Current Events > Less than 200 Americans have died from the Corona Virus at this point

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I'm not seeing any astronomical increase like they keep saying. We'll know in about a week or so a lot more about how well we've handled this because of the delay in symptom onset.

We're still in the middle of things now and have a ways to go but I feel like the media is deliberately trying to make things seem worse than they are.

They use tricky language and focus on "new cases" without talking about the fact that very few people are dying.

When they do speak of deaths they use language that's more convoluted than necessary to make things appear worse.

https://twitter.com/MarilynMill_/status/1237822997966266368?s=20

Not to mention, our statistical models can be very flawed. Especially if we're only confirming/testing people with the most severe symptoms, obviously that will artificially increase the mortality rate.

https://twitter.com/gul_garak/status/1240835443308015620?s=20

And no pointing this out doesn't mean I think we should all be outside mingling with each other. Just trying to add some level headed perspective since the politicians and the media seem to be more interested in inducing panic and emotional reactions.


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Wrong, its now 218: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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I think it's funny when people keep saying U.S. is going down the same path as Italy, as if they're even remotely comparable, culturally/societally lol.

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LostForest posted...

I think it's funny when people keep seeing U.S. is going down the same path as Italy, as if they're even remotely comparable, culturally/societally lol.

They say it because if you compare the two from the first day of infection, the numbers are almost identical. Couple that with both countries not taking the virus seriously early on.

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Tired-Insomniac posted...

They say it because if you compare the two from the first day of infection, the numbers are almost identical. Couple that with both countries not taking the virus seriously early on.

Is this going based on percentage or individual cases? Cuz Italy has a population that's almost one sixth the size of the U.S., so...

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LostForest posted...

Is this going based on percentage or individual cases? Cuz Italy has a population that's almost one sixth the size of the U.S., so...

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people acting like its nothing because the numbers arent skyrocketing are on some galaxy brain shit. Not only have we not been testing consistently, but the numbers plateauing means the mitigation efforts are working and need to continue. The whole point is to get the wave to stagger instead of slamming our medical infrastructure all at once.

LostForest posted...

I think it's funny when people keep seeing U.S. is going down the same path as Italy, as if they're even remotely comparable, culturally/societally lol.

We have fewer icu beds per 1000 people, guy

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Ignore it now and you'll see our hospitals devastated by mid April

I'm hoping the virus will move slowly, and with us being more spread out will help in cutting down the spread, along with the warmer Spring/Summer months.

But, I'm usually far too optimistic for my own good.

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Arent you the guy that's a 911 truther?

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butthole666 posted...

the mitigation efforts are working and need to continue. The whole point is to get the wave to stagger instead of slamming our medical infrastructure all at once.

No one here is saying they're not working. I'm pointing out that Italy is a poorer, less developed nation than the U.S. with an older population and higher smoking rate.

Hell, I support all the drastic measures being taken to control it here. But that's my point. They are working. And as a result, the U.S. isn't going to fall apart no matter how much people try to pretend it resembles Italy.

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I predicted fewer than 200 deaths before St. Patrick's Day. It seems poor consolation to accurately predict less than 200 dead on Tuesday when we have 218 dead on Thursday.

Even so, this outbreak is only unprecedented in that so much has changed since the last pandemic of its kind. We didn't close Disney World during the Spanish flu because there was no Disney World. They had Coney Island, which remained open, and they had annual parades which were allowed to continue. Today, we're shutting everything down to prevent a repeat.

We are using a century's worth of advancements and our knowledge of the past to combat this thing. And I remain optimistic on that front.

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Because we haven't reached the point where we've surpassed our hospitals capacity to treat it, but you know that.

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These things go on a parabolic curve sort of shape. Look at China, then Italy, and realize we're maybe a couple or three weeks behind Italy.
UK is about to get fucked, probably next week.

LostForest posted...

I think it's funny when people keep saying U.S. is going down the same path as Italy, as if they're even remotely comparable, culturally/societally lol.

Well, we don't kiss everyone we meet

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LostForest posted...

I think it's funny when people keep saying U.S. is going down the same path as Italy, as if they're even remotely comparable, culturally/societally lol.

'Murrcans hear "don't do thing" and are all "I'm totally fucking doing thing!".

butthole666 posted...

We have fewer icu beds per 1000 people, guy

Ding ding ding

Also we'll have at least 100,000 confirmed cases with at least 1000 dead by next Friday.

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Like China and Italy, death rate will go parabolic worldwide. Its not a matter of if but when. We are only in the beginning stages.

Bad_Mojo posted...

Well, we don't kiss everyone we meet

No but we all meet at Walmart.

Started like that in the UK too, was 1 last week and a big deal was made of it, it's 150 now. There were 0 cases in my area a few days ago, now there's 300, and that's only confirmed cases, feck knows how many have it and haven't been tested or shown signs yet.

Take into account we're a pretty small island, closed off from Europe. America is massive and has shedloads of people flying in from all over the world constantly - or did anyway, Trump was too late closing it all down.

It'll be over 1,000 in America by next week then, who knows after that. Depending on which expert report you listen to, it could get really serious really quickly, especially if one of the cases is someone you care about, that's when shit really hits the fan and people will lose their blas attitude sharp.

DiztruxionUk posted...

Started like that in the UK too, was 1 last week and a big deal was made of it, it's 150 now. There were 0 cases in my area a few days ago, now there's 300, and that's only confirmed cases, feck knows how many have it and haven't been tested or shown signs yet.

Take into account we're a pretty small island, closed off from Europe. America is massive and has shedloads of people flying in from all over the world constantly - or did anyway, Trump was too late closing it all down.

It'll be over 1,000 in America by next week then, who knows after that. Depending on which expert report you listen to, it could get really serious really quickly, especially if one of the cases is someone you care about, that's when shit really hits the fan and people will lose their blas attitude sharp.

Except people keep acting like everyone who isn't joining in on the panic is having a "blase attitude" or not following the protocols and instructions set forth by government and health officials.

You can take precautions without projecting mass hysteria.

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cmiller4642 posted...

Ignore it now and you'll see our hospitals devastated by mid April

De Evolution posted...

And no pointing this out doesn't mean I think we should all be outside mingling with each other.

Can people not fucking read?

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dave_is_slick posted...

Can people not fucking read?

Nope.

There's no nuance or reading comprehension.

Simply extreme assumptions to be made.

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https://i.imgur.com/6SrQL5v.png

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Malcrasternus posted...

https://i.imgur.com/6SrQL5v.png

The hell is going on in New York?

That first tweet is all you need to read to know how serious it is. It was made a week ago when Italy had 827 deaths, they will pass 4000 the day after tomorrow.

CanCanSam posted...

That first tweet is all you need to read to know how serious it is. It was made a week ago when Italy had 827 deaths, they will pass 4000 the day after tomorrow.

Jesus

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CanCanSam posted...

That first tweet is all you need to read to know how serious it is. It was made a week ago when Italy had 827 deaths, they will pass 4000 the day after tomorrow.

Assuming there isn't a spike tomorrow.

If America is 2 weeks behind Italy..... Holy crap. The current 200-some deaths is only the beginning of an exponentially larger number.


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You are correct, we should let it spread until it becomes the worst pandemic, then we can start trying to try to put people in quarantine and trying to find a cure.

sarcasm

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Foppe posted...

You are correct, we should let it spread until it becomes the worst pandemic, then we can start trying to try to put people in quarantine and trying to find a cure.

sarcasm

Where the fuck did I say we should let it spread?

Stop being a goddamn moron.

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According to worldometers only around 100 have recovered in us

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Let's not jump the gun just yet. That's where Trump and his mediocre excuse of an administration went wrong.
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We're just beginning to see the numbers rise, it's about to really explode. I've been watching the increases in Illinois since the first confirmed case exactly 8 weeks ago. For about the first month it very slowly rose through the single digits. It took about a month and three weeks to get over 100.

In the last three days it has gone from just over 100 to about 150, then to 288, then to 422 yesterday. There were more new confirmed cases in each of the last two days than there were in the first seven weeks combined.

Tenlaar posted...

We're just beginning to see the numbers rise, it's about to really explode. I've been watching the increases in Illinois since the first confirmed case exactly 8 weeks ago. For about the first month it very slowly rose through the single digits. It took about a month and three weeks to get over 100.

In the last three days it has gone from just over 100 to about 150, then to 288, then to 422 yesterday. There were more new confirmed cases in each of the last two days than there were in the first seven weeks combined.

Dude, relax

There's a very good chance this virus has already had a significant run through the population unnoticed

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Spring Break in Florida is probably going to push those numbers along.

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Dude, relax

There's a very good chance this virus has already had a significant run through the population unnoticed

Do you actually think that you saying this somehow counteracts the rapidly increasing numbers across the board, or...?

LostForest posted...

Is this going based on percentage or individual cases? Cuz Italy has a population that's almost one sixth the size of the U.S., so...

Why would you look at percentage? The diseases doesn't just spread randomly throughout the population, it spreads from person to person.

008Zulu posted...

Spring Break in Florida is probably going to push those numbers along.

Bastards

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- January 19: 100 cases
- January 24: 1,000 cases
- January 28: 5,000 cases
- February 12: 50,000 cases
- March 6: 100,000 cases
- March 14: 150,000 cases
- March 18: 218,000 cases
- March 19: 240,000 cases

Nice to see most people failed basic maths and fail to understand exponential growth.

Remember back in 2009 when H1N1 killed at minimum 150,000 people (but much more than that) in the span of 7 months yet there was not much panic? That was before the news media became the morally bankrupt whore it is today.

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Yadoken posted...

Remember back in 2009 when H1N1 killed at minimum 150,000 people (but much more than that) in the span of 7 months yet there was not much panic? That was before the news media became the morally bankrupt whore it is today.

And one of those that failed maths, Corona has infected 149k, killed 10060 and in 181 countries, in the same time frame Swine flu had 8421 infections less than 100 dead and was in 34 countries.

Swine flu went on to kill anywhere upto 600k and infect 1.6 billion people, do the maths.

We're talking about the same thing buddy. Good one. But also you just further proving my point. All this panic is just the news media.

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This is such a bad topic
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And media would have reacted the same if the swine flu had had the same infection and killing rate.

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Yadoken posted...

We're talking about the same thing buddy. Good one. But also you just further proving my point. All this panic is just the news media.

No you are just proving my point most people do not understand high R0 and exponential growth.

Swine Flu=8421 case 56 dead
Corona=249442 cases 10060 dead

Thats in the exact same amount of time, how hard is maths that you can't see the difference?

There's now 8 countries with more deaths and cases than swine Flu had in total at this point.

Edit:OHH if you want another comparison the US had 5 Swine Flu death by this point in the pandemic, Corona is at 217.

Note to everyone that TC is often modded for downplaying/outright denying the facts of the Holocaust

if things continue as projected without intervention, the (stateside) death toll will pass 10,000 by mid-april

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March 1st US was at 89 cases. Just over three weeks later the US is over 13,000.

Shit isnt a game. Personally Im not scared of this virus actually harming me. I am worried about it spreading to family or friends with weak immune systems. We have to do whatever it takes to slow the spread.

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https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1240673894949888000?s=21

Washington Post says worst case scenario is 1.1 MILLION deaths in the US. Not saying theyre right but if they are holy shit.

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