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KamenRiderBlade
03/27/20 2:29:03 AM
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IloveJesus posted...
To be fair, if we're throwing around judgements and punishment for countries that have done shitty things, the USA is going to be pretty high up the list, as is the UK.

The USA/UK have screwed up in the past, but both countries have gone about to try to fix it later on as well.

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KamenRiderBlade
03/27/20 2:30:17 AM
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ModLogic posted...
"they don't deserve independence because japan is an allied country"

Do you think every little sect that cries for it deserves it?

Or are you just hard up on hating Western Countries in general?

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MaverickXeo
03/27/20 2:32:18 AM
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Noraneko_Vel posted...
Why are people blaming China? It's America who fucked this up bad and allowed it to spread uncontrollably within their country, making it pretty much impossible to avoid covid becoming endemic. To make this worse, America is the one being extremely racist towards China.

Meanwhile China stopped it and is protecting other countries.

China is 'ground zero.' The government did not inform the rest of the world of the virus and its potency and actively silenced those who did.

America is its own thing - I am sure that at some point someone in government there will be held accountable as well - but its on a national scale rather than a global scale.

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ModLogic
03/27/20 2:32:39 AM
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The USA/UK have screwed up in the past, but both countries have gone about to try to fix it later on as well.


oh really?
https://preview.tinyurl.com/vpw4km8

When I first read about Soleimani, I was like No way, they couldnt be this stupid. I got angry.
Nothing has changed, they didnt listen.
If Trump was the one that gave this order, Im going to say that was an unlawful order.
Mr Bryant is also calling out to people who are working in drone squadrons around the world to think about what theyre being asked to do.
We think about the Nuremberg Trials, he says, referring to the court cases against Nazis after the Second World War.
All these guys that got convicted during the trials, the one thing that convicted them all was, Well I was just doing my job.
We have not learned the lessons of the past. Were still doing things not like the Nazis, but worse than the Nazis, because we should know better.

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ModLogic
03/27/20 2:34:08 AM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
Do you think every little sect that cries for it deserves it?

Or are you just hard up on hating Western Countries in general?
how dare the natives cry about an american military base and related crime rates. guess they don't deserve to be heard or taken seriously in the interest of the US.

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KamenRiderBlade
03/27/20 2:35:40 AM
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ModLogic posted...
how dare the natives cry about an american military base and related crime rates. guess they don't deserve to be heard or taken seriously in the interest of the US.

We won the war, we signed a binding contract with Japan. Part of it was that we are required to protect Japan, and that means bases on their land.

Winners get to dictate terms.

If there are problems, I'm sure the local military staff are working on solving it.

It won't be perfect, but it'll get better over time.

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ModLogic
03/27/20 2:37:33 AM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
We won the war, we signed a binding contract with Japan. Part of it was that we are required to protect Japan, and that means bases on their land.

Winners get to dictate terms.

If there are problems, I'm sure the local military staff are working on solving it.

It won't be perfect, but it'll get better over time.
funny the base is built on the land of natives that dont consider themselves japanese and want independence aye?

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KamenRiderBlade
03/27/20 2:39:45 AM
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ModLogic posted...
funny the base is built on the land of natives that dont consider themselves japanese and want independence aye?

Many idiots in Texas want to secede, they won't get to.

Same idiots in California that want to secede from the union, they won't get to either.

We fought an ENTIRE CIVIL WAR and that is the conclusion.

Same with Japan, their ancestors unified the country long ago.

Just because a few loud mouths are riling up the locals with propaganda, doesn't mean they'll get to secede from Japan without a civil war.

And Japan would rather not have a civil war. Especially a modern one.

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IloveJesus
03/27/20 2:44:42 AM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
The USA/UK have screwed up in the past, but both countries have gone about to try to fix it later on as well.

They're still pretty shitty today.

I'm not saying they haven't done any good things. They have. But they are countries that function largely on exploitation.

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Arcanine2009
03/27/20 2:45:44 AM
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I haven't read all the replies, but china did ban trading and selling wildlife animals in markets as of february at least. I don't know if wet markets are banned outright, but exotic non farm animals are at least.

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-bans-wildlife-trade-consumption-coronavirus-2020-2

Was china too slow to ban travel outside the country? I think so. It doesn't help that the government tried to silence whistleblowers like the chinese doctor who warned of the virus on new years eve.

I don't know how the U.N could hold them accountable in some kind of court. They did handle it well after in January at least when it comes to quarantining.

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Wutobliteration posted...
China already paid for it through damage to their own economy. Isn't that punishment enough by natural means.

Also whatever happened to the world at large is also the fault of s***ty governments handling it. If you really want to pass blame, you should blame the one first person who got infected by drinking bat soup or whatever. But of course, we have absolutely no idea who that is.
And neither is it the guy's fault for not knowing he'd get a new unknown infection that would one day ravage the rest of the world
lol what? Every country's economy is paying for it. i mean this is the consequence of being slow to react to a pandemic and not notifying people fast enough and closing borders and getting people tested fast enough. I'm pissed off especially that they silenced whistleblowers, because they wanted to save their own asses and not cause "panic." But that's really stupid and just shows how totalirian the government is.

Whether their leadership is better than how U.S. reacted is another subject altogether. Trump handled it poorly and I think a lot of leaders of countries did. It's true that hindsight is 2020 and the world wasn't ready for a pandemic, but china and u.s. had months.

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KamenRiderBlade
03/27/20 2:46:59 AM
#61:


IloveJesus posted...
They're still pretty shitty today.

I'm not saying they haven't done any good things. They have. But they are countries that function largely on exploitation.

Guess who runs the governments and makes those decisions?

The Political Elite class who gets into power, and lets things run away once they get too cushy in those big government positions since they've stayed in their positions for countless years on end.

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KamenRiderBlade
03/27/20 2:49:16 AM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
Was china too slow to ban travel outside the country? I think so. It doesn't help that the government tried to silence whistleblowers like the chinese doctor who warned of the virus on new years eve.

6 weeks of silencing the doctors until they finally had to admit to the truth.

Then they started quarintine procedures and Xi Jing-Ping gave them a 24 hour deadline.

And 5 million Wuhan residents escaped lock down and spread around the world.

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ModLogic
03/27/20 2:50:07 AM
#63:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Many idiots in Texas want to secede, they won't get to.

Same idiots in California that want to secede from the union, they won't get to either.

We fought an ENTIRE CIVIL WAR and that is the conclusion.

Same with Japan, their ancestors unified the country long ago.

Just because a few loud mouths are riling up the locals with propaganda, doesn't mean they'll get to secede from Japan without a civil war.

And Japan would rather not have a civil war. Especially a modern one.
by unify you mean try unsuccessfully wipe out the natives who to this day do not consider themselves japanese

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KamenRiderBlade
03/27/20 2:52:11 AM
#64:


ModLogic posted...
by unify you mean try unsuccessfully wipe out the natives who to this day do not consider themselves japanese

If Japan really wanted to "Wipe out" the natives, it would've been done already.

But Japan considers them Japanese, they're the ones crying to not be Japanese and trying to secede.

Just like the idiots in Texas and California.

Or Catalonia who wants to leave Spain.

Not happening.

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zombiexdeathx
03/27/20 2:53:52 AM
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they should be paying all the bills for all effected countries ... the CCP can surely afford it

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KamenRiderBlade
03/27/20 2:54:25 AM
#66:


zombiexdeathx posted...
they should be paying all the bills for all effected countries ... the CCP can surely afford it

They could, but they won't.

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IloveJesus
03/27/20 2:56:35 AM
#67:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Guess who runs the governments and makes those decisions?

The Political Elite class who gets into power, and lets things run away once they get too cushy in those big government positions since they've stayed in their positions for countless years on end.

I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make here.

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ModLogic
03/27/20 2:57:13 AM
#68:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
If Japan really wanted to "Wipe out" the natives, it would've been done already.

But Japan considers them Japanese, they're the ones crying to not be Japanese and trying to secede.

Just like the idiots in Texas and California.

Or Catalonia who wants to leave Spain.

Not happening.
oh i guess history doesn't mean anything to a revisionist like yourself. how dare ethnically non japanese natives of the ryuku islands not consider themselves japanese when japan sees them as second class japanese. guess by your logic if china says hkers are chinese then hkers are also like texans.

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KamenRiderBlade
03/27/20 3:02:02 AM
#69:


ModLogic posted...
oh i guess history doesn't mean anything to a revisionist like yourself. how dare ethnically non japanese natives of the ryuku islands not consider themselves japanese when japan sees them as second class japanese. guess by your logic if china says hkers are chinese then hkers are also like texans.

They've already been doing that, it's time to fight for independence.

That's what the Hong Kong Protest is going to lead to in the long term, a fight for independence.

Same with East Turkistan where the Ughyur are being oppressed and violated
Same with Tibet, where they're being forcibly assimilated.
Same with Southern Mongolia.
Same with Macau
Same with Taiwan.

If they're going to get their independence, it'll have to be at the barrel of a gun at the end of the day, where the locals will have to do it on their own.

Same with the Chinese people, if and when they want to get power to oust the CCP.

But a Authoritarian Kiss Ass like you would rather see the CCP stay in power, then help them fight an oppressive regime.

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ModLogic
03/27/20 3:03:57 AM
#70:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
They've already been doing that, it's time to fight for independence.

That's what the Hong Kong Protest is going to lead to in the long term, a fight for independence.

Same with East Turkistan where the Ughyur are being oppressed and violated
Same with Tibet, where they're being forcibly assimilated.
Same with Southern Mongolia.
Same with Macau
Same with Taiwan.

If they're going to get their independence, it'll have to be at the barrel of a gun at the end of the day, where the locals will have to do it on their own.

Same with the Chinese people, if and when they want to get power to oust the CCP.

But a Authoritarian Kiss Ass like you would rather see the CCP stay in power, then help them fight an oppressive regime.
you should include freedom for the ryukyuans in your propaganda post

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KamenRiderBlade
03/27/20 3:05:34 AM
#71:


ModLogic posted...
you should include freedom for the ryukyuans in your propaganda post

Oh please, they don't have to deal with an authoritarian regime like the CCP.

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ModLogic
03/27/20 3:06:20 AM
#72:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Oh please, they don't have to deal with an authoritarian regime like the CCP.
"fuck people who want independence unless...."

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KamenRiderBlade
03/27/20 3:07:02 AM
#73:


ModLogic, you seem to hate the west so much, why don't you go live in China or another authoritarian regime?

I'm sure they'll welcome a guy like you who loves them so much.

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KamenRiderBlade
03/27/20 3:08:16 AM
#74:


ModLogic posted...
"fuck people who want independence unless...."
Unless you're under the boot of Authoritarians Socialist / Communists like the CCP.

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ModLogic
03/27/20 3:08:28 AM
#75:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
ModLogic, you seem to hate the west so much, why don't you go live in China or another authoritarian regime?
why are you so against ryukyuans fighting for independence?

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KamenRiderBlade
03/27/20 3:09:31 AM
#76:


ModLogic posted...
why are you so against ryukyuans fighting for independence?
Why do you care so much about them, but not Catalonia, or the new Northern Italians who want to secede from the rest of Italy?

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ModLogic
03/27/20 3:11:28 AM
#77:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Why do you care so much about them, but not Catalonia, or the new Northern Italians who want to secede from the rest of Italy?
by all means put them in your propaganda list as well. but make sure to include the oppressed ryukuyuans.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2007/11/04/reader-mail/discrimination-against-okinawans/

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KamenRiderBlade
03/27/20 3:14:49 AM
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ModLogic posted...
by all means put them in your propaganda list as well. but make sure to include the oppressed ryukuyuans.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2007/11/04/reader-mail/discrimination-against-okinawans/

And?

Are you Ryukuyuan?

What ethnicity are you?

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ModLogic
03/27/20 3:17:06 AM
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wow you really have a hate for these poor folk who want independence.

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KamenRiderBlade
03/27/20 3:19:02 AM
#80:


ModLogic posted...
wow you really have a hate for these poor folk who want independence.

Why aren't you answering basic questions?

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ModLogic
03/27/20 3:20:43 AM
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KamenRiderBlade
03/27/20 3:22:17 AM
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ModLogic posted...
why are you so against freedom for some?

Why won't you answer my other questions?

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TrowaBarton7
03/27/20 3:25:34 AM
#83:


Trump's latest tweet: "Much respect" to China and President Xi

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1243407157321560071

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Kraidette
03/27/20 3:42:51 AM
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We should nuke China tbh

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malenz
03/27/20 3:44:02 AM
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No, but we should become somewhat more independent from them.

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008Zulu
03/27/20 4:05:12 AM
#86:


MaverickXeo posted...
Through destroying their economy. If the world takes a stand and says until things are completely 'fixed', China will not be traded with. Doing that, there would NEED to be mass enforcement in China.
And who is going to take in the billion plus refugees the local economic collapse this would create?

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MT_TRAEH
03/27/20 6:12:56 AM
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i just hate it if US goes down without a fight, and by a fight I mean

Kraidette posted...
We should nuke China tbh

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CarrieChan
03/28/20 6:11:17 PM
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Based on time stamps, post 87 was made on 3/27/2020 3:12AM Pacific daylight time and it was modded, not self deleted.

MT_TRAEH posted and he is currently now warned.
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Arcanine2009
03/29/20 3:36:57 PM
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Woah at this thread still going.

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