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Skye Reynolds
02/27/20 10:21:26 PM
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Okay, so he was outed as gay after a psychic read his mind and told him he was gay -- after years of having exclusively female love interests. It's clumsy, it's hamfisted, it's retroactive.

So what?

He's easily the most recognizable gay superhero. How many people have honestly heard of Midnighter and Apollo? Almost everyone has seen Iceman in some form of media or another. X-Men, Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends, Family Guy. Even if you've skipped all of those things, "Iceman" sounds like a hero that would exist. He sounds like a character who should have a following.

Plus, ice is a cool power. Sub-Zero > Scorpion. And the dude would be marketable. You could have Iceman toys right next to Spider-Man and Black Panther. Oh, and if you're wondering about the antagonist of the movie, my first pick would be Pyro. Or maybe they could have Red Skull. It'd be both a nod to the Red Skull episode of Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends and a way of trolling homophobes by saying that anyone against being gay is a homophobic Na... agent of Hydra.

The way I look at it, the movie could give him a boyfriend and a female friend who functions as a stand-in for the Anna Paquin version of Rogue. They have chemistry together, but only as friends. This sort of softly de-canonizes the X-Men movies by acknowledging the relationship without acknowledging attraction.

And if the movie is good enough, maybe Disney/Sony could see their way through to having Spider-Man, Iceman, and Firestar in a movie together. Just sayin'.
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Irony
02/27/20 10:24:03 PM
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He's boring. Rather have a Frozone solo movie

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Leviathan1
02/27/20 10:26:09 PM
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Iceman is great. Always has been. I have no problem with the dude being gay.

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Skye Reynolds
02/27/20 10:26:18 PM
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Irony posted...
He's boring.

So were most Marvel heroes before the MCU.
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Wewillrocku
02/27/20 10:32:38 PM
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oh, iceman is gay? i never heard that. i wonder if he's more well known than silver surfer.

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
02/27/20 10:35:33 PM
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I honestly enjoyed All-new X-Men
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Zack_Attackv1
02/27/20 10:38:11 PM
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nevershine
02/27/20 10:39:56 PM
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Pyro is one of my favorite characters in the X-men movie franchise and I think itd be awesome if they did an iceman movie with him as the antagonist.

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Jiek_Fafn
02/27/20 10:45:41 PM
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I just want him to make constant ice related puns. Is that too much to ask?

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Irony
02/27/20 10:46:44 PM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
I just want him to make constant ice related puns. Is that too much to ask?
Just throw Mr Freeze Arnie over his voice

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Jagr_68
02/27/20 10:48:51 PM
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Chicken
02/27/20 10:50:45 PM
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Skye Reynolds
02/27/20 10:51:38 PM
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Oh, Ice, Ice, Baby has gotta be on the soundtrack.
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Zanzenburger
02/27/20 11:11:29 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Oh, Ice, Ice, Baby has gotta be on the soundtrack.
I can already imagine the trailer for the movie using that song.

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Dark_SilverX
02/27/20 11:18:09 PM
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Iceman and Galactus should have hot sweaty sex together.

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DigitalCamera
02/27/20 11:20:15 PM
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Iceman never gets enough credit, he's an Omega level mutant for crying out loud!

Even in the movies, he made it all the way to the bitter end (well...almost)

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Raikuro
02/27/20 11:20:15 PM
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I love X-Men but not really interested in any solo movies. Would rather have multiple different team movies instead.
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DigitalCamera
02/27/20 11:22:16 PM
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An Iceman/Nightcrawer/Magnito gritty mystery movie where they try to solve the murder of...hmm.....Storm and Juggernaut, both found dead in the basement of the X-Mansion. There's something that can work.

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Guide
02/27/20 11:23:13 PM
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Iceman's cool, but what's the point of a solo movie? He has no white whale to chase, no notable backstory, no archnemesis. He's much more applicable to a long form series.

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EvenSpoonier
02/27/20 11:31:59 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
I think Iceman should get a solo movie.
No, I really think he should get an Iceman movie. Nothing against Solo, but it's just not his thing.

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Kajagogo
02/27/20 11:51:56 PM
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Guide posted...
what's the point of a solo movie? He has no white whale to chase, no notable backstory, no archnemesis.


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Skye Reynolds
02/28/20 12:54:53 AM
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Guide posted...
no archnemesis


Skye Reynolds posted...
Pyro

They don't need a shared history. The simple Fire and Ice motif will work.
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DigitalCamera
02/28/20 1:31:39 AM
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Iceman is like a god next to Pyro, it would be a 3 second fight.

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Darmik
02/28/20 1:33:32 AM
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He'll get a Disney+ series that gets bumped to Hulu

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AsucaHayashi
02/28/20 1:45:10 AM
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i always disliked how sparsely they portrayed his powers in the movies.

the one that got the closest was obv days of future past but even that was only for a few moments.
maybe it costs too much or requires too much effort for them to make compared to frozone which is "only" animation?

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loafy013
02/28/20 1:53:45 AM
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Guide posted...
Iceman's cool, but what's the point of a solo movie? He has no white whale to chase, no notable backstory, no archnemesis. He's much more applicable to a long form series.
Yeah, the only major mystery I remember him having from the comics was after Emma had control of his body for awhile. She was doing things he had no idea his body was capable of doing, and she refused to tell him how she did it.

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The_Ivory_Man
02/28/20 2:22:51 AM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Okay, so he was outed as gay after a psychic read his mind and told him he was gay -- after years of having exclusively female love interests. It's clumsy, it's hamfisted, it's retroactive.

So what?

It's shit.

He was "outed" after talking about how hot a girl was while Jean Grey got jealous since he didn't find her attractive and then sprung that on. It has very wrong undertones, and continuing to push it doesn't look good.

And if you do want to count retconned sexuality Wonder Woman is a far more well known character who has been said to be bi now.

Why not actually push one of the many good gay characters more to the forefront, you mention Midnighter in a "haha nobody cares" but if bloodthirsty monster hunter Batman who demolishes his opponents got a film appearance, people would love that character.

Why not use the good characters instead of a shitty retcon?


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Skye Reynolds
02/28/20 9:33:07 AM
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DigitalCamera posted...
Iceman is like a god next to Pyro, it would be a 3 second fight.

Disney needs to learn how to power up and power down characters according to the needs of the plot. We have an ice hero. We need a fire villain. Give Pyro a boost or find a different fire-themed villain.

Or, seriously, default to Red Skull.
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Kajagogo
02/28/20 1:40:55 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
They don't need a shared history. The simple Fire and Ice motif will work.

It's cliched, and they already had a fight in a movie. To do it again, and to make it the main plot point would be annoying and redundant.

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Skye Reynolds
02/28/20 8:59:44 PM
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Kajagogo posted...
It's cliched, and they already had a fight in a movie. To do it again, and to make it the main plot point would be annoying and redundant.

But this is Marvel's version.

They get to decide what power levels the characters are. And it would be new interpretations of the characters. We weren't denied a conflict between the Tom Hardy Bane and Christian Bale Batman just because George Clooney Batman and Jeep Swinson Bane already had a movie fight.

And the main plot point doesn't have to be "I'm fire and I hate you for being ice." It could be incidental that these two are opposites.
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archedsoul
02/28/20 9:01:20 PM
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Fuck no. Iceman is boring as fuck alone.

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Kajagogo
02/28/20 9:03:24 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
George Clooney Batman and Jeep Swinson Bane already had a movie fight.



I remember Bane fighting Robin and Batgirl, but I'm having trouble remembering when he fought Batman in that movie.

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Skye Reynolds
02/28/20 9:06:47 PM
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Kajagogo posted...
I remember Bane fighting Robin and Batgirl, but I'm having trouble remembering when he fought Batman in that movie.

It was a brief fight which happened mid-film.

Bane knocked Robin into a vat of green goop. Batman hit Bane. Bane hit Batman with a pipe. Batman disarmed Bane of the pipe. Batman ducked a punch and dumped Bane into the vat of chemicals. Then Robin (with gooey chemical-drenched costume) threw a hissy-fit at Batman for upstaging him.

I might be getting a detail or two wrong, but that was the gist of it.
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MabusIncarnate
02/28/20 9:12:39 PM
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So real talk, say his partner isn't an ice mutant of any form, is there high risk of frostbite during sex?

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