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St0rmFury 04/10/20 1:44:26 PM #1:	Some defiant U.S. churches plan Easter services, ignoring public health guidelines A handful of holdout U.S. churches plan to hold in-person services on Easter Sunday, saying their right to worship in person outweighs public health officials warnings against holding large gatherings during the coronavirus outbreak. Most U.S. churches are expected to be closed on Sunday, and a broad majority of observant Americans are expected to follow authorities recommendations to avoid crowds to limit the spread of the potentially lethal COVID-19 respiratory disease caused by the new coronavirus. But not all of them. Satan and a virus will not stop us, said the Reverend Tony Spell, 42, pastor of the evangelical Life Tabernacle Church near Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He expects a crowd of more than 2,000 to gather in worship at his megachurch on Sunday. God will shield us from all harm and sickness, Spell said in an interview. We are not afraid. We are called by God to stand against the Antichrist creeping into Americas borders. We will spread the Gospel. The COVID-19 pandemic has claimed more than 14,700 lives across the United States and infected more than 431,700 people, with officials predicting the worst is yet to come. Major U.S. religious institutions, including Roman Catholic dioceses and major Protestant denominations, will hold religious services online as well as through local broadcast radio and television, with just a handful of ministers and priests preaching sermons and reading liturgies to rows of empty pews. Indeed, some major religious-liberty legal advocacy groups, whose mission is to challenge restrictions on freedom of religion, have not raised objections to the closures, saying churches have been treated the same as other major institutions and that safety comes first. In Idaho, Ammon Bundy, who has led multiple standoffs against authorities in acts of protest against the federal government, plans to gather hundreds of people for an Easter observance, in defiance of public health advice, according to multiple media reports. Another holdout church, the evangelical Cross Culture Center in Lodi, California, about 70 miles (110 km) southwest of San Francisco, plans another service even after its members found their church doors locked against them last weekend. Lay preacher Jon Duncan, 43, who has led the evangelical center for more than 10 years, said that under city orders, his landlord changed the locks and shut them out Sunday morning. Lodi police officers was standing by the door, because they were defying both local and state stay-at-home orders and a court order from the San Joaquin County Public Health Services. Instead, Duncan held brief curbside prayers with his congregants as they showed up for the 11 a.m. service. It is disappointing because we have a valid lease, but we wont be stopped, he said. God commands us to meet and thats what were going to do Easter. Duncan expects he and his flock of about 80 regular attendees will be locked out on Easter too, so he has picked an alternate site to meet. He and his attorney declined to disclose the new location to the public for fear of becoming a spectacle instead of a holy service. The churchs attorney, Dean Broyles, has lodged a complaint against the city, and implored Californias governor in a letter to lift the ban on large church gatherings. Duncan said he is steadfast in his decision. We dont believe our rights are eroded by a virus, he said. We will stand together before God even against the gates of hell. https://reut.rs/2K0TXbL GG --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:937137162] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Some defiant U.S. churches plan Easter services, ignoring public health guidelines A handful of holdout U.S. churches plan to hold in-person services on Easter Sunday, saying their right to worship in person outweighs public health officials warnings against holding large gatherings during the coronavirus outbreak. Most U.S. churches are expected to be closed on Sunday, and a broad majority of observant Americans are expected to follow authorities recommendations to avoid crowds to limit the spread of the potentially lethal COVID-19 respiratory disease caused by the new coronavirus. But not all of them. Satan and a virus will not stop us, said the Reverend Tony Spell, 42, pastor of the evangelical Life Tabernacle Church near Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He expects a crowd of more than 2,000 to gather in worship at his megachurch on Sunday. God will shield us from all harm and sickness, Spell said in an interview. We are not afraid. We are called by God to stand against the Antichrist creeping into Americas borders. We will spread the Gospel. The COVID-19 pandemic has claimed more than 14,700 lives across the United States and infected more than 431,700 people, with officials predicting the worst is yet to come. Major U.S. religious institutions, including Roman Catholic dioceses and major Protestant denominations, will hold religious services online as well as through local broadcast radio and television, with just a handful of ministers and priests preaching sermons and reading liturgies to rows of empty pews. Indeed, some major religious-liberty legal advocacy groups, whose mission is to challenge restrictions on freedom of religion, have not raised objections to the closures, saying churches have been treated the same as other major institutions and that safety comes first. In Idaho, Ammon Bundy, who has led multiple standoffs against authorities in acts of protest against the federal government, plans to gather hundreds of people for an Easter observance, in defiance of public health advice, according to multiple media reports. Another holdout church, the evangelical Cross Culture Center in Lodi, California, about 70 miles (110 km) southwest of San Francisco, plans another service even after its members found their church doors locked against them last weekend. Lay preacher Jon Duncan, 43, who has led the evangelical center for more than 10 years, said that under city orders, his landlord changed the locks and shut them out Sunday morning. Lodi police officers was standing by the door, because they were defying both local and state stay-at-home orders and a court order from the San Joaquin County Public Health Services. Instead, Duncan held brief curbside prayers with his congregants as they showed up for the 11 a.m. service. It is disappointing because we have a valid lease, but we wont be stopped, he said. God commands us to meet and thats what were going to do Easter. Duncan expects he and his flock of about 80 regular attendees will be locked out on Easter too, so he has picked an alternate site to meet. He and his attorney declined to disclose the new location to the public for fear of becoming a spectacle instead of a holy service. The churchs attorney, Dean Broyles, has lodged a complaint against the city, and implored Californias governor in a letter to lift the ban on large church gatherings. Duncan said he is steadfast in his decision. We dont believe our rights are eroded by a virus, he said. We will stand together before God even against the gates of hell. https://reut.rs/2K0TXbL GG </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 04/10/20 1:45:54 PM #2:	I have no relation to this person. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:937137254] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>I have no relation to this person. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LastTomorrow 04/10/20 1:46:23 PM #3:	I'm tired of these people doing this. My church closed and doing online sermons. Yet other churches do this. 1. Roman's 13 talks about submitting to governing authority. So when the government says a stupid virus is going to kill you then you better listen. 2. Jesus and deuteronomy spoke about not testing the Lord. Don't keep church open. 3. Jesus said when 2 or more are gathered in his name he is there. You dont need to be a church, it's a building. The people are the church. The Lord knows you and everyone else are doing online stuff. He is not blind. 4. The church is a building. Again from 3. 5. Don't idolize and put faith in Trump. Treating Trump like the second coming or a holy figure is blasphemous. Obama was not the anti-christ. Trump is just as much a false prophet as Obama. 6. God did not tell you love guns more than anything. Stop that. 7. The bible is book teaching about God. 8. Your bumper sticker that says 'God, Guns, and Bible' is oxymoronic and blasphemous. --- Waffle waffle waffle <cite>LastTomorrow posted [p:937137294] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>I'm tired of these people doing this. My church closed and doing online sermons. Yet other churches do this. 1. Roman's 13 talks about submitting to governing authority. So when the government says a stupid virus is going to kill you then you better listen. 2. Jesus and deuteronomy spoke about not testing the Lord. Don't keep church open. 3. Jesus said when 2 or more are gathered in his name he is there. You dont need to be a church, it's a building. The people are the church. The Lord knows you and everyone else are doing online stuff. He is not blind. 4. The church is a building. Again from 3. 5. Don't idolize and put faith in Trump. Treating Trump like the second coming or a holy figure is blasphemous. Obama was not the anti-christ. Trump is just as much a false prophet as Obama. 6. God did not tell you love guns more than anything. Stop that. 7. The bible is book teaching about God. 8. Your bumper sticker that says 'God, Guns, and Bible' is oxymoronic and blasphemous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bluebomber182 04/10/20 1:47:03 PM #4:	jail them and any stupid idiot that goes. you can worship from home. dont put others at risk --- Not changing this sig until Big E or Xavier Woods turn heel and attack Kofi Started 4/14/19 <cite>Bluebomber182 posted [p:937137339] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>jail them and any stupid idiot that goes. you can worship from home. dont put others at risk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain 04/10/20 1:49:00 PM #5:	Once the service is in session, cops need to build a parameter and barricade around these churches. --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL Formerly known as Will VIIII <cite>Villain posted [p:937137468] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Once the service is in session, cops need to build a parameter and barricade around these churches. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeperMessiahXX 04/10/20 1:49:14 PM #6:	There was this church in Italy that had the parishioners send in pictures of themselves, and they taped them to chairs and the priest held mass with the photos. That was pretty cool. Why can't everyone be that cool? Why do these people have to make us all look like idiots? --- We Not Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtN-goy9VOY <cite>LeperMessiahXX posted [p:937137485] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>There was this church in Italy that had the parishioners send in pictures of themselves, and they taped them to chairs and the priest held mass with the photos. That was pretty cool. Why can't everyone be that cool? Why do these people have to make us all look like idiots?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 04/10/20 1:51:07 PM #7:	What do they care if the virus gets spread and people get hurt/killed? It's all "god's plan" and they probably think those that have died were sinners who deserved it. This is why a lot of us consider religion dangerous. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:937137607] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>What do they care if the virus gets spread and people get hurt/killed? It's all "god's plan" and they probably think those that have died were sinners who deserved it. This is why a lot of us consider religion dangerous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
soulunison2 04/10/20 1:51:39 PM #8:	The south really wants to die huh <cite>soulunison2 posted [p:937137641] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>The south really wants to die huh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpowder 04/10/20 1:52:32 PM #9:	They need all that tax free Easter money. --- Whoever beats my score I will give them a $10 PSN or Live card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpiorAx40GY <cite>hyperpowder posted [p:937137701] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>They need all that tax free Easter money. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Bass 04/10/20 1:53:24 PM #10:	What a good way to go meet Jesus early. If they were only killing themselves I'd say whatever, but they're putting many more people at risk. They are nothing but selfish, and terrible Christians. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Master_Bass posted [p:937137751] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>What a good way to go meet Jesus early. If they were only killing themselves I'd say whatever, but they're putting many more people at risk. They are nothing but selfish, and terrible Christians. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 04/10/20 1:53:54 PM #11:	I don't get why cops can't stop this. They have admitted to their plan of defying the law. Just arrest them now. Or go shut down the church ahead of time. Or wait before church service on Easter and every single person who tries to enter goes to prison. <cite>Zikten posted [p:937137770] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>I don't get why cops can't stop this. They have admitted to their plan of defying the law. Just arrest them now. Or go shut down the church ahead of time. Or wait before church service on Easter and every single person who tries to enter goes to prison. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Duncanwii 04/10/20 1:57:36 PM #13:	Zikten posted... I don't get why cops can't stop this. They have admitted to their plan of defying the law. Just arrest them now. Or go shut down the church ahead of time. Or wait before church service on Easter and every single person who tries to enter goes to prison. First Amendment clearly says the government cannot interfere with religious services. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:937138011] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>I don't get why cops can't stop this. They have admitted to their plan of defying the law. Just arrest them now. Or go shut down the church ahead of time. Or wait before church service on Easter and every single person who tries to enter goes to prison.</quote>First Amendment clearly says the government cannot interfere with religious services. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 04/10/20 2:00:08 PM #14:	Zikten posted... I don't get why cops can't stop this. They have admitted to their plan of defying the law. Just arrest them now. Or go shut down the church ahead of time. Or wait before church service on Easter and every single person who tries to enter goes to prison. Republicans don't want to piss them off and/or they believe in that bullshit as well. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:937138154] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>I don't get why cops can't stop this. They have admitted to their plan of defying the law. Just arrest them now. Or go shut down the church ahead of time. Or wait before church service on Easter and every single person who tries to enter goes to prison.</quote> Republicans don't want to piss them off and/or they believe in that bullshit as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 04/10/20 2:00:20 PM #15:	Zikten posted... I don't get why cops can't stop this. They have admitted to their plan of defying the law. Just arrest them now. Or go shut down the church ahead of time. Or wait before church service on Easter and every single person who tries to enter goes to prison. The Bundy family has a history of using firearms to stop law enforcement from doing their job.Which of course they can do because they are white. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:937138165] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>I don't get why cops can't stop this. They have admitted to their plan of defying the law. Just arrest them now. Or go shut down the church ahead of time. Or wait before church service on Easter and every single person who tries to enter goes to prison.</quote>The Bundy family has a history of using firearms to stop law enforcement from doing their job.Which of course they can do because they are white. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 04/10/20 2:00:25 PM #16:	Yeah our governor signed an executive order explicitly adding religious services to the 10 person max limitation that's in place. Republicans overturned the order and now the state Supreme Court will hear the case tomorrow. and I do not have high hopes... --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://imgur.com/FKDXbHs <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:937138169] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Yeah our governor signed an executive order explicitly adding religious services to the 10 person max limitation that's in place. Republicans overturned the order and now the state Supreme Court will hear the case tomorrow. and I do not have high hopes... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Resaix 04/10/20 2:03:13 PM #17:	Darwin award candidates right here <cite>Resaix posted [p:937138337] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Darwin award candidates right here </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 04/10/20 2:05:05 PM #18:	arrest every single one of the people attending and charge the pastors/preachers/etc with high crimes --- Playing: Fire Emblem: Three Houses; Ori and the Will of the Wisps You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:937138467] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>arrest every single one of the people attending and charge the pastors/preachers/etc with high crimes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 04/10/20 2:07:25 PM #19:	Giant_Aspirin posted... arrest every single one of the people attending and charge the pastors/preachers/etc with high crimes Cant do that. Have any of you even read the Bill of Rights? --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:937138596] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Giant_Aspirin posted... </cite> <quote>arrest every single one of the people attending and charge the pastors/preachers/etc with high crimes</quote>Cant do that. Have any of you even read the Bill of Rights? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Odoylerules 04/10/20 2:07:47 PM #20:	Bluebomber182 posted... jail them and any stupid idiot that goes. you can worship from home. dont put others at risk <cite>Odoylerules posted [p:937138614] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Bluebomber182 posted...</cite> <quote>jail them and any stupid idiot that goes. you can worship from home. dont put others at risk</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 04/10/20 2:10:29 PM #22:	Mark down these people. These are the greedy stupid bastards who don't actually believe in religion and only want to line their pockets. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:937138770] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Mark down these people. These are the greedy stupid bastards who don't actually believe in religion and only want to line their pockets. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 04/10/20 2:10:30 PM #23:	God will shield us from all harm and sickness, Spell said in an interview. We are not afraid. We are called by God to stand against the Antichrist creeping into Americas borders. We will spread the Gospel. Interesting how that hasn't worked for the numerous churches that now have outbreaks --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:937138777] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>God will shield us from all harm and sickness, Spell said in an interview. We are not afraid. We are called by God to stand against the Antichrist creeping into Americas borders. We will spread the Gospel. Interesting how that hasn't worked for the numerous churches that now have outbreaks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 04/10/20 2:12:06 PM #24:	DarkRoast posted... God will shield us from all harm and sickness, Spell said in an interview. We are not afraid. We are called by God to stand against the Antichrist creeping into Americas borders. We will spread the Gospel. Interesting how that hasn't worked for the numerous churches that now have outbreaks Those people didn't give enough mon... err, didn't pray hard enough yeah! --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:937138880] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted... </cite> <quote>God will shield us from all harm and sickness, Spell said in an interview. We are not afraid. We are called by God to stand against the Antichrist creeping into Americas borders. We will spread the Gospel. Interesting how that hasn't worked for the numerous churches that now have outbreaks</quote> Those people didn't give enough mon... err, didn't pray hard enough yeah! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 04/10/20 2:13:54 PM #25:	Duncanwii posted... Cant do that. Have any of you even read the Bill of Rights? i have. certain rights are suspended in certain circumstances, like how the freedom of speech is restricted such that you cannot yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater due to the danger it poses. in this instance the freedom of religion is suspended in favor of public safety. also, there are no restrictions against the religion itself as these guidelines against public gatherings apply to everyone. --- Playing: Fire Emblem: Three Houses; Ori and the Will of the Wisps You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:937138987] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>Cant do that. Have any of you even read the Bill of Rights?</quote> i have. certain rights are suspended in certain circumstances, like how the freedom of speech is restricted such that you cannot yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater due to the danger it poses. in this instance the freedom of religion is suspended in favor of public safety. also, there are no restrictions against the religion itself as these guidelines against public gatherings apply to everyone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
radical rhino 04/10/20 2:13:56 PM #26:	Mega churches are for-profit companies, and Easter service is the most profitable day on their calendar, by far. --- .____ [____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick. <cite>radical rhino posted [p:937138990] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Mega churches are for-profit companies, and Easter service is the most profitable day on their calendar, by far. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 04/10/20 2:14:52 PM #27:	Giant_Aspirin posted... certain rights are suspended in certain circumstances Shouldnt be. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:937139059] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Giant_Aspirin posted... </cite> <quote>certain rights are suspended in certain circumstances</quote>Shouldnt be. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 04/10/20 2:15:49 PM #28:	Duncanwii posted... Shouldnt be. well, regardless of how you feel about it that's the law. do you really think the freedom of speech should have absolutely no restrictions? also all of these people are still free to practice their religion -- absolutely no restrictions have been put in place prohibiting that. they just can't do it in a public setting with other people. --- Playing: Fire Emblem: Three Houses; Ori and the Will of the Wisps You see it your way, I'll see it mine and I'll be fine <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:937139113] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>Shouldnt be.</quote> well, regardless of how you feel about it that's the law. do you really think the freedom of speech should have absolutely no restrictions? also all of these people are still free to practice their religion -- absolutely no restrictions have been put in place prohibiting that. they just can't do it in a public setting with other people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rodu_jr 04/10/20 2:16:34 PM #29:	close your door or pay taxes <cite>rodu_jr posted [p:937139153] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>close your door or pay taxes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 04/10/20 2:16:51 PM #30:	Duncanwii posted... Cant do that. Have any of you even read the Bill of Rights? depends on local or state law.... congregating in large groups is a misdemeanor or felony punishable by jail or a fine in most states. as this classify's as a misdemeanor or felony will vary on state. --- Explorers In The Further Regions Of Experience, demons to some, Angels To Others: Pinhead <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:937139173] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted...</cite> <quote>Cant do that. Have any of you even read the Bill of Rights?</quote> depends on local or state law.... congregating in large groups is a misdemeanor or felony punishable by jail or a fine in most states. as this classify's as a misdemeanor or felony will vary on state.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiggy101011 04/10/20 2:17:07 PM #31:	I guess Jesus cant hear prayers through Zoom. --- Gamertag: F1RE v2 PSN ID: F1REx Man got me a 9 and she sexy <cite>Jiggy101011 posted [p:937139191] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>I guess Jesus cant hear prayers through Zoom. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 04/10/20 2:17:08 PM #32:	Duncanwii posted... Shouldnt be. Do you believe that people should be able to yell fire or bomb in a crowded place and that libel and slander should be legal? --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:937139193] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>Shouldnt be.</quote> Do you believe that people should be able to yell fire or bomb in a crowded place and that libel and slander should be legal? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 04/10/20 2:17:14 PM #33:	Duncanwii posted... Shouldnt be. You can't yell "bomb!" in a crowd for public safety reasons (unless there actually is one, of course) Pandemics are much the same. Public health powers are actually mentioned directly in the Constitution (promote the general welfare). --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:937139197] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>Shouldnt be.</quote> You can't yell "bomb!" in a crowd for public safety reasons (unless there actually is one, of course) Pandemics are much the same. Public health powers are actually mentioned directly in the Constitution (promote the general welfare). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 04/10/20 2:18:37 PM #34:	Giant_Aspirin posted... well, regardless of how you feel about it that's the law. do you really think the freedom of speech should have absolutely no restrictions? also all of these people are still free to practice their religion -- absolutely no restrictions have been put in place prohibiting that. they just can't do it in a public setting with other people. The Bill of Rights are an absolute good. The cornerstone of our society. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:937139279] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Giant_Aspirin posted... </cite> <quote>well, regardless of how you feel about it that's the law. do you really think the freedom of speech should have absolutely no restrictions? also all of these people are still free to practice their religion -- absolutely no restrictions have been put in place prohibiting that. they just can't do it in a public setting with other people.</quote>The Bill of Rights are an absolute good. The cornerstone of our society. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 04/10/20 2:20:45 PM #35:	Duncanwii posted... I have no relation to this person. Well now I think you do. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:937139392] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>I have no relation to this person.</quote>Well now I think you do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePieReborn 04/10/20 2:21:50 PM #36:	And that doesn't change the reality that enshrining inflexible and absolute maxims as law is moronic. Thankfully, American jurisprudence adopted a more flexible approach. --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! <cite>ThePieReborn posted [p:937139448] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>And that doesn't change the reality that enshrining inflexible and absolute maxims as law is moronic. Thankfully, American jurisprudence adopted a more flexible approach. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 04/10/20 2:23:46 PM #37:	Zikten posted... I don't get why cops can't stop this. They have admitted to their plan of defying the law. Just arrest them now. Or go shut down the church ahead of time. Or wait before church service on Easter and every single person who tries to enter goes to prison. Some have. Hillsborough County, Florida arrested a pastor who kept having sermons open for a crowd of 100-plus. He was given multiple warnings. https://www.tampabay.com/news/hillsborough/2020/04/02/tampa-pastor-arrested-for-defying-virus-orders-closes-church-due-to-tyrannical-government/ But the next day or two, Govenor DeSantis fucks it all up by declaring churches essential services and not allowing localities to override him. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:937139558] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>I don't get why cops can't stop this. They have admitted to their plan of defying the law. Just arrest them now. Or go shut down the church ahead of time. Or wait before church service on Easter and every single person who tries to enter goes to prison.</quote> Some have. Hillsborough County, Florida arrested a pastor who kept having sermons open for a crowd of 100-plus. He was given multiple warnings. https://www.tampabay.com/news/hillsborough/2020/04/02/tampa-pastor-arrested-for-defying-virus-orders-closes-church-due-to-tyrannical-government/ But the next day or two, Govenor DeSantis fucks it all up by declaring churches essential services and not allowing localities to override him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 04/10/20 2:25:01 PM #38:	Go on my Facebook and you will see I have 0 tolerance for government officials messing with the Constitutional Amendments. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:937139635] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Go on my Facebook and you will see I have 0 tolerance for government officials messing with the Constitutional Amendments. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 04/10/20 2:25:26 PM #39:	"We are willing to die for our god" is one step removed from terrorism ("we are willing to kill for our god") --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:937139660] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>"We are willing to die for our god" is one step removed from terrorism ("we are willing to kill for our god") </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePieReborn 04/10/20 2:29:25 PM #40:	Duncanwii posted... Go on my Facebook and you will see I have 0 tolerance for government officials messing with the Constitutional Amendments. I'll fight people over it (over the internet.) All well and good, but the rights in the Bill of Rights are still not absolute, and no court in the land will answer differently. Particular state action may fail whichever level of scrutiny applies, but that's a case by case basis. --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! <cite>ThePieReborn posted [p:937139903] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>Go on my Facebook and you will see I have 0 tolerance for government officials messing with the Constitutional Amendments. I'll fight people over it (over the internet.)</quote>All well and good, but the rights in the Bill of Rights are still not absolute, and no court in the land will answer differently. Particular state action may fail whichever level of scrutiny applies, but that's a case by case basis. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 04/10/20 2:31:02 PM #41:	Imagine getting to heaven and being told by God that you're a fucking idiot for getting yourself and a bunch of other people killed for no reason --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:937140009] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Imagine getting to heaven and being told by God that you're a fucking idiot for getting yourself and a bunch of other people killed for no reason</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 04/10/20 2:31:07 PM #42:	"defiant" here means "absolutely fucking stupid" --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:937140017] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>"defiant" here means "absolutely fucking stupid" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePieReborn 04/10/20 2:32:07 PM #44:	As I pointed out, inflexibility is moronic. --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! <cite>ThePieReborn posted [p:937140060] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>As I pointed out, inflexibility is moronic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtyPinky 04/10/20 9:51:53 PM #46:	It's times like this America needs that asshole from The Patriot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Py2LZNb79Q I kid of course, but come on people. If Trump is so hard for opening the country, he needs to speak up and ask these people to do it for the greater good. This is his base, white southern Christians have Trump and Jesus hand in hand. <cite>DirtyPinky posted [p:937165390] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>It's times like this America needs that asshole from The Patriot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Py2LZNb79Q I kid of course, but come on people. If Trump is so hard for opening the country, he needs to speak up and ask these people to do it for the greater good. This is his base, white southern Christians have Trump and Jesus hand in hand. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 04/10/20 9:59:49 PM #47:	I don't want to point the finger and victim-blame. Right now though, they shouldn't be preaching about the power to trample on snakes and scorpions. They should be preaching not to tempt the Lord thy God. --- "I am fearful when I see people substituting fear for reason." The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951) <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:937165858] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>I don't want to point the finger and victim-blame. Right now though, they shouldn't be preaching about the power to trample on snakes and scorpions. They should be preaching not to tempt the Lord thy God. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeperMessiahXX 04/10/20 10:03:03 PM #48:	Skye Reynolds posted... I don't want to point the finger and victim-blame. Right now though, they shouldn't be preaching about the power to trample on snakes and scorpions. They should be preaching not to tempt the Lord thy God. These people don't actually know about the religion they practice, they go there and sing a few hymns, stand up, sit down, kneel, stand up, and then they take communion, that's about all they truly know. When they quote the bible to defend some sort of hatred, they just quote what others have said and disregard how many sins they commit according to the bible because they don't actually care enough to read it. --- We Not Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtN-goy9VOY <cite>LeperMessiahXX posted [p:937166043] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>I don't want to point the finger and victim-blame. Right now though, they shouldn't be preaching about the power to trample on snakes and scorpions. They should be preaching not to tempt the Lord thy God. </quote> These people don't actually know about the religion they practice, they go there and sing a few hymns, stand up, sit down, kneel, stand up, and then they take communion, that's about all they truly know. When they quote the bible to defend some sort of hatred, they just quote what others have said and disregard how many sins they commit according to the bible because they don't actually care enough to read it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 04/10/20 10:03:20 PM #49:	Jesus wants you to stay the fuck home --- https://imgur.com/LAvnefi <cite>E32005 posted [p:937166061] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Jesus wants you to stay the fuck home</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 04/10/20 10:04:38 PM #50:	LastTomorrow posted... I'm tired of these people doing this. My church closed and doing online sermons. Yet other churches do this. 1. Roman's 13 talks about submitting to governing authority. So when the government says a stupid virus is going to kill you then you better listen. 2. Jesus and deuteronomy spoke about not testing the Lord. Don't keep church open. 3. Jesus said when 2 or more are gathered in his name he is there. You dont need to be a church, it's a building. The people are the church. The Lord knows you and everyone else are doing online stuff. He is not blind. 4. The church is a building. Again from 3. 5. Don't idolize and put faith in Trump. Treating Trump like the second coming or a holy figure is blasphemous. Obama was not the anti-christ. Trump is just as much a false prophet as Obama. 6. God did not tell you love guns more than anything. Stop that. 7. The bible is book teaching about God. 8. Your bumper sticker that says 'God, Guns, and Bible' is oxymoronic and blasphemous. Reasonable, but a guy with a megachurch isn't in for religion, he's a crook. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://imgur.com/6ezFwG1 <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:937166132] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>LastTomorrow posted... </cite> <quote>I'm tired of these people doing this. My church closed and doing online sermons. Yet other churches do this. 1. Roman's 13 talks about submitting to governing authority. So when the government says a stupid virus is going to kill you then you better listen. 2. Jesus and deuteronomy spoke about not testing the Lord. Don't keep church open. 3. Jesus said when 2 or more are gathered in his name he is there. You dont need to be a church, it's a building. The people are the church. The Lord knows you and everyone else are doing online stuff. He is not blind. 4. The church is a building. Again from 3. 5. Don't idolize and put faith in Trump. Treating Trump like the second coming or a holy figure is blasphemous. Obama was not the anti-christ. Trump is just as much a false prophet as Obama. 6. God did not tell you love guns more than anything. Stop that. 7. The bible is book teaching about God. 8. Your bumper sticker that says 'God, Guns, and Bible' is oxymoronic and blasphemous.</quote>Reasonable, but a guy with a megachurch isn't in for religion, he's a crook. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 04/10/20 10:23:06 PM #51:	Megachurches should honestly be banned. They are scams <cite>Zikten posted [p:937167135] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Megachurches should honestly be banned. They are scams </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Roxborough4Ever 04/10/20 10:25:47 PM #52:	Southernfatman posted... What do they care if the virus gets spread and people get hurt/killed? It's all "god's plan" and they probably think those that have died were sinners who deserved it. This is why a lot of us consider religion dangerous. shut the fuck up, you wouldnt have the guts to say this kind of shit about Islam. --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. <cite>Roxborough4Ever posted [p:937167265] in Defiant Ch... [t:78566058]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted... </cite> <quote>What do they care if the virus gets spread and people get hurt/killed? It's all "god's plan" and they probably think those that have died were sinners who deserved it. This is why a lot of us consider religion dangerous.</quote> shut the fuck up, you wouldnt have the guts to say this kind of shit about Islam. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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