Board 8 > The Simpsons Mafia Topic 10 - Egad! My Mafia Game is Ruined!

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HanOfTheNekos
03/15/20 1:22:01 PM
#51:


Lea as Scum doesn't have a hide. Ergo, she can't hide behind one of the Masons, as part of the plan. Proves us both Town. Forces less mislynch options.

Who else did she say she'd hide behind? And wasnt the LAST thing she said that she was going to hide behind one of us?

(I actually dont remember that for sure)

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IfGodCouldDie
03/15/20 1:22:29 PM
#52:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Except *she* has to lie and say that you're town other wise she would have wound up dead

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Hbthebattle
03/15/20 1:24:30 PM
#54:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Why me? Why not vote IGCD?

What's the difference?
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HanOfTheNekos
03/15/20 1:25:48 PM
#55:


Thing is, there could've been a scan or a hide sent our way to confirm us. But there wasn't.

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HanOfTheNekos
03/15/20 1:26:30 PM
#56:


Hbthebattle posted...
What's the difference?

I can give an obvious answer, but I want to see you actually explain why me, first.

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HanOfTheNekos
03/15/20 1:29:13 PM
#58:


Sounds like your scan is fake, then, if you didn't actually think about the best way to use it.

But you also didn't answer my question, Lea.

Why me? Why not IGCD?

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Crescent-Moon
03/15/20 1:37:04 PM
#60:


So um.. I'm ok, my work is canceled for the rest of the day (I'm going in tomorrow unless otherwise told), and I went through a major personality shift in the process to numb myself and I don't know if I can go back to my hyper level of focus here. It certainly won't be any time soon.

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HanOfTheNekos
03/15/20 1:40:16 PM
#61:


Leanansidhe posted...
You're slimier.

But if you think we're both Scum, it shouldn't matter which one you lynch, right?

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Hbthebattle
03/15/20 1:44:59 PM
#62:


HanOfTheNekos posted...


But if you think we're both Scum, it shouldn't matter which one you lynch, right?

You're right, it doesn't matter.
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HanOfTheNekos
03/15/20 1:45:49 PM
#64:


Except if there are only two Scum remaining, then a mislynch doesn't end the game.

In which case, it would make more sense to lynch the Mason who hasn't posted nearly as much, right?


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HanOfTheNekos
03/15/20 1:52:03 PM
#66:


Yes it does?

Because when one of us flips, the other is confirmed.

If there's only 2 Scum left, the game doesn't end, and then you'd rather have the person who has been around more, and will be around more.

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Hbthebattle
03/15/20 1:57:06 PM
#67:


##Unvote
##Vote: IGCD

See, it doesn't matter.
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HanOfTheNekos
03/15/20 2:10:32 PM
#69:


Hbthebattle posted...
##Unvote
##Vote: IGCD

See, it doesn't matter.

I notice you didnt respond to me pointing out why your argument on believing Lea was incorrect. Would you like me to quote it for you?

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Hbthebattle
03/15/20 2:15:10 PM
#70:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Lea as Scum doesn't have a hide. Ergo, she can't hide behind one of the Masons, as part of the plan. Proves us both Town. Forces less mislynch options.

Who else did she say she'd hide behind? And wasnt the LAST thing she said that she was going to hide behind one of us?

(I actually dont remember that for sure)

If there's three scum left, it legitimately doesn't matter who the mislynch is, so this argument only makes sense if there's two scum.
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HanOfTheNekos
03/15/20 2:18:45 PM
#71:


No, it doesn't. Try reading it again.

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htaeD
03/15/20 2:19:31 PM
#72:


That just means your own argument is invalid too, HB.

If it doesnt matter who the mislynch is, then it doesnt matter which player or players Lea 'townconfirms'.

Confirming Han and IGCD at once would come at the cost of leaving Sbell/KBM/you ambivalent.
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htaeD
03/15/20 2:28:31 PM
#73:


I just checked and the last things Lea said, in order:

First she wanted to target one of the masons. But people said they were buying them both (she claims)
Then she was wondering about checking to see if Sbell or KBM were a godfather.
Then Crescent comes up with the HB/Lea plan, and while Lea wanted HB to scan someone else but her and she trusted HB already, she did say she was willing to agree with a consensus since she knew she was not trusted.

So technically you could say she decided to target HB, but at the time it sounded open enough to go in any direction.
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Hbthebattle
03/15/20 2:34:37 PM
#74:


htaeD posted...
That just means your own argument is invalid too, HB.

If it doesnt matter who the mislynch is, then it doesnt matter which player or players Lea 'townconfirms'.

Confirming Han and IGCD at once would come at the cost of leaving Sbell/KBM/you ambivalent.

I'm the far easier lynch.
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HanOfTheNekos
03/15/20 2:42:27 PM
#75:


Hbthebattle posted...
I'm the far easier lynch.

After the way Crescent hounded me yesterday, I would not agree with this.

I mean, I even pointed out another way where your lack of being RB'd made sense today.

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HanOfTheNekos
03/15/20 2:52:44 PM
#78:


oh, okay

##Vote: Lea

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Hbthebattle
03/15/20 2:55:30 PM
#79:


Lea, if theres three scum, we cant afford a single mislynch. We cant afford defeatism here.
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HanOfTheNekos
03/15/20 2:56:26 PM
#80:


pretty sure she's just claiming Scum there, Hb?

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Hbthebattle
03/15/20 2:57:02 PM
#81:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
pretty sure she's just claiming Scum there, Hb?

Lynch me and confirm HB
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IfGodCouldDie
03/15/20 3:01:47 PM
#82:


Hbthebattle posted...
Lynch me and confirm HB
Lynching her confirms you in either, game is over and we lose, she flips scum and you're confirmed scum with her or she flips town and the game isnt over and we can lynch one of the godfather candidates.

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htaeD
03/15/20 3:06:36 PM
#83:


You know whats surprising to me?

How my name doesnt get added to any of the calculations so far.
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HanOfTheNekos
03/15/20 3:08:05 PM
#85:


Leanansidhe posted...
HB can't be town if I'm town.

Nobody has said this.

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IfGodCouldDie
03/15/20 3:08:21 PM
#86:


Leanansidhe posted...
HB can't be town if I'm town. I am town. No one will listen to anything I say, so I might as well die
I thought you scanned him?

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Hbthebattle
03/15/20 3:08:38 PM
#87:


IfGodCouldDie posted...

she flips scum and you're confirmed scum with her

This wouldn't happen

IfGodCouldDie posted...

she flips town and the game isnt over and we can lynch one of the godfather candidates.

If we lynch Lea and she flips town we should autolynch the masons
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HanOfTheNekos
03/15/20 3:10:09 PM
#88:


Hbthebattle posted...
This wouldn't happen

If we lynch Lea and she flips town we should autolynch the masons

Technically, lynching a Mason only confirms the other.

Lynching Lea, if she is Town, confirms you and all your scans.


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htaeD
03/15/20 3:10:23 PM
#89:


I dont think IGCD would ever suggest that, HB
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Hbthebattle
03/15/20 3:11:27 PM
#90:


htaeD posted...
I dont think IGCD would ever suggest that, HB

Im well aware
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HanOfTheNekos
03/15/20 3:13:07 PM
#91:


FTR, fake-claiming Neighbors D1 is really stupid as Scum, because as soon as one of you is proved to be a liar, the other is as well

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htaeD
03/15/20 3:15:26 PM
#92:


Eh, masons would have the same risk.

Also I have to ask, Han.
If you were worried about dying, why not claim masons and play vicariously through IGCD in case you did die?
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Hbthebattle
03/15/20 3:18:51 PM
#93:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
FTR, fake-claiming Neighbors D1 is really stupid as Scum, because as soon as one of you is proved to be a liar, the other is as well

That could easily be a WIFOM play, though.
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htaeD
03/15/20 3:22:09 PM
#95:


Regardless, Han is correct.

A 3man scumteam must have either HB/Lea or Han/IGCD on it.
(hell it could be Lea/Han and IGCD for all I know)

Even if you were to add me to the mix, (which I naturally wont), that doesnt change this fact.
And if we are to assume a 2man scumteam remains, then they seem way too weak.
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HanOfTheNekos
03/15/20 3:23:12 PM
#96:


htaeD posted...
Eh, masons would have the same risk.

Also I have to ask, Han.
If you were worried about dying, why not claim masons and play vicariously through IGCD in case you did die?

Claiming Neighbors makes me less likely to die, still.

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IfGodCouldDie
03/15/20 3:24:47 PM
#98:


Hbthebattle posted...
If we lynch Lea and she flips town we should autolynch the masons
That doesnt work.

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HanOfTheNekos
03/15/20 3:24:57 PM
#99:


Leanansidhe posted...
I would agree, except that your insistence on making this all about set up meta despite how bad an idea it is makes it extremely suspicious. Let's not pretend scum have never claimed neighbours - oops, I mean masons, before. Have you analyzed anyone's behaviour outside of roles at all this game? I'd expect more from super genius totally going to be shot N1 confirmed Han.

Yes, I have analyzed behavior. I have made reads, and I have gone back on reads.

If I were to ignore roles ENTIRELY, you'd have been lynched by now. Hb would've been lynched Day 1.

You can try to insult me all you want, but your anger very clearly reads as Scum who got two modkills and is going to lose anyway and just wants to get it over with.

Probably a two-man Scumteam as well, I'd imagine.

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IfGodCouldDie
03/15/20 3:26:00 PM
#100:


##Unvote
##Vote: Lea


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