Current Events > It took the US 1 month to go from 1 COVID-19-related death to 1000 deaths

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It took 3 days to go from 1000 to 2000.
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Our idiot president:

February 26: The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.

February 26: We're going very substantially down, not up.

February 27: One day its like a miracle, it will disappear.

By the end of the week it's possible the US could be seeing 2k deaths per day.

The US is also ramping up significantly more than Italy did, which is obviously not good.
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Trumps America

it's gonna get worse if he releases the restrictions and wants people to go back to work

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The growth is unprecedented and completely unstoppable at this point.

I've been admitting nothing but COVID-19 patients for the past few days.

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This sucks

DarkRoast posted...

The growth is unprecedented and completely unstoppable at this point.

I've been admitting nothing but COVID-19 patients for the past few days.

Where do you live, NY?

Resaix posted...

Where do you live, NY?

Thankfully no. That would suck.

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Thanks trumpeteers.

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The biggest issue I'm dealing with online right now is all the Trump supporters who keep talking about hydroxychloroquine, and how it's a big Pharma conspiracy that we're not giving it to everybody.

We are not giving it to everybody because it's a dangerous medication, can cause heart arrhythmias, and the evidence is almost non-existent that it works. They should let us do our damn jobs.

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Well that's how disease spreading works. One guy can spread to multiple, and each of those multiple can spread to multiple.

I don't see how this would go away outside of a vaccine or the more likely scenario that so many people will get it, the general population gets an immunity to it.

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Squall28 posted...

Well that's how disease spreading works. One guy can spread to multiple, and each of those multiple can spread to multiple.

I don't see how this would go away outside of a vaccine or the more likely scenario that so many people will get it, the general population gets an immunity to it.

The herd immunity approach would be acceptable if the mortality rate wasn't up to 2.5%.


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What do we have, 3rd highest population.....you guys are acting like we have 5,000 people in this country. Theres 300 million people and as weve seen with festivals and concerts and spring breaks and etc. that an overwhelming majority of people arent bothered by this, and lol if you think its only the trump people doing this.

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

What do we have, 3rd highest population.....you guys are acting like we have 5,000 people in this country. Theres 300 million people and as weve seen with festivals and concerts and spring breaks and etc. that an overwhelming majority of people arent bothered by this, and lol if you think its only the trump people doing this.

"I don't understand the concept of exponential growth or rates"

gatorsPENSbucs posted...

What do we have, 3rd highest population.....you guys are acting like we have 5,000 people in this country. Theres 300 million people and as weve seen with festivals and concerts and spring breaks and etc. that an overwhelming majority of people arent bothered by this, and lol if you think its only the trump people doing this.

Come on man you're better than this.

The more people that ignore/downplay it, the more who get it, the more strain it puts on the Healthcare system and the more deaths ultimately happen.

Just because it's "only 5K dead so far right now" doesn't mean it won't be 50K dead in less than two weeks. "oh but we have 300 million people" doesn't mean we should just accept that an increasing number of people are dying

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DarkRoast posted...

The herd immunity approach would be acceptable if the mortality rate wasn't up to 2.5%.

Do we have any choice in the matter though? I want to be clear. I'm not advocating eliminating social distancing, or suggesting what the plan should be.

I'm saying what my theory on what the end point is. We won't be able to develop a working vaccine before a bunch of us get infected. Social distancing will slow the spread, and will help capacity issues with hospitals. But I don't think it will flat out stop it. All it takes is one traveler to bring it back once measures are lifted, and even with measures, it's spreading

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Squall28 posted...

Do we have any choice in the matter though? I want to be clear. I'm not advocating eliminating social distancing, or suggesting what the plan should be.

I'm saying what my theory on what the end point is. We won't be able to develop a working vaccine before a bunch of us get infected. Social distancing will slow the spread, and will help capacity issues with hospitals. But I don't think it will flat out stop it. All it takes is one traveler to bring it back once measures are lifted, and even with measures, it's spreading

We're past the point of outright curbing it without severe, punishable restrictions on movement in place.

We're past the point China got to and China is fucking China and has no problems literally blocking people inside

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wackyteen posted...

Come on man you're better than this.

He's really not. Dude licks Trump's boots any chance he gets

wackyteen posted...

Come on man you're better than this.

Lmao why are you lying to him like that

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Squall28 posted...

Do we have any choice in the matter though? I want to be clear. I'm not advocating eliminating social distancing, or suggesting what the plan should be.

I'm saying what my theory on what the end point is. We won't be able to develop a working vaccine before a bunch of us get infected. Social distancing will slow the spread, and will help capacity issues with hospitals. But I don't think it will flat out stop it. All it takes is one traveler to bring it back once measures are lifted, and even with measures, it's spreading

Well we have to do everything we can before attempting herd immunity. About 80% of the USA at a minimum would need to have been infected for that. Even using the current death rate of 2.5% (if you actually compare the two type of completed cases-deaths and people who yes negative after being sick, the death rate is currently 10% worldwide, using people who are still sick as a part of the overall death/survivability rate does nothing), 80% of the US would be 261.6m infections and a total of 6.54m deaths. We can not afford to go the herd immunity route. As hospitals fill up, the death rate will spike higher. Let alone the death rates of other things that now cannot be seen at a hospital but are still caused by the overcrowding. Those deaths arent included in any countries numbers, including Italy.

Resaix posted...

"I don't understand the concept of exponential growth or rates"

Well to be fair, the rate would differ depending on population and density. There isn't just one exponential growth curve.

The US is much bigger than Italy with much more people. It'd be like the Northeast around NY is one Italy, the West around Cali is another one, etc. Then you add all 5 up. Of course you're going to get more.

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A lot of people for instance in California are flat out ignoring the Social Distancing orders and going to beaches and such.

daynlokki posted...

Well we have to do everything we can before attempting herd immunity. About 80% of the USA at a minimum would need to have been infected for that. Even using the current death rate of 2.5% (if you actually compare the two type of completed cases-deaths and people who yes negative after being sick, the death rate is currently 10% worldwide, using people who are still sick as a part of the overall death/survivability rate does nothing), 80% of the US would be 261.6m infections and a total of 6.54m deaths. We can not afford to go the herd immunity route. As hospitals fill up, the death rate will spike higher. Let alone the death rates of other things that now cannot be seen at a hospital but are still caused by the overcrowding. Those deaths arent included in any countries numbers, including Italy.

Again, I'm not suggesting it as a solution. I'm saying what I think is going to happen because we won't be able to stop it before a vaccine comes out.

Look at China. They have the most stringent quarantine, and let's say you believe that they really leveled it off. They are still getting new cases from travelers, and most of their citizens don't have an immunity to it still. They can still get infected.


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China is just cooking their numbers, in my opinion.

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DarkRoast posted...

big Pharma conspiracy that we're not giving it to everybody.

I thought the pig Pharma conspiracy was that they wanted to sell everyone overpriced drugs, now they don't want to? It can't be both, poeple!

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mustachedmystic posted...

I thought the pig Pharma conspiracy was that they wanted to sell everyone overpriced drugs, now they don't want to? It can't be both, poeple!

Then they counter with "hydroxychloroquine is generic so they don't make much off it!"
Then they ignore the part where Sanofi makes Plaquenil, which is far and away the most common form of hydroxychloroquine in the US

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE68xVXf8Kw&feature=emb_title

Unreal footage
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DarkRoast posted...

The biggest issue I'm dealing with online right now is all the Trump supporters who keep talking about hydroxychloroquine, and how it's a big Pharma conspiracy that we're not giving it to everybody.

We are not giving it to everybody because it's a dangerous medication, can cause heart arrhythmias, and the evidence is almost non-existent that it works. They should let us do our damn jobs.

But shouldn't we all just blindly trust donald because he is donald?