Board 8 > Percussion Mafia Topic 7

(+) Yeah! (+)

I'm looking at the last pages to see if roles pop up, and saw this from Chris:

"Blade has flipped town twice. I feel reasonably safe in assuming that he is town. You may call this a hunch if you like."

Yep.. Nothing broken there. Nothing at all.

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Going to get back on someone I actually want to lynch

##Unvote
##Vote:Sultan

I could also be convinced on Scare. Absolutely not voting panth for the reasons I outlined above


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Alright I found the rolelist now. There was something I wanted to see.

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And yeah I remember that game, I miss being a vig.
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htaeD posted...

And yeah I remember that game, I miss being a vig.

...Did you shoot night 1?

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Night 2 from the looks of it.
Had to look that up. I shot scum too!
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No wait I killed the SK
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Votals
[2] Scare - Tange, Sultan
[1] Plum - Crescent
[1] DYL - Panth
[1] Panth - Corrik
[1] Sultan - Plum
[0] MZero - (Plum)
[0] Hb - (Corrik), (MZero)
[0] Balla - (Lea), (DYL), (Scare)
[0] Tange - (Damion), (Scare)
[0] Lea - (Plum)

Day ends tonight at 9pm EDT, in roughly 6 hours. 8 votes for majority.

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Yay I'm not the only one who wouldn't shoot as vig night 1~

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Those votals are a mess.

Death what are you thinking right now, you don't have one down.

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##Vote: Panth

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Those votals are a mess.

Death what are you thinking right now, you don't have one down.

I am thinking I am surprised at how few votes there are so far. Must be the easter.
I know its been sidelining me a bit.

Personally, Panth seems like the way to go. At worst I have not liked how Scare got so defensively angry. And thats not enough for me to think he is scum, let alone for me to want to lynch a claimed cop.

I like you. But Plum is also warming up to me. So I would like to hear your take on him again.(I can see your vote and all)
This also does make me think Lea/Mzero needs to be resolved sooner than later. But thats for another day.

So consider it
##Vote: Panthera

That said, I dont want Balla to go through the day without posting more.
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also why did you look at the Wrestling Mafia?
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Shooting N1 as vig is a good way to prove you arent good at mafia.

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Can one of you guys who are voting panth refute my argument that Puns would try to get his scum mate lynched with 10 seconds left in the day over going to over time where someone else could get railroaded

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htaeD posted...

I am thinking I am surprised at how few votes there are so far. Must be the easter.
I know its been sidelining me a bit.

Personally, Panth seems like the way to go. At worst I have not liked how Scare got so defensively angry. And thats not enough for me to think he is scum, let alone for me to want to lynch a claimed cop.

I like you. But Plum is also warming up to me. So I would like to hear your take on him again.(I can see your vote and all)
This also does make me think Lea/Mzero needs to be resolved sooner than later. But thats for another day.

So consider it
##Vote: Panthera

That said, I dont want Balla to go through the day without posting more.

Plum saying "Sultan and Lea are scum if Panthera is town", then saying "Sultan and Lea are scum is Panthera is scum".

Plum hasn't done anything since then that makes me feel good about that commentary.

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masterplum posted...

Can one of you guys who are voting panth refute my argument that Puns would try to get his scum mate lynched with 10 seconds left in the day over going to over time where someone else could get railroaded

No one was going to get railroaded in overtime.

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htaeD posted...

also why did you look at the Wrestling Mafia?

I had a specific reason related to my role and I wanted to see if I'd find an answer there.

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Corrik7 posted...

No one was going to get railroaded in overtime.

Short of claiming scum I don't think it would ever happen.

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masterplum posted...

Can one of you guys who are voting panth refute my argument that Puns would try to get his scum mate lynched with 10 seconds left in the day over going to over time where someone else could get railroaded

He might have been saying it, but he was saying that while not doing anything to address the reasons people were voting him for in the first place and kept talking about how FUN he was.

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uwnim posted...

He might have been saying it, but he was saying that while not doing anything to address the reasons people were voting him for in the first place and kept talking about how FUN he was.

And this is exactly why I thought it was scum/scum as I watched it.

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uwnim posted...

He might have been saying it, but he was saying that while not doing anything to address the reasons people were voting him for in the first place and kept talking about how FUN he was.

What is your argument here? Did he actually want his scummate lynched over him then?

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Plum saying "Sultan and Lea are scum if Panthera is town", then saying "Sultan and Lea are scum is Panthera is scum".

Plum hasn't done anything since then that makes me feel good about that commentary.

it almost like Im actually thinking and I dont have a script. This is a town tell that you are missing

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masterplum posted...

What is your argument here? Did he actually want his scummate lynched over him then?

The argument is that Puns wasn't seriously trying to stop his lynch to begin with. He didn't even claim until the tiebreaker, a phase in which Panthera had 0 posts.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

The argument is that Puns wasn't seriously trying to stop his lynch to begin with. He didn't even claim until the tiebreaker, a phase in which Panthera had 0 posts.

This doesnt make sense. He was begging with minutes to go. What caused him to change his mind?

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masterplum posted...

Can one of you guys who are voting panth refute my argument that Puns would try to get his scum mate lynched with 10 seconds left in the day over going to over time where someone else could get railroaded

Maybe Puns and Panth didnt know how to get both of them saved from the noose.
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htaeD posted...

Maybe Puns and Panth didnt know how to get both of them saved from the noose.

Are you saying they didnt know the rules? Because a tie at the end of OT is a no lynch.

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I will say that end of the day sometimes people play badly. Like when Corrik fake claimed cop as town vanilla or something and got himself killed. So it isnt iron clad.

but it is enough of a hmm to make me concerned

which is why Im on sultan. They were trying to not lynch panth or puns. Just steering clear, very concerning

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Yay I'm not the only one who wouldn't shoot as vig night 1~

Even as town poisoner that one time I didn't shoot night 1

Oh right, good afternoon people

So Corrik is now claiming he scans for bombs apparently, and Crescent that she is confirmable in some way but doesn't want to show it yet. I don't really like that, but it's more of a "replaced someone who didn't play, please do it" feeling than anything alignment based

I think Scare is the least plausible scanner claim at this point solely based on the actions failed against him. That said I would rather go after DYL based on play because we don't know enough about the set up to feel safe on lynching a cop claim as a first priority. I feel like not enough people are acknowledging that the various scanning/immortality claims can't all coexist without having some serious drawbacks, whether from town roles sabotaging them or from scum being able to ignore some of them. Like everyone points out that the claims are crazy but then no one wants to really think through the ramifications of it.

Speaking of, Corrik you're harping on the RNG but I feel like you're ignoring that if I were scum I would little incentive to not just claim something else, or even claim my actual targets if they weren't the kills (which you think they aren't). Sultan had already claimed his first two nights of tracks and I wasn't exactly under pressure. This game has scum hyper bomb and you apparently can find even more bombs, it's obviously a little fucky.

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masterplum posted...

This doesnt make sense. He was begging with minutes to go. What caused him to change his mind?

Puns never gave an effective reason for people to actually unvote him, and by stalling his claim (and countervoting Scare out of the blue) was giving people incentive to vote him.

Actually, going to analyze these more:

Votals
[3] Scare - Tange, Red, Panth
[3] Panth - (Puns), Puns, (Chris), Chris, Scare
[2] Chris - (Scare), (Sultan), (Corrik), Sultan, (5tar), Lea
[1] Damion - (Red), DYL, (Lea)
[1] Red - (Panth), Uwnim, (Lea), (Sultan), (Sultan)
[1] 5tar - (Chris), MZero
[1] Hb - Corrik
[0] Sultan - (Chris), (Panth), (Puns), (Scare), (Tange)
[0] Lea - (Panth), (Corrik)
[0] Tange - (Scare)
[0] BallaLeonHall - (Scare)
[0] Corrik - (Red), (IGCD)
[0] Uwnim - (Ben)
[0] IGCD - (Panth)
[0] Ben - (IGCD)

Day ends tonight at 9pm EDT, in 7 hours.

Panthera and Scare are tied

Votals
[3] Scare - Tange, Red, Panth
[3] Panth - (Puns), Puns, (Chris), Chris, (Scare), Balla
[2] Damion - (Red), DYL, (Lea), Lea
[1] Red - (Panth), Uwnim, (Lea), (Sultan), (Sultan)
[1] 5tar - (Chris), MZero
[1] Hb - Corrik
[1] Lolo - Scare
[0] Chris - (Scare), (Sultan), (Corrik), (Sultan), (5tar), (Lea)
[0] Sultan - (Chris), (Panth), (Puns), (Scare), (Tange)
[0] Lea - (Panth), (Corrik)
[0] Tange - (Scare)
[0] BallaLeonHall - (Scare)
[0] Corrik - (Red), (IGCD)
[0] Uwnim - (Ben)
[0] IGCD - (Panth)
[0] Ben - (IGCD)

Day ends at 9pm EDT, about 3 hours and 5 minutes.

They're still tied

[3] Panth - (Puns), Puns, (Chris), (Chris), (Scare), Balla, Sultan, (Lea)
[3] Puns - Chris, Tange, Death
[2] Damion - (Red), DYL, (Lea), (Lea), Lea
[1] Scare - (Tange), Red, (Panth)
[1] Red - (Panth), Uwnim, (Lea), (Sultan), (Sultan)
[1] 5tar - (Chris), MZero
[1] Lolo - Scare
[1] Lea - (Panth), (Corrik), Corrik
[0] Hb - (Corrik)
[0] Chris - (Scare), (Sultan), (Corrik), (Sultan), (5tar), (Lea)
[0] Sultan - (Chris), (Panth), (Puns), (Scare), (Tange)
[0] Tange - (Scare)
[0] BallaLeonHall - (Scare), Panth
[0] Corrik - (Red), (IGCD)
[0] Uwnim - (Ben)
[0] IGCD - (Panth)
[0] Ben - (IGCD)

Day ends in 1 hour and 10 minutes.

Now Puns and Panthera are tied. Puns looks really bad if he moves his vote at this point, but he's also doing little to stop the momentum on him. He was telling people to lynch Panthera, but he was doing little to tell them WHY they should lynch Panthera. Frankly, if there's scum in DYL/Lea (Lea who unvoted Panthera in the tiebreaker), I could see scum having been surprised by the buildup on Puns while Damion was their brewing target for a mislynch.

I don't think Puns' behavior towards Panthera is as significant as it looks. It eventually became clear one of the two was going to die. Puns did not put forth significant effort in making himself look town, and even jumped off of him at one point to try to get a special on Scare.

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masterplum posted...

I will say that end of the day sometimes people play badly. Like when Corrik fake claimed cop as town vanilla or something and got himself killed. So it isnt iron clad.

but it is enough of a hmm to make me concerned

which is why Im on sultan. They were trying to not lynch panth or puns. Just steering clear, very concerning

I can't remember anything Sultan's done today other than claim his track.

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masterplum posted...

Are you saying they didnt know the rules? Because a tie at the end of OT is a no lynch.

Anyone who voted to intentionally force an NL in the tiebreaker would be instantly lynched the next day. That's a scum claim.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Anyone who voted to intentionally force an NL in the tiebreaker would be instantly lynched the next day. That's a scum claim.

If no one unvoted it would have stayed a tie, and there weren't many people around without votes down and one of them was Corrik, who had already made it look like he wanted to stay on his HB splinter and IIRC called Puns and I both stupid town

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Also my laptop is acting up and I have something going for much of the afternoon but I will find a way to try to stay at least somewhat attentive to this game, just to show my loving care for the wonderful world of b8 mafia

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Panthera posted...

If no one unvoted it would have stayed a tie, and there weren't many people around without votes down and one of them was Corrik, who had already made it look like he wanted to stay on his HB splinter and IIRC called Puns and I both stupid town

Panth, are you arguing that scum was trying to force a tie?
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Panthera posted...

If no one unvoted it would have stayed a tie, and there weren't many people around without votes down and one of them was Corrik, who had already made it look like he wanted to stay on his HB splinter and IIRC called Puns and I both stupid town

There's no way with that many people and that much time that someone doesn't get twitchy.

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I don't trust the first two people voting Panthera or the person primarily defending Panthera.

This is fun...

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Hbthebattle posted...

Panth, are you arguing that scum was trying to force a tie?

No, I'm pointing out that it doesn't make sense for other people to disregard that possibility entirely on the grounds that deliberately forcing a NL would look sketchy. It's not a logical approach to analyzing that situation to think I'm scum but also think scum wouldn't just leave votes in place and hope town derped

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Town is more likely to find a way to lynch someone not in the tie at all than to let the votes sit there untouched the entire time.

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masterplum posted...

Are you saying they didnt know the rules? Because a tie at the end of OT is a no lynch.

I forgot about that. Hmm.
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crescent

are you in the camp that things my low activity early on makes me scum?

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undefined posted...

Didn't Sultan get redirected to Uwnim?

Yes night 1

Also leas role is like the one role i saw on mafia scum wiki but they cOuld only vote not say stuff like she claimed

Plum i have already been confirmed town tracker....

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You have been confirmed tracker

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I was chris confirmed town to (well said i was town anyways)

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Plum youu claimed motion detector?

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Correct

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Is sultan usually like this? We have 5 hours left and the only thing he has done all day is defended himself by referring to other things people said about him while there is one vote on him

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No idea. he was very concerned about how he looked d1 though.

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uwnim posted...

No idea. he was very concerned about how he looked d1 though.

warning awoogas going off

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I'm going to make today easy for everyone. Someone lied in their night actions and we should just lynch that person today.

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