Board 8 > Illuminati Mafia Topic 2 - The Man vs. The World

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DoubleTangicide
03/27/20 6:51:18 PM
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PunishedBen
03/27/20 6:51:40 PM
#252:


Tange I do town read him overall because he's been engaging people and throwing a lot of things out there.

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Crescent-Moon
03/27/20 6:53:09 PM
#253:


I find it curious that Tange showed willingness to vote Aecioo "if he felt he had to", then said he only wants to lynch people he thinks are scum, but won't actually call Aecioo scum.

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ScareChan
03/27/20 6:54:55 PM
#254:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
5tar is trying too hard.

Scare, where did you think Tange slipped?

he didn't bother to read who Sultan shot and just assumed it was Corrik. After the stoppage he came in said corrik was confirmed, not you

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PunishedBen
03/27/20 6:55:52 PM
#255:


Tange is a little all over the place but I think it's sincere. Like when he attacked me because he really seemed to believe there's no such thing as town/town neighbors. I think he genuinely thought that and that there was real suspicion here. I don't think he fabricated being in that mindset because he thought he was gonna lead a lynch on one of us.

So I think he's town

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HanOfTheNekos
03/27/20 6:55:56 PM
#256:


And how do you feel about Ben being a big jerk?

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ScareChan
03/27/20 6:56:47 PM
#257:


Why is Ben a big jerk?

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5tarscream
03/27/20 6:57:12 PM
#258:


Hbthebattle posted...
The context of his post- positively responding to Han- makes it unlikely that he intended to vote Han.

I asked how he forgot Sultan died I didnt mention him voting Han.

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Hbthebattle
03/27/20 6:57:25 PM
#259:


ScareChan posted...


he didn't bother to read who Sultan shot and just assumed it was Corrik. After the stoppage he came in said corrik was confirmed, not you

That's not necessarily a slip- Sultan was threatening Corrik right until he switched to shoot Han last minute. Being careless with reading doesn't necessarily indicate scumminess.
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PunishedBen
03/27/20 6:57:54 PM
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Bit of a run on sentence there. I mean I don't think he was faking that thought process, because if he was then he knows everyone is gonna disagree with him, whereas he looked like he felt he was really onto something there

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Crescent-Moon
03/27/20 6:58:39 PM
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PunishedBen posted...
Tange is a little all over the place but I think it's sincere. Like when he attacked me because he really seemed to believe there's no such thing as town/town neighbors. I think he genuinely thought that and that there was real suspicion here. I don't think he fabricated being in that mindset because he thought he was gonna lead a lynch on one of us.

So I think he's town
The problem I have right now is between his willingness to vote Aecioo and just about everything he's said since. It feels disjointed at best and contradictory at worst.

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Hbthebattle
03/27/20 6:59:41 PM
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5tarscream posted...


I asked how he forgot Sultan died I didnt mention him voting Han.

Sultan dying didn't necessarily nullify his vote, especially as IGCD didn't remove his name from the votals. That's not much of a "slip", either.
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PunishedBen
03/27/20 6:59:53 PM
#263:


I still feel like I have not adequately explained my town read on Tange. But it's there

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Crescent-Moon
03/27/20 7:00:17 PM
#264:


Frankly though I'd be perfectly fine going to MZero right now and giving this more time to resolve.

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ScareChan
03/27/20 7:00:26 PM
#265:


Hbthebattle posted...
That's not necessarily a slip- Sultan was threatening Corrik right until he switched to shoot Han last minute. Being careless with reading doesn't necessarily indicate scumminess.

carelessly reading a wall? sure I get skimming

carlessly reading

kill: player
stop
result
go

??

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Hbthebattle
03/27/20 7:01:52 PM
#266:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Frankly though I'd be perfectly fine going to MZero right now and giving this more time to resolve.

Then let's do so
##Vote: MZero
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Crescent-Moon
03/27/20 7:01:56 PM
#267:


##Unvote
##Vote: MZero

Tange threw a monkey wrench into my thought process. What hasn't changed is I still think this is a good lynch.


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HanOfTheNekos
03/27/20 7:02:14 PM
#268:


But not Aecioo?

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PunishedBen
03/27/20 7:02:22 PM
#269:


Scare focusing on that slip and only the slip I do not like. Scares been slipping all over the place this topic so he should be able to relate

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Hbthebattle
03/27/20 7:02:59 PM
#270:


ScareChan posted...


carelessly reading a wall? sure I get skimming

carlessly reading

kill: player
stop
result
go

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Okay, Scare, explain this to me: why is making that mistake specifically a scumslip?
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Crescent-Moon
03/27/20 7:03:04 PM
#271:


ScareChan posted...
carelessly reading a wall? sure I get skimming

carlessly reading

kill: player
stop
result
go

??
Tange also screwed up who I was arguing with at the time. He was skirting the topic instead of truly engaged during Sultan time.

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HanOfTheNekos
03/27/20 7:03:06 PM
#272:


Tange's defense this whole time has been whataboutism. Not satisfied hopping off Tange yet.

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5tarscream
03/27/20 7:03:13 PM
#273:


ScareChan posted...
oops

that should be fixed then yeah

This suggests to me that he forgot and Im not even calling it a slip Im legit asking how he forgot Sultan was dead now if youd like to shut up and let him answer maybe we can move on.


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DoubleTangicide
03/27/20 7:04:43 PM
#274:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Tange's defense this whole time has been whataboutism. Not satisfied hopping off Tange yet.


it makes zero sense to look at my supposed slip and claim it to be scummy

then look at scares slip and claim it not to be

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HanOfTheNekos
03/27/20 7:05:35 PM
#275:


I'm not looking at your slip. I'm looking at your behavior.

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PunishedBen
03/27/20 7:05:36 PM
#276:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Tange's defense this whole time has been whataboutism. Not satisfied hopping off Tange yet.
If my memory serves correct, that might just be Tange...

Speaking of Tange, doesnt he post in only rules of 3 as scum?

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Crescent-Moon
03/27/20 7:05:42 PM
#277:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Tange's defense this whole time has been whataboutism. Not satisfied hopping off Tange yet.
I think he has failed to complete the circle of his own logic, but I also feel like it'd be easy to do it, and its confusing me.

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5tarscream
03/27/20 7:05:48 PM
#278:


Are we voting Miz for being absent or for being scummy? If its for not responding to a mention in the middle of the night then we need to take a real hard look at those trying to jump all over it right now

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5tarscream
03/27/20 7:07:12 PM
#279:


Hb Crescent can you each tell me one thing from your own reads about why you think mzero is the best lynch today.

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Crescent-Moon
03/27/20 7:07:41 PM
#280:


5tarscream posted...
Are we voting Miz for being absent or for being scummy? If its for not responding to a mention in the middle of the night then we need to take a real hard look at those trying to jump all over it right now
It's for how he reacted to Sultan "killing" Han, both preceded by and followed by doing nothing else whatsoever.

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HanOfTheNekos
03/27/20 7:08:03 PM
#281:


5tarscream posted...
Are we voting Miz for being absent or for being scummy? If its for not responding to a mention in the middle of the night then we need to take a real hard look at those trying to jump all over it right now

MZero said I was obvious Town after Sultan suicided into me. Felt very fake.

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5tarscream
03/27/20 7:08:10 PM
#282:


Ok.
Hb?

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PunishedBen
03/27/20 7:08:55 PM
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5tarscream
03/27/20 7:09:02 PM
#284:


I know your reasons Han but thanks anyway. I want Battle to give me an individual reason without piggybacking or simply trying to divert attention.

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5tarscream
03/27/20 7:09:47 PM
#285:


Goddammit why doesnt anyone let people answer their own questions.

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5tarscream
03/27/20 7:10:06 PM
#286:


PunishedBen posted...
Hb's claimed bodyguard


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Crescent-Moon
03/27/20 7:10:25 PM
#287:


5tarscream posted...
Hb Crescent can you each tell me one thing from your own reads about why you think mzero is the best lynch today.
What Han pointed out about MZero probably makes MZero scum. That and the behavior surrounding it.

Ben is making me more hesitant on Tange. I also don't get why scum Tange doesn't just come up with an excuse for his stance on Aecioo.

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PunishedBen
03/27/20 7:10:48 PM
#288:


5tarscream posted...
Goddammit why doesnt anyone let people answer their own questions.
Sorry I thought ypu were asking if we should kill HB lol

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HanOfTheNekos
03/27/20 7:10:49 PM
#289:


Scumslip!

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HanOfTheNekos
03/27/20 7:11:11 PM
#290:


What if BOTH neighbors are Scum! :O

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PunishedBen
03/27/20 7:11:28 PM
#291:


Sbell told me he was bodyguard, so it's actually Sbell who scum slipped!

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Crescent-Moon
03/27/20 7:11:35 PM
#292:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
MZero said I was obvious Town after Sultan suicided into me. Felt very fake.
It's more than this though. MZero came out of nowhere to make this comment, did nothing after this comment, and made an extremely similar comment last game as scum.

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5tarscream
03/27/20 7:11:51 PM
#293:


Crescent-Moon posted...
What Han pointed out about MZero probably makes MZero scum. That and the behavior surrounding it.

Ben is making me more hesitant on Tange. I also don't get why scum Tange doesn't just come up with an excuse for his stance on Aecioo.

You think theres any chance he realised he fucked up and the boys rolled in to bail him out? It was awfully convenient timing for Scare to show up after hed been missing

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Hbthebattle
03/27/20 7:12:00 PM
#294:


MZero's looked scummy to me from his early vote feeling opportunistic, and that feeling still hasn't gone away. I told him specifically to his face that he probably wasn't scum if he actually came to play, but the only thing he's done is try to push back against me. I think this is another example is him trying to idle out as scum.
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Crescent-Moon
03/27/20 7:12:28 PM
#295:


And had never said anything previously in the game that would have justified his comment in the first place.

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Crescent-Moon
03/27/20 7:13:34 PM
#296:


5tarscream posted...
You think theres any chance he realised he fucked up and the boys rolled in to bail him out? It was awfully convenient timing for Scare to show up after hed been missing
Scare really isn't helping Tange.

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HanOfTheNekos
03/27/20 7:13:40 PM
#297:


Votals please.

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PunishedBen
03/27/20 7:14:24 PM
#298:


I dont really feel like we can say he's idled out yet. Relative to how he plays that is.

That said, I;d skill kill him over most people in this game. Dead weight and all

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Crescent-Moon
03/27/20 7:14:58 PM
#299:


Alright so Tange.

Do you think Aecioo is scum yes or no.

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HanOfTheNekos
03/27/20 7:16:13 PM
#300:


Honestly, at the moment, I feel solid about Crescent, 5tar, kinda Corrik, being Town. Red a little bit, though not really enough for me to stake anything on it.

Felt good about Gravy/Ben being Town but would not feel the same if it was just Ben.

I want Tange and MZero dead. Would also take a dead Scare and SBell.

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