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WilliamPorygon 03/05/20 1:39:48 PM #1:	I'm watching replays from the Mega Man 11 leaderboards and it's ridiculous, like I've been playing it for almost two weeks and still half the time it takes me 5 seconds to switch weapons or use a gear because I keep forgetting which button does what and then I still activate the wrong damn thing. Maybe I'm just getting too old for this shit. :( --- Dolphins are people too! https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1404-cetacea-cove <cite>WilliamPorygon posted [p:935272003] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>I'm watching replays from the Mega Man 11 leaderboards and it's ridiculous, like I've been playing it for almost two weeks and still half the time it takes me 5 seconds to switch weapons or use a gear because I keep forgetting which button does what and then I still activate the wrong damn thing. Maybe I'm just getting too old for this shit. :( </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 03/05/20 1:40:33 PM #2:	Repetition --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:935272034] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>Repetition </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 03/05/20 1:40:39 PM #3:	Practice until muscle memory sets in. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:935272039] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>Practice until muscle memory sets in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pojr 03/05/20 1:41:45 PM #4:	I used to speed run back in 2007, even had one run get accepted on speed demos archive, but runs have gotten so much better now than they used to be. They're so well optimized now, you have to be a really good gamer to have a shot at any world records. I personally am not hardcore enough to do that anymore lol. --- pojr I summon it. You spell it. <cite>pojr posted [p:935272095] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>I used to speed run back in 2007, even had one run get accepted on speed demos archive, but runs have gotten so much better now than they used to be. They're so well optimized now, you have to be a really good gamer to have a shot at any world records. I personally am not hardcore enough to do that anymore lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nacen 03/05/20 1:41:48 PM #5:	It's literally all they do. --- About:Blank <cite>Nacen posted [p:935272099] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>It's literally all they do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nevershine 03/05/20 1:41:58 PM #6:	playing over and over again to nail underlying game mechanics. --- "There are no men like me. There's only me."-Jaime Lannister <cite>nevershine posted [p:935272106] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>playing over and over again to nail underlying game mechanics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sunhawk 03/05/20 1:43:23 PM #7:	I've done some great speedruns, and although a lot of factors contribute to being a good speedrunner, IMHO, it's mostly about memory. You know, remembering how to do a puzzle, or where an item is. The more times you speedrun a game, the stronger your memory becomes. --- It has been 0 days since something interesting happened. Thrill me, chill me, fulfil me. <cite>Sunhawk posted [p:935272153] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>I've done some great speedruns, and although a lot of factors contribute to being a good speedrunner, IMHO, it's mostly about memory. You know, remembering how to do a puzzle, or where an item is. The more times you speedrun a game, the stronger your memory becomes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/05/20 1:44:27 PM #8:	Nacen posted... It's literally all they do. This People will spend 10 hours a day every day for months playing a game over and over to shave off half a second based solely on RNG its insane --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:935272193] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>Nacen posted...</cite> <quote>It's literally all they do. </quote> This People will spend 10 hours a day every day for months playing a game over and over to shave off half a second based solely on RNG its insane</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pojr 03/05/20 1:47:35 PM #10:	UnfairRepresent posted... This People will spend 10 hours a day every day for months playing a game over and over to shave off half a second based solely on RNG its insane You sure there aren't speedrunners that have a life outside of speedruns? Cuz I totally didn't in 2007 <_<, but maybe others do --- pojr I summon it. You spell it. <cite>pojr posted [p:935272316] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>This People will spend 10 hours a day every day for months playing a game over and over to shave off half a second based solely on RNG its insane</quote>You sure there aren't speedrunners that have a life outside of speedruns? Cuz I totally didn't in 2007 <_<, but maybe others do </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/05/20 1:49:18 PM #11:	pojr posted... You sure there aren't speedrunners that have a life outside of speedruns? Cuz I totally didn't in 2007 <_<, but maybe others do I'm sure plenty do but they run as a hobby and dont have records --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:935272384] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>pojr posted...</cite> <quote> You sure there aren't speedrunners that have a life outside of speedruns? Cuz I totally didn't in 2007 <_<, but maybe others do </quote> I'm sure plenty do but they run as a hobby and dont have records</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
malenz 03/05/20 1:50:45 PM #12:	probably helps to be youthful as well --- Then by that logic, real men are pixies. <cite>malenz posted [p:935272449] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>probably helps to be youthful as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulGrave 03/05/20 1:51:40 PM #13:	I once got 18th place in predator mission in Arkham Asylum. I checked a few years ago and I was somewhere in the thousands. --- You enjoy teaching high schoolers, and I'll enjoy creating my crappy manga. Let's see where we both are in a year. TheDoorMouse Update https://imgur.com/vz0c9xf <cite>ViewtifulGrave posted [p:935272489] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>I once got 18th place in predator mission in Arkham Asylum. I checked a few years ago and I was somewhere in the thousands. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deku_Link 03/05/20 2:14:54 PM #14:	LightHawKnight posted... Practice until muscle memory sets in. This pretty much. As much as I like watching speedruns, I could never have the patience to learn to speedrun my favorite games myself. --- Favorite game series: Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Pls let this happen for Nintendo Switch: https://imgur.com/VzUDsEL <cite>Deku_Link posted [p:935273359] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>LightHawKnight posted... </cite> <quote>Practice until muscle memory sets in.</quote>This pretty much. As much as I like watching speedruns, I could never have the patience to learn to speedrun my favorite games myself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/05/20 2:20:48 PM #15:	ViewtifulGrave posted... I once got 18th place in predator mission in Arkham Asylum. I checked a few years ago and I was somewhere in the thousands. I was ranked #1 on a Mirrors Edge time trial level once When I came back years later I was literally in the bottom half --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:935273571] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>ViewtifulGrave posted...</cite> <quote>I once got 18th place in predator mission in Arkham Asylum. I checked a few years ago and I was somewhere in the thousands. </quote> I was ranked #1 on a Mirrors Edge time trial level once When I came back years later I was literally in the bottom half</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM 03/05/20 2:21:08 PM #16:	having no life must help i reckon... <cite>ZevLoveDOOM posted [p:935273589] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>having no life must help i reckon... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 03/05/20 2:23:34 PM #17:	They cheat mostly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool-assisted_speedrun --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:935273700] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>They cheat mostly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool-assisted_speedrun </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
007Ganondorf 03/05/20 2:23:54 PM #18:	ViewtifulGrave posted... I once got 18th place in predator mission in Arkham Asylum. I checked a few years ago and I was somewhere in the thousands. Yeah, it's pretty crazy how much people must play/practice to get as good as they are. About a month after Banjo-Kazooie came out on XBLA my run was good for 9th place. I checked a couple days ago and I'm at 83 now... --- Good day Bye for now! <cite>007Ganondorf posted [p:935273719] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>ViewtifulGrave posted... </cite> <quote>I once got 18th place in predator mission in Arkham Asylum. I checked a few years ago and I was somewhere in the thousands.</quote> Yeah, it's pretty crazy how much people must play/practice to get as good as they are. About a month after Banjo-Kazooie came out on XBLA my run was good for 9th place. I checked a couple days ago and I'm at 83 now... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 03/05/20 2:25:56 PM #19:	I Like Toast posted... They cheat mostly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool-assisted_speedrun Live speedrunning streams are far larger community than tassers. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:935273773] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>They cheat mostly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool-assisted_speedrun</quote> Live speedrunning streams are far larger community than tassers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rikiaz 03/05/20 2:31:16 PM #20:	I Like Toast posted... They cheat mostly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool-assisted_speedrun Um no, TAS are videos showing either very interesting or entertaining things or are the theoretical best possible time. Regular speedruns are completely separate, but routers might look to TAS for ideas on different routes. And anyone that tries to pass off a TAS as a regular speedrun generally gets banned from that community for cheating but TAS are not themselves cheating, because they are separate things. --- From the depths, the thing they called Worm King did rise. Nirn itself did scream in the Mages' and Necromancers' war. <cite>Rikiaz posted [p:935273981] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>They cheat mostly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool-assisted_speedrun</quote>Um no, TAS are videos showing either very interesting or entertaining things or are the theoretical best possible time. Regular speedruns are completely separate, but routers might look to TAS for ideas on different routes. And anyone that tries to pass off a TAS as a regular speedrun generally gets banned from that community for cheating but TAS are not themselves cheating, because they are separate things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pojr 03/05/20 4:50:52 PM #21:	I Like Toast posted... They cheat mostly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool-assisted_speedrun it's not cheating if you say it's a tas, it only is if a tas is passed as a real time speedrun --- pojr I summon it. You spell it. <cite>pojr posted [p:935279844] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>They cheat mostly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool-assisted_speedrun</quote>it's not cheating if you say it's a tas, it only is if a tas is passed as a real time speedrun </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ohnoitschris 03/05/20 4:57:23 PM #22:	Minimizing latency also helps big time no matter what anyone says, even when it's "unnoticeable", it'll fuck you over in the tiniest little ways. I Like Toast posted... They cheat mostly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool-assisted_speedrun TASes are literally just scripted runs through a game, they're moreso programmed than they are played. They get down to even tiny details like figuring out how the game's RNG works, so certain actions are only done on very particular frames to get perfect outcomes. So like, in JRPGs, they can avoid as many random battles as possible, and always get critical hits when they do have to fight. --- https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1488-free-games <cite>ohnoitschris posted [p:935280172] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>Minimizing latency also helps big time no matter what anyone says, even when it's "unnoticeable", it'll fuck you over in the tiniest little ways. I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>They cheat mostly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool-assisted_speedrun</quote> TASes are literally just scripted runs through a game, they're moreso programmed than they are played. They get down to even tiny details like figuring out how the game's RNG works, so certain actions are only done on very particular frames to get perfect outcomes. So like, in JRPGs, they can avoid as many random battles as possible, and always get critical hits when they do have to fight. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alkaloid 03/05/20 5:03:14 PM #24:	Like any other skill, they gain mastery by putting in ten thousand+ hours of focused practice with consistent feedback (the feedback in this case is a timer and discord) --- Alkaloid: It's just water in a cup. <cite>Alkaloid posted [p:935280447] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>Like any other skill, they gain mastery by putting in ten thousand+ hours of focused practice with consistent feedback (the feedback in this case is a timer and discord) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 03/05/20 5:05:24 PM #25:	mobilebloechel posted... Someone post the video i just saw it recently for the first time and thought it was hilarious xd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b56N17d4WnM --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg https://imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:935280539] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>mobilebloechel posted... </cite> <quote>Someone post the video</quote>i just saw it recently for the first time and thought it was hilarious xd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b56N17d4WnM </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Airhammy 03/05/20 5:05:56 PM #27:	mobilebloechel posted... Someone post the video MM11 - Any% No Out of Bounds World Record https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r65D4nYGTyk --- http://air-hammer.deviantart.com/ <cite>Airhammy posted [p:935280564] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>mobilebloechel posted... </cite> <quote>Someone post the video</quote> MM11 - Any% No Out of Bounds World Record https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r65D4nYGTyk </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ViewtifulGrave 03/06/20 5:18:19 AM #30:	I seen a guy speedrun Crazy Gadget in SA2. Probably one the most insane things Ive seen in speedrunning. --- You enjoy teaching high schoolers, and I'll enjoy creating my crappy manga. Let's see where we both are in a year. TheDoorMouse Update https://imgur.com/vz0c9xf <cite>ViewtifulGrave posted [p:935303378] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>I seen a guy speedrun Crazy Gadget in SA2. Probably one the most insane things Ive seen in speedrunning. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EffectAndCause 03/06/20 5:20:39 AM #31:	No job, no life, no friends, no other hobbies. --- https://imgur.com/wMshiEN <cite>EffectAndCause posted [p:935303408] in How the he... [t:78451984]...</cite> <quote>No job, no life, no friends, no other hobbies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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