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le-seul-dieu
03/21/20 3:38:55 AM
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well?
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TheTrueAmerican
03/21/20 3:46:36 AM
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Money runs out and you start eating animals at the zoo. Why would rich people stay if they have options to go elsewhere with their cash?

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le-seul-dieu
03/21/20 3:50:24 AM
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TheTrueAmerican posted...
Money runs out and you start eating animals at the zoo. Why would rich people stay if they have options to go elsewhere with their cash?
cash is imaginary. the rich cannot take their production means with them. The people, their factories, the materials used to make products, they cannot simply be moved in the short term.

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and it really seems like we're about to be at that point due to the free market
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TheTrueAmerican
03/21/20 3:52:16 AM
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Keep telling yourself that. Rich people, the real rich people are essentially mortal gods compared to us and can destroy or create nations on a whim.

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le-seul-dieu
03/21/20 3:57:44 AM
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ok lol. let's see how jeff bezo's bald ass fares when his workers realize, " oh shit, we don't need this guy to keep shit running!"

really though, think about your own boss. What does he actually do? @TheTrueAmerican
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Blue_Dream87
03/21/20 4:01:21 AM
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I'm more of a socialist than a capitalist, but my main 2 problems keeping me from full-tilt:

1) I'm also anarchist, and it seems socialism needs to consolidate power to a single class, and I fear that state class will never give the power back once the system is in place.

2) It doesn't seem to work on a larger scale than a small country/region. Most socialist states (or close enough) don't have the vast diversity of populations like in the Western world.

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TheTrueAmerican
03/21/20 4:01:29 AM
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Jeff is a poor boy compared to the ones I'm referring to. We're not allowed to know their names, what they look like or anything because of how much wealth they wield.

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Rikiaz
03/21/20 4:05:46 AM
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I don't. I support and advocate for democratic socialism.

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le-seul-dieu
03/21/20 4:16:25 AM
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TheTrueAmerican posted...
Jeff is a poor boy compared to the ones I'm referring to. We're not allowed to know their names, what they look like or anything because of how much wealth they wield.
so we on our Qanon (((globalists))) shit now? please.

Blue_Dream87 posted...
I'm more of a socialist than a capitalist, but my main 2 problems keeping me from full-tilt:

1) I'm also anarchist, and it seems socialism needs to consolidate power to a single class, and I fear that state class will never give the power back once the system is in place.

2) It doesn't seem to work on a larger scale than a small country/region. Most socialist states (or close enough) don't have the vast diversity of populations like in the Western world.

Blue_Dream87 posted...
I'm more of a socialist than a capitalist, but my main 2 problems keeping me from full-tilt:

1) I'm also anarchist, and it seems socialism needs to consolidate power to a single class, and I fear that state class will never give the power back once the system is in place.

2) It doesn't seem to work on a larger scale than a small country/region. Most socialist states (or close enough) don't have the vast diversity of populations like in the Western world.
State and Revolution by Lenin is a good read for this. there's a reddit thread I was reading where some users had some good responses to this question.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/fidjqt/i_listened_to_1_out_of_5_hours_of_state_and/
https://youtu.be/uDOafVeKmpE
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TheTrueAmerican
03/21/20 4:20:07 AM
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Even higher. Probably just one family.

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