear_
04/14/20 2:27:03 PM
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MGS3 doesn't need a remake.

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Damn_Underscore
04/14/20 2:28:54 PM
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The MSX version is still good though.

It's not like we just have the NES game.
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DevsBro
04/14/20 6:55:27 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
The MSX version is still good though.

It's not like we just have the NES game.
This is a weird opinion that I hear a lot.

They're really not all that different at a fundamental level.

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Damn_Underscore
04/14/20 8:08:43 PM
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DevsBro posted...

This is a weird opinion that I hear a lot.

They're really not all that different at a fundamental level.


They are though.

The MSX version is not as good as the MGS games obviously but still very much playable. The NES version is... not.
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DevsBro
04/14/20 8:10:27 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
They are though.

The MSX version is not as good as the MGS games obviously but still very much playable. The NES version is... not.
I disagree. Actually, I even prefer a few things about the NES version. Not enough to make it better overall or anything, but a few things.

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Darmik
04/14/20 8:12:57 PM
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There's a rumor that Konami has licensed Silent Hill to Sony's Japan Studio so I don't think it's that much of a stretch for it to happen. Especially with Capcom getting the big bucks from it.

Remakes of games from the 90s and 2000s is definitely the next big trend.

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Kajagogo
04/14/20 8:16:14 PM
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I'd like to see a Maniac Mansion remake.

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