Board 8 > Illuminati Mafia Topic 2 - The Man vs. The World

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I always hate this angle on MZero Ive never seen him be active as any alignment. I remember wwe mafia he basically idled his way final 3 and we won cos he sided with puns over I think red.
I agree his content hasnt looked great and Im not saying hes town Im saying most of these votes have a he hasnt done anything since or hes been missing a lot line and thats not indicative of alignment. He simply doesnt post a ton most of the time.
Again Im not saying hes town or youre wrong I just think letting his activity influence your read is often a mistake.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Alright so Tange.

Do you think Aecioo is scum yes or no.

I think he could be

I think there are better options out there I would rather vote, first

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5tarscream posted...

I always hate this angle on MZero Ive never seen him be active as any alignment. I remember wwe mafia he basically idled his way final 3 and we won cos he sided with puns over I think red.
I agree his content hasnt looked great and Im not saying hes town Im saying most of these votes have a he hasnt done anything since or hes been missing a lot line and thats not indicative of alignment. He simply doesnt post a ton most of the time.
Again Im not saying hes town or youre wrong I just think letting his activity influence your read is often a mistake.

It's not just the inactivity- what he's done with his time has done nothing to make me think he's town.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Felt good about Gravy/Ben being Town but would not feel the same if it was just Ben.

With our powers combined we are STRONGER


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PunishedBen posted...

That said, I;d skill kill him over most people in this game. Dead weight and all

This is exactly what I was talking about earlier. Killing idle town is a terrible idea. Its literally doing scums job for them. The only time Id consider this is when all the active players read town so by poe the idlers are scum. Idle players can be solved easily with a scan. Use the active players to get reads and scans to clear up idles. If they truly idle too long then they should be replaced. Killing idle players that you dont think are scum is a terrible idea.

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5tarscream posted...

I always hate this angle on MZero Ive never seen him be active as any alignment. I remember wwe mafia he basically idled his way final 3 and we won cos he sided with puns over I think red.
I agree his content hasnt looked great and Im not saying hes town Im saying most of these votes have a he hasnt done anything since or hes been missing a lot line and thats not indicative of alignment. He simply doesnt post a ton most of the time.
Again Im not saying hes town or youre wrong I just think letting his activity influence your read is often a mistake.

It's the fact that he happened to show up shortly after Sultan shot and make an unjustifiable comment that was identical to one he made last game as scum.

Add in that aside from being a bit more active than last game he's added little of value, and you have someone who probably just did the exact same thing as scum in back to back games.

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Has Aecioo in their time being here made anyone feel he was town

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Hbthebattle posted...

Okay, Scare, explain this to me: why is making that mistake specifically a scumslip?

if corrik is town, you as scum know this

you dont read the target and just see sultan flip

"yup confirmed town corrik" because you already know corrik is town due to your alignment being scum

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Felt good about Gravy/Ben being Town but would not feel the same if it was just Ben.

I agree with this.

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PunishedBen posted...

Has Aecioo in their time being here made anyone feel he was town

I mean he didn't really do anything at all, so no
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PunishedBen posted...

Has Aecioo in their time being here made anyone feel he was town

Han and SBell come to mind.

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5tarscream posted...

This is exactly what I was talking about earlier. Killing idle town is a terrible idea. Its literally doing scums job for them. The only time Id consider this is when all the active players read town so by poe the idlers are scum. Idle players can be solved easily with a scan. Use the active players to get reads and scans to clear up idles. If they truly idle too long then they should be replaced. Killing idle players that you dont think are scum is a terrible idea.

I agree. WHich is why I have no interest in kill Mzero right now unless the alternative lynch is one of my town reads.

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Hbthebattle posted...

It's not just the inactivity- what he's done with his time has done nothing to make me think he's town.

I know I was just saying I hate it when people simply say hes been absent so he must be scum because its nonsense.

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PunishedBen posted...

I agree. WHich is why I have no interest in kill Mzero right now unless the alternative lynch is one of my town reads.

You're the only person I can remember who has outright called MZero town.

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PunishedBen posted...

I agree. WHich is why I have no interest in kill Mzero right now unless the alternative lynch is one of my town reads.

Alright, Ben. What came across as towny about MZero to you?
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Crescent-Moon posted...

I agree with this.

Kind of irrelevant since it's not just me! I am admittedly going to feel much more comfortable with doing whatever I want this game since I think Gravy confirmed me before I even joined.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

You're the only person I can remember who has outright called MZero town.

That I did. Which is why I feel it is unfortunate that his last thing he did was truly scummy and that he's not here to defend himself. I want to trust my initial read but all I'm left with now is that bad taste in my mouth. I also feel that makes him a very easy target for scum to lynch today. I'm conflicted.

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DoubleTangicide posted...

I think he could be

I think there are better options out there I would rather vote, first

Name some not named Scare.

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Hbthebattle posted...

Alright, Ben. What came across as towny about MZero to you?

I dont remember but I'm pretty sure I posted about it when it happened

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NON UPDATED VOTALS! NOW WITH UPDATES
Tange [4] - Red, 5tar, Han, Scare,
Scare [2] - (Sultan), Sbell, Tange,
MZero [2] - (Han), HB, Crescent,
HB [1] - (Scare), (Han), Mzero, (Sultan),
Aecioo [1] - (Gravy), (Crescent), (5tar), Ben, (Han)
Han [0] - (Scare),
Corrik [0] - (Red),
Sultan [0] - (Gravy), (Han),
Gravy [0] - (Mzero), (Aecioo), (Red), (Sbell), (Sultan),

Day ends TODAY, March 27th at 6pm central(8et 5pt) in roughly 32 minutes. It takes 7 votes to end day early.

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Um... Those vitals are super old vitals being posted as new ones

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PunishedBen posted...

Scum Mzero knows the vote looks bad and probably doesn't do it or engage with the people hounding him for it. Town Mzero has an honest answer for believing it to be totally justified.

It was about him voting Gravy for his post that he got warned for

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Um... Those vitals are super old vitals being posted as new ones

it does say "non-updated"
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We're too split right now. We mostly agree on the people we want to kill but we're all over the place on them.

Some actual votes would be nice.. I think Tange has 4, MZero has 2.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Name some not named Scare.

scare

(just kidding)

I honestly dont disagree with the case against mzero right now. He hasnt been very present and his posts lack punch.

there're been

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Hbthebattle posted...

it does say "non-updated"

Well I did miss that part but that did not seem particularly helpful

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My vote is on Aecioo and is the true vote of love and justice

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DoubleTangicide posted...

scare

(just kidding)

I honestly dont disagree with the case against mzero right now. He hasnt been very present and his posts lack punch.

there're been

So like

Anything to add that's your own

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Yeah unfortunately the thing Mzero did that makes him look like not scum happened in the realm that Crescent wont read.

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I just got out of the shower do we have 4eal votals.

PunishedBen posted...

My vote is on Aecioo and is the true vote of love and justice

I think the most likely thing here is exactly one of Tange and him is scum and I don't like either of them very much.

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PunishedBen posted...

Yeah unfortunately the thing Mzero did that makes him look like not scum happened in the realm that Crescent wont read.

Quote it?

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I can quickly go back and do an iso, but with so little to go off of, those are basically the main points

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Leafeon13N posted...

I just got out of the shower do we have 4eal votals.

You have 6 votes.

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Leafeon13N posted...

I just got out of the shower do we have 4eal votals.

You, Han, 5tar, and Scare are on Tange right now. He's leading at 4.

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

You have 6 votes.

Damn it Han.

VOTALS HAVE BEEN UPDATED
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This is what I'm talking about with Tange. He doesnt realize that Mzero has not been here and been lacking punch in exactly all of the recent games regardless of alignment, especially on day 1. But Tange should be forgiven as he has not been the most recent batch of games .Poor misunderstood Tange

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The only thing zero did in the first few pages was vote gravy then one post saying he didnt see any Chris shade. Neither of these are town posts. They are at best neutral

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If we're going to avoid lynching inactive for Day 1, then we're going to lynch Tange.

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Wait is Sultans vote still valid?

IfGodCouldDie posted...

VOTALS HAVE BEEN UPDATED
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you're counting sultan's vote again
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Zero then goes on to point out the hypocrisy of battle shading him being inactive while complaining about his vote being opportunistic because gravy was being a tool.
Then he mentions that replacement meta is bad and then you call him town.

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Sometimes, me calling you town is all you need ;-;

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PunishedBen posted...

Yeah unfortunately the thing Mzero did that makes him look like not scum happened in the realm that Crescent wont read.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Quote it?

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claim, tange?

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I summed it up for you and Ben. There really isnt much, I guess it was gut based on zeros comments on replacement meta being bad. This could simply be because zero made a vague mention that assuming replaces are scum is bad and that made Ben view him better.

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HB called Mzero opportunistic for voting Gravy for "being mean" and not for "Being scum".

MZero11 posted...

Opportunistic of what exactly

I just voted him for being a butt

Mzero's answer I felt was honest and that he really didnt think it was opportunistic. Whereas if Mzero was scum I think is afraid that voting Gravy there WILL look opportunistic and not have done it.


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I remember he later said "Since when are my page 1 votes serious"

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Guess I'm voting Scare if we're really sticking to Tange

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