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Doom_Art
03/04/20 12:53:27 PM
#203:


Cheater87 posted...
The DNC hate progressives and everything they stand for.
DNC didn't force black people to vote for Biden

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Zikten
03/04/20 12:53:39 PM
#204:


Warren is a snake and a fraud if she endorses Biden
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Sad_Face
03/04/20 12:55:12 PM
#205:


foreverzero212 posted...
Standing in line for 8 hours to vote only to be turned away. Why are the lines that long at colleges if no one showed up? Voter suppression is fine when the democrats do it I guess.
I've heard this sentiment echoed quite a bit. How is it that people aren't laser focusing on this? This is the same problem that happened last election, where DNC meddling sabotaged Bernie's campaign and favored Clinton. We had literal proof from the wiki leaks emails. And yet people are ignoring this and the coordinated effort to consolidate votes to Biden, and yet are pinning the blame solely on Bernie for his poorer results.

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Zikten
03/04/20 12:57:38 PM
#207:


shockthemonkey posted...
I guess the new generation of progressives is going to have to take over the Democratic Party.
Or form a new party
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Smashingpmkns
03/04/20 1:06:00 PM
#208:


Still a lot of delegates to be taken and a debate in a few weeks. If Warren drops and Gabbard doesn't show, a Bernie v Biden debate will overwhelmingly go well for Bernie.
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Zikten
03/04/20 1:11:09 PM
#209:


They need to let the entire nation vote at the same time. Separating states by weeks or months is dumb in the modern era. Early states decide the fate of the country and late states are told to get fucked
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Soul_Devour
03/04/20 1:12:40 PM
#211:


My whole takeaway from this is that the Democratic Party is way too fractured to win anything right now. One side is trying to force the other into accepting their way of things and all it's doing is stirring resentment to the party. It's like they learned absolutely nothing from 2016. I wouldn't be surprised if the House went back to the Republicans and the Senate got a supermajority should the democratic primary end in a contested convention.

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MFBKBass5
03/04/20 1:23:02 PM
#213:


shockthemonkey posted...
I guess the new generation of progressives is going to have to take over the Democratic Party.


Pretty much. The AOC wave will hit the Democratic Party hard once all these boomers die off.

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Doom_Art
03/04/20 1:26:58 PM
#214:


MFBKBass5 posted...
Pretty much. The AOC wave will hit the Democratic Party hard once all these boomers die off.
The comparison I've been using for years is Goldwater and the conservative takeover of the Republican Party

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Maeiv
03/04/20 1:34:55 PM
#215:


I will say its a little fishy that a large number of voters changed their minds 48 hours before Super Tuesday to Biden, also throw in the fact that Biden won a bunch of states he did not even campaign in

Though this is not a rabbit hole I want to dive into

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Balrog0
03/04/20 1:38:17 PM
#216:


how can you imagine a win is possible at this point? Biden spanked Bernie in plenty of states where Bernie campaigned hard and Biden barely competed

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NinjaWarrior455
03/04/20 1:51:12 PM
#218:


Maeiv posted...
I will say its a little fishy that a large number of voters changed their minds 48 hours before Super Tuesday to Biden, also throw in the fact that Biden won a bunch of states he did not even campaign in

Though this is not a rabbit hole I want to dive into
Most voters were undecided going into Tuesday so when two moderate candidates dropped out and supported the one moderate everyone has heard of before, it's not hard to see why people voted for him.

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Balrog0
03/04/20 1:53:26 PM
#220:


NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Most voters were undecided going into Tuesday so when two moderate candidates dropped out and supported the one moderate everyone has heard of before, it's not hard to see why people voted for him.

it also clears the way for more endorsements, which he also got a shitload of

he got 28 endorsements in the 48 hours before super tuesday, which is more than he got for the entirety of february

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brestugo
03/04/20 1:54:09 PM
#221:


Balrog0 posted...
how can you imagine a win is possible at this point? Biden spanked Bernie in plenty of states where Bernie campaigned hard and Biden barely competed
Biden never even set foot in MA or MN this election cycle.

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butthole666
03/04/20 1:54:13 PM
#222:


shockthemonkey posted...
Itll be interesting to see the delegate breakdowns, especially with Sanders winning California, but the fact that Biden won states he didnt acknowledge (fucking Massachusetts?!?) doesnt bode well at all.
MA was actually a lot closer than reports saying he won would lead you to believe, so Im really interested in how other states looked and what the delegate allocations look like

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brestugo
03/04/20 1:56:56 PM
#223:


Godnorgosh posted...
My understanding is that the Sanders campaign is experimenting with more aggressive messaging in the remaining states.

Jesus. Bernie Bros will go fucking nuts. People will be pining for the feelgood days of Bloomberg ads.

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Alpha218
03/04/20 1:57:32 PM
#224:


Can't you guys think of something better to attack him with than "Bernie bros"

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Mecha Sonic
03/04/20 1:57:34 PM
#225:


the youngest boomers are only 56

us average life expectancy is 78

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Maeiv
03/04/20 1:58:36 PM
#226:


Not surprisingly, BernieOrBust2020 and riggedprimary is trending now.

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The Trent
03/04/20 1:59:02 PM
#227:


Maeiv posted...
Not surprisingly, BernieOrBust2020 and riggedprimary is trending now.

the NEETs have woken up to start their day?

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Balrog0
03/04/20 1:59:21 PM
#228:


Maeiv posted...
Not surprisingly, BernieOrBust2020 and riggedprimary is trending now.

pretty funny to see it go from "the person with the most delegates should win" to "this whole thing is rigged" literally overnight

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brestugo
03/04/20 1:59:45 PM
#229:


butthole666 posted...
MA was actually a lot closer than reports saying he won would lead you to believe, so Im really interested in how other states looked and what the delegate allocations look like
Sanders lost by nearly 100,000 votes. That's a clear win for Biden.

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brestugo
03/04/20 2:04:47 PM
#231:


Maeiv posted...
Not surprisingly, BernieOrBust2020 and riggedprimary is trending now.
There's actually a bizarre conspiracy some Bernie Bros are floating today: The DNC engaged in voter suppression to keep Sanders turnout low.

I'm serious.

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ASithLord7
03/04/20 2:05:25 PM
#232:


Godnorgosh posted...
Yeah, that would be nice. Everyone votes within the same timeframe, no drawn-out media favoritism, no strategically timing dropouts to support the moderate, no Joementum bullshit. Just one vote.
Yes please.

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scar the 1
03/04/20 2:15:07 PM
#233:


brestugo posted...
There's actually a bizarre conspiracy some Bernie Bros are floating today: The DNC engaged in voter suppression to keep Sanders turnout low.

I'm serious.
I don't think that's necessarily bizarre. We've seen in this (or the last one?) reports from several places where they had to stand in line for hours and hours and then the voting offices closed. So I wouldn't say it's entirely bizarre even if I'm not sure I buy into it personally

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brestugo
03/04/20 2:16:13 PM
#234:


scar the 1 posted...
I don't think that's necessarily bizarre. We've seen in this (or the last one?) reports from several places where they had to stand in line for hours and hours and then the voting offices closed. So I wouldn't say it's entirely bizarre even if I'm not sure I buy into it personally
Dude. States run the elections.

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Zikten
03/04/20 2:17:00 PM
#235:


The voting places should not close. That is bullshit. I bet biden told them to shut down
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Krojen
03/04/20 2:18:03 PM
#236:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Still a lot of delegates to be taken and a debate in a few weeks. If Warren drops and Gabbard doesn't show, a Bernie v Biden debate will overwhelmingly go well for Bernie.
I'm afraid it's too late for that. The media is going full court press to claim Biden as the nominee. So if Bernie has a great debate that makes Joe look bad the entire narrative will be big meanie Bernie damaging Joe to help Trump.

Warren dropping out to endorse Bernie and go nuclear on Joe is what would turn the tides but it'll never happen. She still isn't even shaking Bernie's hand and would sooner endorse her bankruptcy bill nemesis.

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scar the 1
03/04/20 2:22:53 PM
#237:


brestugo posted...
Dude. States run the elections.
Is it really beyond your wildest imagination that the DNC could have some measure of influence over state Democrats?

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CruelBuffalo
03/04/20 2:23:28 PM
#238:


Is Shaun King actually affiliated with the Sanders campaign? Hes getting dunked on again, hard, so I would hope not.

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Smashingpmkns
03/04/20 2:23:45 PM
#239:


Krojen posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Still a lot of delegates to be taken and a debate in a few weeks. If Warren drops and Gabbard doesn't show, a Bernie v Biden debate will overwhelmingly go well for Bernie.
I'm afraid it's too late for that. The media is going full court press to claim Biden as the nominee. So if Bernie has a great debate that makes Joe look bad the entire narrative will be big meanie Bernie damaging Joe to help Trump.

Warren dropping out to endorse Bernie and go nuclear on Joe is what would turn the tides but it'll never happen. She still isn't even shaking Bernie's hand and would sooner endorse her bankruptcy bill nemesis.

Not giving up at all, but certainly doomering out today.


It's not over yet friend. The media has always been a losing battle with Bernie. This definitely doesn't make it any easier but it's not impossible.
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CruelBuffalo
03/04/20 2:25:03 PM
#242:


scar the 1 posted...
Is it really beyond your wildest imagination that the DNC could have some measure of influence over state Democrats?

You think the DNC would try to stop last minute votes who were going for Biden? yikes
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Balrog0
03/04/20 2:26:01 PM
#244:


I think his point is that the state government (not state democratic party) runs most primary elections

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CruelBuffalo
03/04/20 2:27:07 PM
#245:


shockthemonkey posted...
lmao is Shaun King legally required to misreport something every single day?

I wish hed just go away. While AOC ruffles feathers of sexist conservatives, at least she isnt making up bullshit so I appreciate her. King just makes everything worse lol
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Smashingpmkns
03/04/20 2:27:09 PM
#246:


There definitely was obvious voter suppression and that should be addressed eventually. No one should have to wait 7 hours in line to vote, or 7 hours to get denied your right to vote, especially in a democratic primary.
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DaveTheUseless
03/04/20 2:27:50 PM
#247:


I thought California would get Sanders up to at least 100 delegates over Biden. Doesn't look like it will.

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Smashingpmkns
03/04/20 2:28:11 PM
#248:


Conflict posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...


It's not over yet friend. The media has always been a losing battle with Bernie. This definitely doesn't make it any easier but it's not impossible.


He lost Texas. It is absolutely over for Bernie lol


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TheGoldenEel
03/04/20 2:29:44 PM
#249:


Conflict posted...
He lost Texas. It is absolutely over for Bernie lol
Biden got 81 delegates from Texas and Bernie got 72

EDIT: so far

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TheGoldenEel
03/04/20 2:34:22 PM
#250:


For reference google has Biden at 566 total delegates and Bernie at 501

its still a close race. Warren just needs to drop out and Biden needs to continue embarrassing himself in debates

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Eldriken
03/04/20 2:34:26 PM
#251:


Well done to Biden huh?
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Zikten
03/04/20 2:37:45 PM
#252:


Eldriken posted...
Well done to Biden huh?
the thing is that he barely broke a sweat. he didn't really do anything. he's just saying "I was Obama's VP lol" over and over. and coasting on that. people are sheep
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