Current Events > Kinda depressing, whats to stop this from happening again?

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Even if this ends in 6 months to a year (or 36 months if those news articles are to be believed?) what's to stop another violent contagious strain from attacking us if the places that host these viruses are still operating?

Elroy Patinski, a man in Georgia who promises to whoop any virus that comes after corona

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China already banned wildlife trade. But the trade can still continue underground. Truth is, there's almost no guarantee another epidemic may happen. But the chances are rather low, seeing as to how it took more than a decade for Covi-19 to immerge after SARS in China

Nothing really. We were long overdue for this anyways. Next up, Yellowstone super duper volcano eruption, blanketing the earf in soot 4 miles deep and California becoming an island off the coast of the United States.

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KillerKhan420 posted...

Nothing really. We were long overdue for this anyways. Next up, Yellowstone super duper volcano eruption, blanketing the earf in soot 4 miles deep and California becoming an island off the coast of the United States.

Yellowstone erupting will likely happen before California falls off the continent

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KillerKhan420 posted...

Nothing really. We were long overdue for this anyways.

*Hana Kimura throat slash taunt*
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Noumas posted...

Even if this ends in 6 months to a year (or 36 months if those news articles are to be believed?) what's to stop another violent contagious strain from attacking us if the places that host these viruses are still operating?

what is violent about [this] virus?

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I mean it hasn't happened for a hundred years before this. Those are decent odds.

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billcom6 posted...

I mean it hasn't happened for a hundred years before this. Those are decent odds.

We made it 101, if you're talking the Spanish flu. There's been pockets of outbreaks after that but nothing like this. How it couldn't be contained is crazy. All travelling to and from China to the United States should of been cut off last year.

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Nothing, just like there was nothing stopping it before,

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Immediate measures should be to reduce contact between humans/livestock and wildlife. This includes both stopping the wildlife trade and reducing our encroachment into wildlife habitats.

Over the longer term, we've got to practice sustainable living and of course stop electing right wing hacks.

Absolutely nothing. Give it a a year and people will forget all about this, if even that long.

Then when the next virus pops up it'll be the exact same thing.

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billcom6 posted...

I mean it hasn't happened for a hundred years before this. Those are decent odds.

It's a mistake just to look at it as the time frame between Spanish Flu and Covid-19, that's not relevant. We've ridiculously lucked out in what we've ended up with between them, not to mention the continually increasing invasion of humanity into areas that were previously "wild" is increasing contact between humans and wild animals, which greatly increases the chances of any type of virus transmitting to humans, and the more viruses that can do this the obviously higher chance there is that any given virus becomes transmissible from human-to-human.

Prior to SARS the known extent of coronaviruses causing harm to humans was the "common cold". We lucked out with SARS because the symptoms were so obvious/severe that anyone showing them was easily identifiable and assumed to have SARS until proven otherwise, among a few other things.

That was less than 20 years ago.

We're now on our second SARS-related coronavirus pandemic. This one is significantly worse, despite having a much lower death rate, because it is generally not as severe or obvious as SARS and therefore is much easier to spread.

The coronavirus that causes MERS also showed up, with the potential to cause its own worldwide pandemic given the right conditions.

There's many other coronaviruses out there with the same potential (SARS happening actually kickedstarted a ton of the research into this). Most of them are not known.

Ebolavirus outbreaks are becoming more frequent. We've lucked out with those, because Ebola almost never spreads through the air so it is much harder to transmit on a larger scale.

There's still more Influenza threats. We lucked out with H1N1 because despite possibly infecting up to 20% of the world's population, it ended up being less deadly than any regular seasonal flu.

In fact there's a strain of H5N1 influenza that is currently spreading practically unstoppably across Asia, Europe, and Africa that could one day become transmissible from human-to-human (there's already tons of cases of it transmitting from bird-to-human). This is legitimately a huge pandemic risk.
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KillerKhan420 posted...

How it couldn't be contained is crazy. All travelling to and from China to the United States should of been cut off last year.

How?

China literally didn't reveal the existence of the virus to WHO (and thus the world) until December 31st. They first detected it in early December.

The entire world would have had to go into lockdown at that point to stop it.
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Oh no. But I was planning on visiting California! Haven't been there in over a decade. You really think it will fall off?

The last thing that killed off half a million people was 11 years ago (h1n1). So, figure in 10 years we'll get another something something. Enjoy the 10 years of care-free living.

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whats to stop this from happening again

Nothing, because you cant criticize or blame china without being called a racist

Bio1590 posted...

It's a mistake just to look at it as the time frame between Spanish Flu and Covid-19, that's not relevant. We've ridiculously lucked out in what we've ended up with between them, not to mention the continually increasing invasion of humanity into areas that were previously "wild" is increasing contact between humans and wild animals, which greatly increases the chances of any type of virus transmitting to humans, and the more viruses that can do this the obviously higher chance there is that any given virus becomes transmissible from human-to-human.

Prior to SARS the known extent of coronaviruses causing harm to humans was the "common cold". We lucked out with SARS because the symptoms were so obvious/severe that anyone showing them was easily identifiable and assumed to have SARS until proven otherwise, among a few other things.

That was less than 20 years ago.

We're now on our second SARS-related coronavirus pandemic. This one is significantly worse, despite having a much lower death rate, because it is generally not as severe or obvious as SARS and therefore is much easier to spread.

The coronavirus that causes MERS also showed up, with the potential to cause its own worldwide pandemic given the right conditions.

There's many other coronaviruses out there with the same potential (SARS happening actually kickedstarted a ton of the research into this). Most of them are not known.

Ebolavirus outbreaks are becoming more frequent. We've lucked out with those, because Ebola almost never spreads through the air so it is much harder to transmit on a larger scale.

There's still more Influenza threats. We lucked out with H1N1 because despite possibly infecting up to 20% of the world's population, it ended up being less deadly than any regular seasonal flu.

In fact there's a strain of H5N1 influenza that is currently spreading practically unstoppably across Asia, Europe, and Africa that could one day become transmissible from human-to-human (there's already tons of cases of it transmitting from bird-to-human). This is legitimately a huge pandemic risk.

If they do a lot of research on this coronavirus, will it help to maybe stop such pandemics from the virus in the future?

Noumas posted...

If they do a lot of research on this coronavirus, will it help to maybe stop such pandemics from the virus in the future?

Yes if we get a vaccine going it will help against future localized outbreaks of SARS-CoV-2 (because this thing is so widespread that it's going to be here forever now).

Remember we don't even have a tested and proven vaccine against SARS-CoV-1 (original SARS virus) because they managed to completely stop the transmission at <10k cases and by the time they were ready for human trials the whole thing was over. There isn't a proven vaccine for MERS either.

However whether a vaccine for this would give any protection against the future SARS-CoV-3 is unknown.

One main thing to take from this though (that also should have been taken from SARS) is hopefully everyone remembers this bullshit when SARS-CoV-3 rolls around and reacts better/quicker next time.
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Simple; they just won't ever let us out of our homes again.

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DevsBro posted...

Simple; they just won't ever let us out of our homes again.

That won't fly here in America.

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Nothing.

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Nothing.

Just try and get sick as often as you can so that your immune system stays strong and healthy.

I don't understand the freak out over the virus. Its the way nature is. A virus, infection, sickness, whatever comes around knocks around humanity and if we survive we become stronger as a result. Its just the way it is and always has been.

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OffTempo posted...

I don't understand the freak out over the virus. Its the way nature is. A virus, infection, sickness, whatever comes around knocks around humanity and if we survive we become stronger as a result. Its just the way it is and always has been.

Because letting this thing just do its thing would doom us for literal fucking years.
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Bio1590 posted...

Because letting this thing just do its thing would doom us for literal fucking years.

We aren't letting this thing do its thing. By creating vaccines and going through the hardships of quarantining we as a species are preparing to deal with other potential scenarios like this. When the Black Death happened what was the result? People learned to sanitize and not work in sordid conditions without cleaning their selves and as a result people as a whole became healthier. Again its just the natural progression of life.

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jmikla posted...

what is violent about [this] virus?

they suffer a violent death by suffocation because they cant breathe when the lungs fill with fluid :(.
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kingdrake2 posted...

they suffer a violent death by suffocation because they cant breathe when the lungs fill with fluid :(.

That is a description of suffering though, not violence.

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Bio1590 posted...

Yes if we get a vaccine going it will help against future localized outbreaks of SARS-CoV-2 (because this thing is so widespread that it's going to be here forever now).

Remember we don't even have a tested and proven vaccine against SARS-CoV-1 (original SARS virus) because they managed to completely stop the transmission at <10k cases and by the time they were ready for human trials the whole thing was over. There isn't a proven vaccine for MERS either.

However whether a vaccine for this would give any protection against the future SARS-CoV-3 is unknown.

One main thing to take from this though (that also should have been taken from SARS) is hopefully everyone remembers this bullshit when SARS-CoV-3 rolls around and reacts better/quicker next time.

You really think we'll get a vaccine though? I keep hearing the virus mutates too quickly and develops into a new strain that you can't make a vaccine of