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ThyCorndog
02/29/20 8:41:58 PM
#101:


to be fair to that guy (and I don't know why I'm doing it), indians being caucasian doesn't mean indians are white. only americans (wrongly so) think all "caucasians" are white

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ThyCorndog
02/29/20 8:42:16 PM
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Vita_Aeterna posted...
Historically being white wasn't actually about being a Caucasoid European or not but more about being part of the Germanic or Anglo-Celtic Protestant lineage.
this is true

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Vita_Aeterna
02/29/20 8:55:24 PM
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Just to give people an idea of what the various words mean:

Today "white" refers to anyone whose ancestry hails predominantly from Europe AND are categorically part of the (pseudo-scientific) "Caucasoid" race. Regardless of their "subrace" or religion.

"Caucasian" is simply a stupid as fuck term for "white." People today try to be politically correct or "factual" when using this term when actually all of this is complete malarkey and is steeped entirely in RACIST pseudo-scientific theories of a bygone era. "Caucasian" refers to the people of the Caucasus mountain region. Racial anthropologists of the late nineteenth and early twentieth century assumed that the so-called "white" race came from this region.

Whitness can be bent anyway one wants if they want to exclude a people they don't want included in the category of elites. In America, being part of the so-called "Anglo-Saxon" race meant you were part of the elite (usually well educated and wealthy) class of Americans. In order to be considered one, you generally had to be Anglo-Saxon (English) or Anglo-Celtic (Scottish, Scots-Irish) or a Germanic Protestant (German, Dutch) from the Continent or from the Scandinavian Isles. All of these in general had a shared culture, ancestry, shared religious tradition, language roots etc.


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ThyCorndog
02/29/20 8:59:02 PM
#104:


Vita_Aeterna posted...
Just to give people an idea of what the various words mean:

Today "white" refers to anyone whose ancestry hails predominantly from Europe AND are categorically part of the (pseudo-scientific) "Caucasoid" race. Regardless of their "subrace" or religion.

"Caucasian" is simply a stupid as fuck term for "white." People today try to be politically correct or "factual" when using this term when actually all of this is complete malarkey and is steeped entirely in RACIST pseudo-scientific theories of a bygone era. "Caucasian" refers to the people of the Caucasus mountain region. Racial anthropologists of the late nineteenth and early twentieth century assumed that the so-called "white" race came from this region.

Whitness can be bent anyway one wants if they want to exclude a people they don't want included in the category of elites. In America, being part of the so-called "Anglo-Saxon" race meant you were part of the elite (usually well educated and wealthy) class of Americans. In order to be considered one, you generally had to be Anglo-Saxon (English) or Anglo-Celtic (Scottish, Scots-Irish) or a Germanic Protestant (German, Dutch) from the Continent or from the Scandinavian Isles. All of these in general had a shared culture, ancestry, shared religious tradition, language roots etc.
100% lol
you said it better than I could've

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Skye Reynolds
02/29/20 9:00:14 PM
#105:


You're trying to tell me that Mario isn't white?
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Default1234
02/29/20 9:08:33 PM
#106:


Vita_Aeterna posted...
Just to give people an idea of what the various words mean:

Today "white" refers to anyone whose ancestry hails predominantly from Europe AND are categorically part of the (pseudo-scientific) "Caucasoid" race. Regardless of their "subrace" or religion.

"Caucasian" is simply a stupid as fuck term for "white." People today try to be politically correct or "factual" when using this term when actually all of this is complete malarkey and is steeped entirely in RACIST pseudo-scientific theories of a bygone era. "Caucasian" refers to the people of the Caucasus mountain region. Racial anthropologists of the late nineteenth and early twentieth century assumed that the so-called "white" race came from this region.
caucasian or caucasoid is just a term, you can use any other term you want, it doesn't really matter
but there are other differences, the white caucasoids have much higher Neanderthal dna than others, south east asians have varying degrees of denisovan
you will learn these things if you study anthropology
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zado19
02/29/20 10:50:43 PM
#108:


Of course.... lol they are european
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SiO4
03/01/20 12:19:10 AM
#109:


CloneTheHero posted...
no one tell tc about white hispanics. his head might explode


How about Black Irish?!

My friend Taylor is Irish but looks 100% more Italian than me.
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Puglia77
03/01/20 12:40:35 AM
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Coastal_elite
03/01/20 9:55:44 AM
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CloneTheHero posted...
no one tell tc about white hispanics. his head might explode

They're a thing, but the MAGA era has changed things and they're not considered a thing now. Apparently you can look like Elsa from Frozen but if you learn to say "where is the restroom?" in Spanish you suddenly become "the opposite of white" (whatever that is)
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SiO4
03/01/20 4:13:37 PM
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Coastal_elite posted...
Apparently you can look like Elsa from Frozen but if you learn to say "where is the restroom?" in Spanish you suddenly become "the opposite of white" (whatever that is)


LOL did see that coming. Hehe.
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Coastal_elite
03/01/20 4:42:58 PM
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SiO4 posted...
LOL did see that coming. Hehe.

lol
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GS4Life
03/01/20 6:14:10 PM
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Obviously Italians are white but of course they still could be mistaken for a different ethnicity
I remembered that happened to a classmate of mine who's family is a darker skinned Italian than mine, they got kicked out of a restaurant shortly after 9/11 because people thought they might be Muslim

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Coastal_elite
03/01/20 6:31:40 PM
#116:


CloneTheHero posted...
these MAGA types forget spanish is a EUROPEAN language rooted in latin which was widely spoken throughout europe once upon a type. people like tc are too funny and not worth arguing with

true, true
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Coastal_elite
03/01/20 6:33:37 PM
#117:


GS4Life posted...
Obviously Italians are white but of course they still could be mistaken for a different ethnicity
I remembered that happened to a classmate of mine who's family is a darker skinned Italian than mine, they got kicked out of a restaurant shortly after 9/11 because people thought they might be Muslim

The dad of a friend of mine is Italian (like, he actually grew up in Italy). I always thought he was a swell guy, since my friend is a nice guy, and his dad likes me quite a bit.

But my friend dated a black girl and his dad lost his shit. He pretty much went full 1950s on my friend. I couldn't understand it, since italians themselves have gone through this (see bold above), so I thought they'd be different
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SiO4
03/01/20 6:37:25 PM
#118:


Coastal_elite posted...


lol


https://imgur.com/e5JNIdd
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Tyranthraxus
03/01/20 6:41:11 PM
#119:


SiO4 posted...


Why does this even exist

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SiO4
03/01/20 6:42:17 PM
#120:


Tyranthraxus posted...


Why does this even exist


The internet.
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Tyranthraxus
03/01/20 6:42:45 PM
#121:


Coastal_elite posted...
The dad of a friend of mine is Italian (like, he actually grew up in Italy). I always thought he was a swell guy, since my friend is a nice guy, and his dad likes me quite a bit.

But my friend dated a black girl and his dad lost his shit. He pretty much went full 1950s on my friend. I couldn't understand it, since italians themselves have gone through this (see bold above), so I thought they'd be different

https://www.history.com/news/why-hate-groups-went-after-johnny-cash-in-the-1960s

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