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cmiller4642
02/27/20 10:53:46 PM
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I always thought Italians were more closely related to Arabic people than "white white" people.

White= Irish, German, British, Dutch, etc...
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SauI_Goodman
02/27/20 10:54:08 PM
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mainland italians yes sicilian italians no.

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Default1234
02/27/20 10:59:00 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
mainland italians yes sicilian italians no.
what if it's a Sicilian with blonde hair?
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SauI_Goodman
02/27/20 11:02:49 PM
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Default1234 posted...
what if it's a Sicilian with blonde hair?
they can dye their hair any color but the skin is the same

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Default1234
02/27/20 11:04:58 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
they can dye their hair any color but the skin is the same

some can have naturally blonde hair too
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Guide
02/27/20 11:06:01 PM
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White bread is white, Italian bread is baguettaboutit

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Wii_Shaker
02/27/20 11:06:03 PM
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Italians from Italy, no. Italian-Americans, yes.


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SSJGrimReaper
02/27/20 11:07:14 PM
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Looka this wise guy ovah ere

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SiO4
02/27/20 11:08:25 PM
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I'm half Italian and have Blue Eyes, fare Skin, and dirty blond hair.
And that is from the Italian side. My mother who was Scotch and Polish was a brown-eyed Brunett.

What is not White about Italians is the food.
That's as far as I want to go with this one. >_>

Except to say, No Italians aren't WASPs.
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TooLateToGoBack
02/27/20 11:09:36 PM
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Absolutely.
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pfh1001
02/27/20 11:10:12 PM
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Yes, I do.
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kuwab0
02/27/20 11:58:37 PM
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A White person with a tan is still a White person

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StealthRock
02/28/20 4:20:06 PM
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They are now considered white yes

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Romulox28
02/28/20 4:20:52 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
mainland italians yes sicilian italians no.
fuck yea, im considering this my n word pass

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southcoast09
02/28/20 4:22:49 PM
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They are, so yes.
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luigi13579
02/28/20 4:23:03 PM
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Yes, but it's more or less an arbitrary classification tbqh, and has varied depending on the circumstances of the day.
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RebelElite791
02/28/20 4:25:20 PM
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Race is a social construct, but yes Italians are white

weird weird topic

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Politics
02/28/20 4:25:20 PM
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This is like something I'd read on /pol/

That being said Italians weren't considered white in America for a good part of the 20th century. I'm 50% Italian (mainly southern) and while I look pretty Italian I don't think anyone would consider me not to be white.

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SiO4
02/28/20 4:25:24 PM
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I think the point is, yes, Italians are caucasian.
But are the full-on WASP's...No.
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R1masher
02/28/20 4:28:11 PM
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White/non Hispanic

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Romulox28
02/28/20 4:29:02 PM
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i did it, i said the n word

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dj1200
02/28/20 5:02:26 PM
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yes

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Default1234
02/29/20 6:32:12 AM
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Politics posted...
This is like something I'd read on /pol/

That being said Italians weren't considered white in America for a good part of the 20th century. I'm 50% Italian (mainly southern) and while I look pretty Italian I don't think anyone would consider me not to be white.

why people even go on reddit and then bring up their subreddits on this site, especially since you do not like them
i don't get it
this is like a new, dumb, childish, internet meme type thing with people listing subreddits everywhere
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Default1234
02/29/20 6:33:17 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Race is a social construct, but yes Italians are white

weird weird topic

how is race a social construct when there are actual, physical differences between skull shapes and facial features

are there no different breeds of dogs either?
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JE19426
02/29/20 6:57:32 AM
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Default1234 posted...
how is race a social construct when there are actual, physical differences between skull shapes and facial features

Because the different races are very arbitrarily, and inconsistently defined. Furthermore they don't have any major biological impact.
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Default1234
02/29/20 7:05:04 AM
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JE19426 posted...
Because the different races are very arbitrarily, and inconsistently defined. Furthermore they don't have any major biological impact.

I think you should probably do a bit more research into this topic because there are definitely physical and biological differences between different groups of people. It's not even just the difference in facial features and skin tone but also DNA. This is why some studies are released claiming certain races could be more susceptible to certain diseases because they carry those particular genes which could be vulnerable in these situations.

All animals have different breeds/races which are born out of the adaptation to climate and topography through evolution.
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Romes187
02/29/20 7:06:09 AM
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Who cares it doesnt matter do more interesting things with your life than worry about peoples skin color
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JE19426
02/29/20 7:47:53 AM
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Default1234 posted...
I think you should probably do a bit more research into this topic because there are definitely physical and biological differences between different groups of people. It's not even just the difference in facial features and skin tone but also DNA. This is why some studies are released claiming certain races could be more susceptible to certain diseases because they carry those particular genes which could be vulnerable in these situations.

How strange, your post seems to indicate you think I am wrong, but you don't actually contradicts what I said.
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Ilishe
02/29/20 7:53:27 AM
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Italians are definitely 'white'.

My grandfather was Italian and I live very close to Italy.

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Default1234
02/29/20 7:55:38 AM
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JE19426 posted...
How strange, your post seems to indicate you think I am wrong, but you don't actually contradicts what I said.

Your first post was,

JE19426 posted...
Because the different races are very arbitrarily, and inconsistently defined. Furthermore they don't have any major biological impact.

which was in reply to,

Default1234 posted...
how is race a social construct when there are actual, physical differences between skull shapes and facial features

are there no different breeds of dogs either?

you are saying race is a social construct and that isn't true, there are biological, physical, genetic factors for the differences
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JE19426
02/29/20 8:01:05 AM
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Default1234 posted...
you are saying race is a social construct and that isn't true, there are biological, physical, genetic factors for the differences

Except those aren't due to race they are due to genes, as you noted.
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Default1234
02/29/20 8:02:51 AM
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JE19426 posted...
Except those aren't due to race they are due to genes, as you noted.

and different groups of people have different set of genes
how else would DNA/ancestry tests work?

you are making no sense
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JE19426
02/29/20 8:56:24 AM
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Default1234 posted...
and different groups of people have different set of genes

Oh, so when determining race you do DNA tests of people? That's strange I don't recall doing a DNA whenever I get asked my race.
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Mareen
02/29/20 8:59:06 AM
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I mean Arabs are considered white so yeah.

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Coastal_elite
02/29/20 9:01:52 AM
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Look at this guy (who happens to be a leader of a racist, anti-minority movement in italy) and tell me he looks like it to you:

https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/inmfiMvGb6sI/v1/-1x-1.jpg

If he were born in say, Venezuela, same dude, same name, same looks, everyone would be saying he is not white.

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Tyranthraxus
02/29/20 9:02:19 AM
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SiO4 posted...
I think the point is, yes, Italians are caucasian.
But are the full-on WASP's...No.

They're never going to be wasps because the country is predominantly Catholic and that isn't changing in favor of any other religion.

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RebelElite791
02/29/20 9:03:16 AM
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Default1234 posted...
how is race a social construct when there are actual, physical differences between skull shapes and facial features

are there no different breeds of dogs either?
WEW lad. Shut the fuck up. Wow.

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Coastal_elite
02/29/20 9:04:36 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
WEW lad. Shut the fuck up. Wow.

only you can take a good point (it's true, race is a social construct) and then undermine the point because "shut the fuck up" is a terrible way to go about an argument.

I hope you never have to argue that putting bleach on drinking water is a bad idea or we will all die.
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JE19426
02/29/20 9:07:18 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
They're never going to be wasps because the country is predominantly Catholic and that isn't changing in favor of any other religion.

They are also unlikely to become Anglo-Saxon.
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RebelElite791
02/29/20 9:07:43 AM
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Hey ROD, shut the fuck up

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Default1234
02/29/20 9:44:56 AM
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JE19426 posted...
Oh, so when determining race you do DNA tests of people? That's strange I don't recall doing a DNA whenever I get asked my race.

you are making no sense and desperately trying to make excuses to suit your argument that race is a social construct

I suggest you first learn about the difference between skull shapes of different races. If races did not exist then archaeologists wouldn't be able to tell the race of a 2000 year old skeleton, simply by looking at the skull shape.

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JE19426
02/29/20 9:52:19 AM
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Default1234 posted...
you are making no sense and desperately trying to make excuses to suit your argument that race is a social construct

Oh, please. I'm not the one trying to argue race is genetic but we don't need to do DNA tests to determine race.

I suggest you first learn about the difference between skull shapes of different races. If races did not exist then archaeologists wouldn't be able to tell the race of a 2000 year old skeleton, simply by looking at the skull shape.

LMAO. Just LMAO.
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Default1234
02/29/20 9:56:08 AM
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lost argument
reply with "LMAO"

yeah, it's pointless explaining anything to you
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RebelElite791
02/29/20 9:58:02 AM
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Default1234 posted...
you are making no sense and desperately trying to make excuses to suit your argument that race is a social construct

I suggest you first learn about the difference between skull shapes of different races. If races did not exist then archaeologists wouldn't be able to tell the race of a 2000 year old skeleton, simply by looking at the skull shape.
This is literally outdated racist nonsense only used today by white supremacists

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Malfunction
02/29/20 9:58:40 AM
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Default1234 posted...
I suggest you first learn about the difference between skull shapes of different races
Lol amazing
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ThyCorndog
02/29/20 10:00:32 AM
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cmiller4642 posted...
I always thought Italians were more closely related to Arabic people than "white white" people.
Well, they're not. Genetically every european ethnicity is closely related to every other european ethnicity. That includes spanish, italian, portuguese, greek, all eastern european and balkan people groups

This is what people mean by race is a social construct btw. You're determining race by appearance, even though a sicilian and irishman are closely related

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thronedfire2
02/29/20 10:02:01 AM
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Who knows

Ive known a few Italian guys who everyone thought were middle eastern because of how dark their skin was

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gikos
02/29/20 10:02:14 AM
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Default1234 posted...
I suggest you first learn about the difference between skull shapes of different races. If races did not exist then archaeologists wouldn't be able to tell the race of a 2000 year old skeleton, simply by looking at the skull shape.
yikes good god there are still legit people still using a freaking century old racist myth

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Default1234
02/29/20 10:02:35 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
This is literally outdated racist nonsense only used today by white supremacists

I'm not white but I'm not blind or dumb either. Now, you will probably label anthropology and genetics as "racist" as well.
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