Current Events > Why must we "vote blue no matter who"?

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EffectAndCause
03/04/20 12:11:14 PM
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Fuck that. Biden dont represent my interests any more than Trump.

Big deal he doesnt say shitty things on Twitter, means precisely dick in the white house.
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darkprince45
03/04/20 12:11:34 PM
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Because orange man bad

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CyricZ
03/04/20 12:14:10 PM
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You don't have to.

We're asking you to.

You know what's at stake. It's been four years.

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Sackgurl
03/04/20 12:14:50 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
Biden dont represent my interests any more than Trump.
is that really true

what are your interests


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PatrickMahomes
03/04/20 12:16:00 PM
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because bipartisan politics told you to

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DarkChozoGhost
03/04/20 12:16:29 PM
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Because literally anyone that is not a literally rapist is better than Trump

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NL
03/04/20 12:16:57 PM
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Because this senile old man has a D next to his name.

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Damn_Underscore
03/04/20 12:17:06 PM
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How does Biden not represent your interests anymore than Trump unless you are an anarchist or something?
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Doe
03/04/20 12:17:18 PM
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Ever heard of the supreme court

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1NfamousACE_2
03/04/20 12:17:23 PM
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Because Mexico didn't pay for the wall

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Turbam
03/04/20 12:17:35 PM
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Assumedly his cabinet wouldn't be as ass backwards

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uwnim
03/04/20 12:17:45 PM
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Biden isnt very good, but hed be far more likely to make decent Supreme Court picks and not be as much of a kleptocrat than Trump.

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Were_Wyrm
03/04/20 12:25:33 PM
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Because
status quo: good
rich staying rich: good
poor treated like people: bad

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V-E-G-Y-
03/04/20 12:28:23 PM
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Nunyobidness
03/04/20 12:28:38 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
Fuck that. Biden dont represent my interests any more than Trump.

Big deal he doesnt say shitty things on Twitter, means precisely dick in the white house.


Yes he does. If you like Bernie or Warren the you must Vote Biden. The supreme court is at stake. Plus numerous other court positions. Biden's picks would be far closer than Trump who is going to choose the most far right activist ideologues he can. Some of Trumps picks are so shitty they have no trial experience. Those are things that will be felt long after Trump is gone and are not easily changed.

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Shablagoo
03/04/20 12:28:48 PM
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Sackgurl posted...
is that really true

what are your interests

Liberation of immigrants from the concentration camps. Equality. Anti-imperialism. Healthcare.

None of that will happen under Biden or Trump.

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philsov
03/04/20 12:29:18 PM
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Supreme Court nominations and veto powers.
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ASithLord7
03/04/20 12:29:25 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Liberation of immigrants from the concentration camps. Equality. Anti-imperialism. Healthcare.

None of that will happen under Biden or Trump.
Who will these be worse under

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uwnim
03/04/20 12:30:07 PM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
Because
status quo: good
rich staying rich: good
poor treated like people: bad
Not sure how voting at all will help with that if it ends up Trump v Biden .
Theres either go with what you think will give you a better chance to try again or try to start a revolution.

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TheGoldenEel
03/04/20 12:30:29 PM
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How about having some fucking empathy for other human beings and vote against the racist whos doing everything he can to stop people of color from getting into our country

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viewmaster_pi
03/04/20 12:31:09 PM
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vote for a cop?

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sneakysnake
03/04/20 12:34:03 PM
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People are tired of voting against someone instead of actually voting for someone they believe in.
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Jabodie
03/04/20 12:35:19 PM
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I'll vote blue at least for social justice causes in the Supreme Court, and hopefully somewhat competent foreign policy (or at least avoiding embarrassment every week). Besides, the makeup of Congress needs to change substantially before true progressive policy can make it through. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm voting for AOC in a 2-3 decades to a Congress that may actually cooperate. But for now, it's time to face reality. Bernie has done a lot of work for progressives of the future and we should take that in stride if he doesn't get the nomination.

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EffectAndCause
03/04/20 12:36:02 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
How about having some fucking empathy for other human beings and vote against the racist whos doing everything he can to stop people of color from getting into our country


If Biden voters felt this way they wouldve voted for Bernie.

Not my fault.
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Sackgurl
03/04/20 12:38:02 PM
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Shablagoo posted...


Liberation of immigrants from the concentration camps. Equality. Anti-imperialism. Healthcare.

None of that will happen under Biden or Trump.

liberation of immigrants from the concentration camps would happen under biden, seeing as under obama the only children separated were those who were at risk of being trafficked, and baseline policy was releasing the immigrants to family members and giving them a court date

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Wetterdew
03/04/20 1:22:41 PM
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I don't particularly like Biden but you have to be crazy to think he's even close to as harmful as Trump.

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malenz
03/04/20 1:25:06 PM
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I dunno, hearing about the Supreme Court possible picks really freaks me out for if Trump wins. I really REALLY don't want it to be 7 - 2 in favor of conservatives.
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EffectAndCause
03/04/20 1:25:59 PM
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Wetterdew posted...
I don't particularly like Biden but you have to be crazy to think he's even close to as harmful as Trump.


Hes as ineffective as Trump.

My life will not change at all with Biden as president. Ill still get a $6,000 bill for anesthesia because the doctor was not a direct employee of the hospital (as if I have any control or say over that) which puts me in crippling debt and forces me to sell my house.
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Zikten
03/04/20 1:26:03 PM
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Fuck Biden but I will still vote for him

I voted for Trump last time and I regret it. He keeps getting worse.
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Malfunction
03/04/20 1:26:22 PM
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If bernie was the nomination I think a lot of self avowed centrists would almost certainly abstain from voting. Or at least continue to undermine him after winning the nomination.

Not that that should necessarily influence you but I think that's definitely how things would go.
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Lost_All_Senses
03/04/20 1:26:24 PM
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CyricZ posted...
You don't have to.

We're asking you to.

This.

The "why do I have to" mentality is a small step away from complete victim mentality. You don't have to do anything, stop making up fake barriers. If you wanted to eat a piece of cake and someone you never met came up to you and told you not to eat the cake, are you gonna eat the cake or go online and cry about not being able to eat cake?

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malenz
03/04/20 1:27:53 PM
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Malfunction posted...
If bernie was the nomination I think a lot of self avowed centrists would almost certainly abstain from voting. Or at least continue to undermine him after winning the nomination.

Not that that should necessarily influence you but I think that's definitely how things would go.

I mean, I don't think that's a reason in and of itself to abstain and not vote for Biden if you care at all about not having Trump as our president, and if you don't, why don't you?
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Smashingpmkns
03/04/20 1:31:19 PM
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This "blue no matter who" shit is so dumb. I guess I'll eventually end up voting for this bumbling senile coot but I sure as hell am not putting any energy in rallying behind him or convincing others to vote for him either, and I will be very vocal when he eventually loses.

I do not blame others for not voting for him. Concern troll all you want, we literally have the chance at universal healthcare that could save thousands of lives and everyone who voted for Biden has voted against that.
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TheGoldenEel
03/04/20 2:36:27 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
Hes as ineffective as Trump.

My life will not change at all with Biden as president. Ill still get a $6,000 bill for anesthesia because the doctor was not a direct employee of the hospital (as if I have any control or say over that) which puts me in crippling debt and forces me to sell my house.
If neither one will change your life personally how about voting for the one that will make life better for brown people across the country

you know, because theyre all human beings

or is life just about me me me

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Ivynn
03/04/20 2:38:06 PM
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Dems: Vote blue no matter who!

People: We want Bernie!

Dems: No, not like that

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philsov
03/04/20 2:40:18 PM
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Ivynn posted...
People: We want Bernie!


Do we, though? I mean, have you SEEN the super Tuesday results?
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EffectAndCause
03/04/20 2:49:01 PM
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or is life just about me me me

Free health care for all is literally as far from me me me as it is humanly possible to be.
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hockeybub89
03/04/20 2:51:40 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
If neither one will change your life personally how about voting for the one that will make life better for brown people across the country

you know, because theyre all human beings

or is life just about me me me
Why would anyone vote for either establishment if they care about everyone?

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lightwarrior78
03/04/20 2:51:47 PM
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Because I don't want another reason to go "these hyper childish progressives gave us Trump" in November.


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EvenSpoonier
03/04/20 2:52:29 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
Fuck that. Biden dont represent my interests any more than Trump.

Big deal he doesnt say shitty things on Twitter, means precisely dick in the white house.
Fair enough, I suppose.

But what will you say to the kids in the cages? "I'm terribly sorry about this concentration camp business, but I just couldn't bring myself to vote for someone who wasn't ideologically pure enough"? If you don't find that either of the candidates represents you very well, then perhaps now might be a good time to get over yourself.

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NL
03/04/20 2:54:05 PM
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EvenSpoonier posted...
But what will you say to the kids in the cages?

What would you say to the VP of the administration that started putting them there.

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hockeybub89
03/04/20 2:55:49 PM
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EvenSpoonier posted...
Fair enough, I suppose.

But what will you say to the kids in the cages? "I'm terribly sorry about this concentration camp business, but I just couldn't bring myself to vote for someone who wasn't ideologically pure enough"? If you don't find that either of the candidates represents you very well, then perhaps now might be a good time to get over yourself.
What about the dying children not in cages? "Think of the children" doesn't work well when it can apply to multiple issues.

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EffectAndCause
03/04/20 2:56:45 PM
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I supported a candidate who wanted to take the kids out of cages AND give free health care to everyone else, they didnt.

So now its up to me to make sure their shitty choice gets in there?

We dont give a fuck about what you want, but please help us get what WE want.
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WafflehouseJK
03/04/20 2:57:44 PM
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mrgoatthief posted...
I'll be voting blue, but I really fucking hate that it's Biden.


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EverDownward
03/04/20 2:58:32 PM
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This reeks of the same mentality that was pervasive behind Hillary getting the nomination in 2016. Even though nobody liked her, they still backed her because "blue wave, she's a Dem." Feels like the voterbase is languishing in "battered housewife syndrome." They'll begrudgingly accept the nom they desperately wish wasn't.

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