Current Events > Pelosi just shot down universal stimulus checks

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ssj3vegeta_
03/18/20 10:23:37 PM
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NeoShadowhen
03/18/20 10:24:20 PM
#102:


De Evolution posted...
Liberals will still defend this

I dont think so. Democrats who arent liberals, certainly.
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Yazarogi
03/18/20 10:26:03 PM
#103:


NeoShadowhen posted...
I dont think so. Democrats who arent liberals, certainly.

if its true Ill rightfully say fuck Pelosi, tho she has been the DNC fall guy for quite awhile.

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CruelBuffalo
03/18/20 10:26:05 PM
#104:


CruelBuffalo posted...
sidenote;

If the speaker asks for more money for lower income people than a blanket amount that would go to all...who is to the left of who?

I genuinely do want an answer for this though
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HiddenRoar
03/18/20 10:27:17 PM
#105:


So from what I understand,
The most recently passed stimulus bill was approved today, the second bill, which contains provisions such as more funding for testing, paid sick leave for families*, tax credits for small business with less than 500 employees, unemployment insurance, etc.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mcconnell-urges-colleagues-support-coronavirus-economic-relief-bill/story?id=69664853

The $1000 a month rallying cry is something folks like Romney, Yang, (harvard) economists, and others are trying to put/push into the third stimulus bill, which will also pump billions into the airlines, small business loans, and other "distressed" sectors of the economy, among other things.

A.k.a. You're not getting your free Trumpbucks yet.

Haven't searched about TC's OP yet, but it may be true if the whole "Pelosi doesn't want rich people to get a check" sounds about right.
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Tired-Insomniac
03/18/20 10:27:34 PM
#106:


Squall28 posted...
I mean...she's not wrong. It should only be for people who need it.

The people who don't necessarily need it will likely spend it on stuff, boosting the economy

Isn't that the secondary purpose of these checks? First keep your shit afloat then go buy some more shit

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ManaYuka
03/18/20 10:27:53 PM
#107:


It should be easy to fix this-

0 - 50K - $2000- majority of people
50K- 100K - $1500- former middle class. Only like 25 percent of people now.
100K -150K - $1000- something like 10 percent of people.
100K and above- nothing. Top 10 percent get nothing.

There, means tested. Easy for people to understand and the Democrats can act like the rich get nothing when really they just want to knock down trumps plan cause politics.

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Smackems
03/18/20 10:28:30 PM
#108:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Pelosi fucking sucks.


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645AR
03/18/20 10:30:03 PM
#109:


This move might have cost Biden the election. Bernie's and Yang's supporters are definitely going to vote Trump now, albeit grudgingly.
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TheDurinator
03/18/20 10:30:12 PM
#110:


Pelosi determined to deliver the finishing blow to the democratic party forever.
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Resaix
03/18/20 10:30:43 PM
#111:


645AR posted...
Bernie's and Yang's supporters are definitely going to vote Trump now, albeit grudgingly.
No they aren't. What a stupid post
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GrandConjuraton
03/18/20 10:31:33 PM
#112:


So is this real, or fake news?

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RIPVyseCity
03/18/20 10:33:52 PM
#113:


So since I made 97k last year I won't get anything? That's messed up.
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1NfamousACE_2
03/18/20 10:34:45 PM
#114:


ManaYuka posted...
It should be easy to fix this-

0 - 50K - $2000- majority of people
50K- 100K - $1500- former middle class. Only like 25 percent of people now.
100K -150K - $1000- something like 10 percent of people.
100K and above- nothing. Top 10 percent get nothing.

There, means tested. Easy for people to understand and the Democrats can act like the rich get nothing when really they just want to knock down trumps plan cause politics.

Very easy

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TomNook20
03/18/20 10:35:00 PM
#115:


ManaYuka posted...
It should be easy to fix this-

0 - 50K - $2000- majority of people
50K- 100K - $1500- former middle class. Only like 25 percent of people now.
100K -150K - $1000- something like 10 percent of people.
100K and above- nothing. Top 10 percent get nothing.

There, means tested. Easy for people to understand and the Democrats can act like the rich get nothing when really they just want to knock down trumps plan cause politics.
So basically fuck people on the coasts.

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ElatedVenusaur
03/18/20 10:35:09 PM
#116:


ManaYuka posted...
It should be easy to fix this-

0 - 50K - $2000- majority of people
50K- 100K - $1500- former middle class. Only like 25 percent of people now.
100K -150K - $1000- something like 10 percent of people.
100K and above- nothing. Top 10 percent get nothing.

There, means tested. Easy for people to understand and the Democrats can act like the rich get nothing when really they just want to knock down trumps plan cause politics.
The problem is that means-testing takes time, since you have to determine eligibility. Inevitably, there are mistakes and snafus(not to mention people who are getting less are liable to dislike the program). Making it universal makes it easier to do quickly.

In any case, this must be a part of a wider range of actions meant to stabilize the economy and keep everyone afloat.
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Kazi1212
03/18/20 10:37:14 PM
#117:


Showing her true colors, we know who she really works for now. Trump was in it for the people, Pelosi for the banks and corporations. Trump 2020!

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HiddenRoar
03/18/20 10:37:51 PM
#118:


GrandConjuraton posted...
So is this real, or fake news?

It's Pelosi' own PR guy that's tweeting this, so real.
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Cheater87
03/18/20 10:38:17 PM
#119:


Greedy corporate stooge!

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Resaix
03/18/20 10:38:51 PM
#120:


Kazi1212 posted...
Trump was in it for the people
Imagine being this delusional
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Skye Reynolds
03/18/20 10:39:54 PM
#121:


Thanks, Pelosi, for giving us four more years of Trump. You sure did your party a big favor. :/

I wouldn't be surprised if the idea was designed to be shot down. I can't realistically see the government giving out that kinda money (no matter who's in charge), but the person who says it's not happening is an immediate bad guy along with his or her respective party.

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itachi15243
03/18/20 10:42:06 PM
#122:


Skye Reynolds posted...
Thanks, Pelosi, for giving us four more years of Trump. You sure did your party a big favor. :/

I wouldn't be surprised if the idea was designed to be shot down. I can't realistically see the government giving out that kinda money (no matter who's in charge), but the person who says it's not happening is an immediate bad guy along with his or her respective party.


Apparently the government has done something similar in the 80 iirc

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Hop103
03/18/20 10:46:53 PM
#123:


How to Kill Your Party 101

Democrats are done, due to Pelosi's stupidity.
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HiddenRoar
03/18/20 10:47:49 PM
#124:


We gave free money in the form of tax rebates/cuts in '01 and '08

Practically a growing number of people on and off the Hill on both sides are for giving everyone a $1000 (or more) check.
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Resaix
03/18/20 10:48:10 PM
#125:


Hop103 posted...
How to Kill Your Party 101

Democrats are done, due to Pelosi's stupidity.
Trump's fucked up more times than anyone can count but the Republican party isn't dead
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Arcanine2009
03/18/20 10:50:57 PM
#126:


She doesn't want to give it to everyone i.e. people that are wealthy/well off on their own and don't need it.

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Resaix
03/18/20 10:52:57 PM
#127:


@Awesome

https://twitter.com/maxberger/status/1240458828107386881?s=20

This sounds a LOT better than a thousand bucks

Thoughts?
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marc55
03/18/20 10:56:44 PM
#128:


Arcanine2009 posted...
She doesn't want to give it to everyone i.e. people that are wealthy/well off on their own and don't need it.

.........then why so many people are angry about it doesnt make sense

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Squall28
03/18/20 10:59:05 PM
#129:


marc55 posted...
.........then why so many people are angry about it doesnt make sense

because people are greedy

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CommunismFTW
03/18/20 11:13:22 PM
#130:


That's absolutely a no on the 1k, boys. Let that sink in. Trump/Pence 2020.

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meralonne
03/18/20 11:15:22 PM
#131:


CommunismFTW posted...
That's absolutely a no on the 1k, boys. Let that sink in. Trump/Pence 2020.


Resaix posted...
@Awesome

https://twitter.com/maxberger/status/1240458828107386881?s=20

This sounds a LOT better than a thousand bucks

Thoughts?

let that sink in


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nuggetg
03/18/20 11:23:25 PM
#132:


We don't need stimulus checks yet. This still might end quickly!

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dave_is_slick
03/18/20 11:24:55 PM
#133:


marc55 posted...
.........then why so many people are angry about it doesnt make sense
Better that than NOBODY getting it. Makes all the sense in the world.

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Bleuets
03/18/20 11:25:05 PM
#134:


ManaYuka posted...
It should be easy to fix this-

0 - 50K - $2000- majority of people
50K- 100K - $1500- former middle class. Only like 25 percent of people now.
100K -150K - $1000- something like 10 percent of people.
100K and above- nothing. Top 10 percent get nothing.

There, means tested. Easy for people to understand and the Democrats can act like the rich get nothing when really they just want to knock down trumps plan cause politics.

you know whats even easier? Just give everyone the fucking money! This is not a math problem my dude, just give everyone the money thats the easiest way. Youre line of thought is making things more difficult then they have to be.
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IronWolf87
03/18/20 11:25:20 PM
#135:


Resaix posted...
@Awesome

https://twitter.com/maxberger/status/1240458828107386881?s=20

This sounds a LOT better than a thousand bucks

Thoughts?

That's really good. It probably doesn't have a chance in hell of passing, but yeah that's good.
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Axiom
03/18/20 11:26:47 PM
#136:


I'm lmao at the responses in this topic. You guys really jumped the gun
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Sariana21
03/18/20 11:27:48 PM
#137:


ManaYuka posted...
It should be easy to fix this-

0 - 50K - $2000- majority of people
50K- 100K - $1500- former middle class. Only like 25 percent of people now.
100K -150K - $1000- something like 10 percent of people.
100K and above- nothing. Top 10 percent get nothing.

There, means tested. Easy for people to understand and the Democrats can act like the rich get nothing when really they just want to knock down trumps plan cause politics.
You haven't accounted for cost of living.

Also, you seem to have a typo on the last line.

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SSMajinVegeta2
03/18/20 11:53:28 PM
#139:


So did McConnell block it or Nancy?

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BreezyExcursion
03/18/20 11:54:53 PM
#140:


give me donald dollars

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Resaix
03/18/20 11:54:55 PM
#141:


SSMajinVegeta2 posted...
So did McConnell block it or Nancy?
No one blocked it at all yet
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emagdnE
03/18/20 11:56:39 PM
#142:


MarqueeSeries posted...
I've never seen a political party hand over an election in such a brazen fashion before

Oof

Yes. But that's from nominating "electable" Joe Biden.

This is a drop in a bucket all things considered.
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Solid Snake07
03/18/20 11:59:34 PM
#143:


Washington had better get their shit together real fucking fast or we're going to have a very serious problem on our hands.

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RickyTheBAWSE
03/19/20 12:06:48 AM
#145:


the usuals got egg on their faces again? stop sharing opinions already, damn lol.
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BakonBitz
03/19/20 12:07:54 AM
#146:


Resaix posted...
@Awesome

https://twitter.com/maxberger/status/1240458828107386881?s=20

This sounds a LOT better than a thousand bucks

Thoughts?
Sounds great. Probably not gonna get passed as is but this would be welcome.

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HiddenRoar
03/19/20 12:12:28 AM
#147:


Axiom posted...
I'm lmao at the responses in this topic. You guys really jumped the gun


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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
the usuals got egg on their faces again? stop sharing opinions already, damn lol.

Three people that don't actually know what's going on.

It's clear that Pelosi doesn't want to give millionaires/billionaires extra money, this was made clear when her PR guy tweeted such.

Resaix' post are proposed provisions by Waters, not Pelosi, and it would give everyone, including millionaires and billionaires, $2000, something that Pelosi opposes.

So the only thing you three proved is not having a god damn clue as to what's going on.
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645AR
03/19/20 12:46:53 AM
#148:


Resaix posted...

No they aren't. What a stupid post


4 years of no progressive politics > 8 years of no progressive politics

We like to think the long game instead of being short term attention span about it.
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The Eko
03/19/20 1:06:26 AM
#149:


Couldn't they give everyone $, and when everyone files their taxes next year, if they earned more than $, then they pay back the $, ?

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SauI_Goodman
03/19/20 1:09:11 AM
#150:


who the fuck is pellosi to say no to trump lmao

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